India’s aid offer being considered

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  1. please don’t bring US/China/Santa in this discussion even for comparasion you are talking two opposite ends of the spectrum.

  2. $0.5B or 500 million USD is your gem, your govts. or media?

  3. They say Charity starts at home and then see if the folloing makes sense in the context of this discussion which of course is lot of hot air.

http://www.economist.com/node/16693283

Plenty more if you want to talk logic.

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Not used to seeing such practical common sense in GS. Hamme chakkar aa gayi.

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Are you plain daft or are you a fvckin’ idiot?

  • A Contingency fund has nothing to do with poverty. It has everything to do with the state of the economy, a nation’s forex reserves and how it’s progressing.

  • 500 million USD was offered by India, even though it is a third-world country, to another third-world country during the Kashmir 'quake. Read the link below, the ‘gem’ is from your khazana of a media.

  • Pakistan’s economy is in the craptank. And as a consequence, it’s ability to alleviate poverty also. Plenty of material to go on that if you’d like to.
    Try me.

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I know logic is tough sometime but oh well we are dealing with superior life form.LOLzz
genius $500 million was the total aid PLEDGED by International doners not India, An Indian jumping up and down is nothing out of the ordinary.

http://www.olympus.net/personal/gofamily/quake/famous/2005kashmir.html

An international donors conference pledged over $500 million dollars in aid, but only about 20% has been delivered so far. Meanwhile the UN is running out of funds for their efforts and will have to scale back if more money is not made available.

Pakistan accepted similar aid from India that it provided in 2001 to India fro earth quake in Gujarat.

I am sure your higher IQ knows the meaning offer and pledge.

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@Ruzan

Let's leave this creature to its own misery. It clearly gets its kicks out of laughing at our hungry than taking care of its own .

Mr. Wannabe Amir-ul-Momeen, please wipe the froth off your mouth.
Thank You !

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Can you give me any reference of this?

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Here is a complete list, there is also a list maintained by UN, BUT the coacroaches are jumping up and down on a miss quote or a typo, better ignored.

Another

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9006/indiapakistan.html#p2

Has India offered Pakistan aid since the earthquake?
Yes. Pakistan has accepted twenty-five tons of food, medicine, tents, blankets, and plastic sheets from India, but rejected India’s offer of helicopters to assist with relief efforts. Islamabad has also been cool to the possibility of conducting joint military-rescue operations. Experts say Pakistan has long been suspicious of its neighbor and will not allow Indian military helicopters to fly over its territory. “It’s very telling which one Pakistan accepted,” says Mahnaz Ispahani, adjunct senior fellow for South Asia at the Council on Foreign Relations.

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^Thats true, i was pretty active during those days of earthquake and dont remember any such staggering offer.

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Let me interject here. The Daily Times you are quoting has made a very big factual error there by stating that India offered Pakistan $500 million aid after the Earthquake. It did not, that was the total international pledge at a donor conference, so the Daily Times contention is quite ludicrous.

The Daily Times also claimed that Saudi Arabia had not offered any aid to Pakistan for the floods. It was quickly countered by the Saudi Embassy for this claim, and my thread in Pakistan Affairs proves how wrong they were.

So let’s not keep quoting the same discredited link over and over again as it does not help your argument at all. I challenge you to find any other veifiable link to state that India offered Pakistan $500 milllion aid after the Earthquake?

That said I think Pakistan should graciously accept India’s present offer of $5 million aid for flood relief. It’s a kind gesture.

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I think, as most threads go, the discussion has deviated quite a bit from should India's offer be accepted to where does India stand on it's own impoverished populous. Indeed, India has unimaginable poverty. Poverty is just one of many vexing issues Indians are dealing with.

To add to the deviation from the thesis of this thread, it's also important to consider the trajectory of the Indian economy and poverty rates. Look at Pakistan in the 1970's, Urdu speaking Pakistan. It was a model country. Booming economy. Rapidly expanding infrastructure. Educated masses. Where is Pakistan now, in terms of where it was just forty years ago? Where is India now, in terms of where it was forty years ago? Where is Pakistan likely to be in another decade, and where will India be? Pakistan is in the global media for two reasons, disaster and terrorism.

Back to the point of this thread, India can offer aid. It has a large forex reserve and booming economy. Even now when the Chinese economy is in threat of retreat, India's economy is projected to grow. But, that's besides the point. This is an offer for aid to those people suffering from floods. From Pakistan's own admission, it cannot handle the scope of this disaster.

Either way, this is a no win situation for Pakistan, by its own doing. In 'thwarting Indian designs', the only people affected will be the people already caught in the flood waters. For India, it's a win. If Pakistan accepts, then India is seen by the world as being able to put aside differences in the hour of need. If Pakistan doesn't accept, it's seen as a Pakistan being myopic.

In my more cynical moments, I'm somewhat thankful that the bungling India politicians have Pakistan as an interlocutor. It seems only Rawalpindi and Islamabad can out match the idiocy that emanates from New Delhi.

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why don't they give aid to their millions of slum dwellers. charity starts at home you know.

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i don't know why india's offering aid money either, it could use the money itself and especially when this news is being received with such arrogance, bigotry filled insults. India's own poor need it like some of the prejudiced comments imply. that's up to the indian gov and indian people of course.

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Pakistan is asking (begging) the world to help it.
The poor, the sick, the dying give a hoot to the politics played.
Pakistan should accept this offer.

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LOL. When asked to substantiate their ridiculous claims with a reliable source, both ( or is it just one ?!) dronacharya and ruzaan disappeared!

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Ita a happy thing that Pakistan has announced to accept indian aid. For people in distress, we should forget all our rivalaries. India also promises to send more in the form of food vegetables, medical teams of doctors, medicines, paramedic persons etc. Indian aid is more beneficial as it can be availed readily and food items remain fresh. After the people are saved we shall be getting ample time to play 'war games'.

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When asked to substantiate their ridiculous claims with a reliable source, both ( or is it just one ?!) dronacharya and ruzaan disappeared
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Dude when we offer Indian sources, it is ridiculed as RAW conspiracy
when we offer International sources, it is dubbed as CIA/Mossad conspiracy.
So I never look up these sources and prefer Pakistani sources. Now it seems I can't also rely on them because of crappy standards of journalism practiced in Pakistan.

@yusufkhan
It is sad how little Pakistani politicians value the lives of their citizens. At the time the Aid was offered it was one of the biggest offers. Now it's just part of the noise.

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There isnt any international source of this ridiculous claim of 500million dollar aid offer.

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I am curious to find out if there is even an Indian source, let alone international one which has claimed that India offered 500 million dollars aid to Pakistan after the 2005 Earthquake? The only one source that has been quoted so far (the Daily Times article) has now been thoroughly discredited.

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Read again :

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So I never look up these sources and prefer Pakistani sources. Now it seems I can't also rely on them because of crappy standards of journalism practiced in Pakistan.
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And I thought Daily Times was one of the best English news dailies in Pakistan.I guess I was judging it from Indian standards. I had heard good things about Pakistani print media from Pakistanis..

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^
Thanks, my point proven. :)