India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

Indian’s were told back then that their nuclear programme would be compromised by this deal, so why are they complaining now?

India stance threatens US nuclear deal

The historic civil nuclear deal between the US and India is running into serious difficulties over New Delhi’s insistence that the Bush administration rewrite elements of the law enacted by Congress last year.** US State Department officials say that India’s negotiating stance risks unravelling the deal**, which gives India unprecedented access to nuclear fuel without requiring it to sign up to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. The agreement was enacted by large margins on Capitol Hill in December and marked a dramatic breakthrough following a history of often tense relations between the two countries. “We are disappointed with the pace and seriousness of the civil nuclear negotiations with India,” Nicholas Burns, US undersecretary of state, told the Financial Times. “It is time to accelerate our efforts to achieve a final deal.”
According to people close to the talks, Indian negotiators are contesting a clause in the law that states the US would withdraw civil nuclear fuel supplies and equipment if India breached its unilateral moratorium on nuclear testing. India is also insisting it be given the explicit right to reprocess nuclear fuel - again, in contradiction of the US law.

Observers say India’s tough stance stems in part from the political weakness of Manmohan Singh, whose Congress party has lost recent state elections and whose own position has always been parlous. Mr Singh faces opposition from his coalition government’s allies in the communist bloc of parties and also from leading nuclear scientists. Scientists from India’s Department of Atomic Energy are insistent that India needs to retain the right to test nuclear weapons. A particular concern of the defence establishment is that nuclear co-operation could be suspended if India tested in response to nuclear tests by neighbours such as China and Pakistan. Indian officials say it is important that India, which is termed a “responsible state with advanced nuclear technology” under the July 2005 agreement, receives the same reprocessing rights Washington has granted under strict conditions to the EU, Japan and Switzerland.

Officials in Washington, which believes the Bush administration took great risks with its own non-proliferation “hawks”, have expressed surprise at the inflexibility of India’s stance. They are also frustrated by the fact that India has made little headway negotiating a parallel agreement with the International Atomic Energy Authority, which it had pledged to do. “That the US government would go to such lengths to help India out and that India is now in the position of aggrieved party in the talks is extraordinary,” said Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Henry Stimson Center, a public policy institute in Washington. **“If, as a result, this deal stalls, then the next US administration and the one after that will be very reluctant to extend such help to India.” **However, most people involved in the talks believe that India would eventually agree to a deal if the alternative was nothing at all. They say that the State Department is simply getting used to New Delhi’s inimitable style of negotiating. “We have ultimate optimism that India will understand the importance and benefits that this deal would bring to the Indian energy sector and to India more generally,” said Mr Burns. The nuclear talks between the US and India are being closely monitored by Australia, which is considering whether to meet an Indian request for Australian uranium to boost its power generation capacity. Canberra has set a US-India deal as a prerequisite for any exports.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f7b3815e-ee12-11db-8584-000b5df10621.html

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

Tsk tsk...india put all its eggs in the American basket

Where as Pakistan is going to get a similar type deal from our true friend, China

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

^ China also offered that deal to Hindustan as well.

I always thought, America only offered that deal to Hindustan just to get their backing at the UN against Iran. It has been over a year now since President Bush signed that deal in Hindustan.

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^^ Just wondering, why do u refer to India has Hindustan?

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

Qaid-e-Azam, Muhammed Ali Jinnah prefered that name.

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^ He also preferred tailored suits and alcohol, do you?

If he preferred using Hindustan, did he also use refer to Pakistan as Muslimstan? After all, he is the one who wanted a state based on religion.

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

then why was your government expressing dissatisfaction over that deal and asking for a similar deal ?.....

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

he also preferred pork

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

Besides, you like goras very much and want to impress them in every sense. That much i am sure. If you were in musharrafs shoes, you would have pakistani nukes under goras control also to make them happy.

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^^ no what I am saying is that India thinks it can get the best of both worlds

Have strong relations with Iran and have strong relations with USA but it like Pakistan has to choose

A reality now sinking in

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

absolutely....we want the best deal. It is an art of negotiation. coz that is how you do business. and that is how even americans or anyone negotiates.

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^^ so which way is india leaning ?

does it want that iran-pakistan gas pipeline and risk jeopardizing the nuclear deal or its gonna go for the nuclear deal and stop the iran-pakistan gas pipeline?

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I dont know......i will stand with the government on whatever decision it takes on this.

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want to know my opinion,

** India already has the capability to build thermo-nuclear device(hydrogen bomb) and has already been tested. Even sub-kiloton nuclear weapons has also already been tested. So, i would like india to agree to this and get the deal done and go ahead with iran-pakistan-india pipeline. If the deal prevents india from producing nuclear weapons, then india should get out of the deal(which is not the case i guess)

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Take out Hindustan for a second and you'll see a China-Pakistan-Iran pipeline coming soon.

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^^ probably....

with Gwadar port being completed, new transportation infrastructure such as rail roads and highways linking Gwadar with China, if India does indeed back out of this deal we could see Iran - Pakistan - China deal....

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If one looks carefully these are the very legitimate rights and every negotiator should agree to these.

I think it's USA, which is acting tough rather than India.

Let's look in these two points, which are being viewed as obstacles by USA ---

(1) Right to reprocess the fuel --

When a developing country like India will invest billions of dollars in procurement and construction of reactors, why she should not get the right to reprocess the Uranium???....for what purpose these friggin reactors will be sold by American Companies to India????

It's clear --America wants India to purchase reactors and utilise only for enrichment of supplied Uranium...while at the same time the spent uranium USA will re-process and sell again???

Is it fair???

Of course USA wants more business by selling/reprocessing Uranium, but why we should not ask for it when we will get new reactors??

I think it's typical arm-twisting by America...India should not bend down...eventhough media accuse us that we are "tough' in negotaition.

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(2) Right to conduct future nuclear tests --

Again it's a legitimate right of any sovereign Nation--and in case of India--she is a country which has responsibility of protecting a Billion plus population and legally we are not a party to CTBT or NPT...and USA knowing all these facts signed a deal with us, so why to cry now??

Look from the specifics of the deal --- when Hyde agreement was passed by American parliament --- it was only mentioned that "Unilateral moratorium on Nuclear tests"

However nothing like this was mentioned in original Hyde agreement "what will happen to Nuclear deal if India conducts further tests in future for example if situation compels her to do so, seeing the greater adversaries like China developing some kind of "smart nuclear bombs" with lower yields and which can be used as tactical weaposn to destroy a military formation"

This situation was very much discussed with Nick Burns by Shyam Saran...and that is why in Original agreement it is NOT mentioned anything that how nuclear deal will be affected if India conducts future Nuke tests.

So why USA is not sticking to original deal....Who is acting tough here?? USA or India??

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^ It’s getting more clear now.

It’s actually USA who is not sticking to March 2 agreement.

‘Rigid Stance of US puts the deal at Risk’

NEW DELHI: The odds are lengthening against the India-US nuclear deal, and under the existing circumstances its prospects appear bleak. As the two countries battle a stalemate in the negotiations on the ‘‘123’’ agreement, it has become clear that the US cannot extend nuclear cooperation to India the way it was promised in the July 18 and March 2 joint statements, and India cannot accept anything less.

A high-level source in the Indian government told TOI, “We cannot accept the deal under these conditions.” As foreign secretary Shiv Shankar Menon embarks on a last-ditch bid to salvage the deal in a week’s time, it is being recognised that the US is in no mood to concede India’s stance on the three critical issues of reprocessing, testing and fuel guarantees. While the Bush administration has not publicly hardened its stance as yet, the increasingly shrill comments by senior US officials in the US media are being seen as reflecting their insistence that India must come around. What started off as individual laments has become a refrain.

At this end, the government is determined not to make any concession beyond what Prime Minister Manmohan Singh laid out in Parliament.

There is a hope that a Manmohan-Bush session can resolve the logjam. But here too, there are limits to what the PM can concede, with Congress sources ruling out any concession over and above the bottom-line sketched by the government in Parliament.

Electoral setbacks, which have given a handle to those who held that the deal would alienate the Muslim vote, combined with the busy poll calendar ahead have, in fact, left the government with little wiggle space.

In Washington, the Bush administration, despite its promises to India, does not have the political capital to work around the restrictive provisions of the Hyde Act passed by the Congress, particularly on reprocessing and testing issues, as well as fuel guarantees.

Re: India stance threatens US nuclear deal - State Dept

Bad for India, good for us... Although, this might have been a good catalyst for Pak govt start bustin their butts to find some parity.