Re: India ready to concede Aksai Chin to China?
no agreement signed yet between china and india or between pakistan and india
why are jumping up and down. it is better all disputes are settled with neighbors
so india,china and pakistan can move on.
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That is why, despite whatever linguistic gymnastics and verbal hyperbole are employed by both sides, the Pakistan Govt. has always maintained that it is Kashmiri’s aspirations that should be met. Unfortunately, Indian Govt. does not talk to Kashmiri leaders because it knows the answer it will get, so a dispute that has festered for 50 years could be resolved tomorrow if there was any sincerity to do so from the Indian side.
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this is not like china border dispute where no humans live it involves
minority community in kashmir involves water which kashmir will loose
to punjab. look at baluchi using wood while they are supplying gas to punjab.
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That's not the point. Why is the Aksai Chin dispute which has lasted for decades suddenly about to be resolved. It goes back to willingness to resolve.
We currently have a water dispute, despite there being a soverign treaty. Therefore all the points you raise are not really issues, but chips used in bargaining.
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they are trying to settle without recreating another partition in which both will
be loosers .
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Enhanced inter-penetration between PoK and J&K, owing to the creation of soft borders, will only fuel and intensify demands for complete Anschluss. Indeed once Kashmiris from PoK and J&K fraternise with each other, inter-marry and create new bonds of fellowship unstoppable forces for political union will be unleashed.
Why these concessions to Pakistan?](Why these concessions to Pakistan? - Rediff.com India News)
I like the word Anschluss. 
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you can improve the situation without transfering land.
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lol…Reza, should think twice about your excitement. this is not an indication of India possibly conceding Kashmir to Pakistan…it’s the exact opposite. this Aksai chin situation is exactly what Pakistan is in with India, not the other way around…don’t kid yourself. it’s a matter of resources, power, and opportunity cost. as compared to Pakistan, India totally dominates the first two, and suffers the least of the 3rd. in short…don’t hold your breath.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/02/op.htm#3
Learning from China
By Kuldip Nayar
It is sheer coincidence that the Chinese Premier Wen Jaibao and the Pakistan President Parvez Musharraf are visiting New Delhi within the space of four days this month. One leaves India on April 12 and the other arrives on 17. In a way, both are coming for the same purpose: to firm up the right on the Indian territory they claim.
However, the difference between the two is that Beijing has created congenial conditions for an agreement, establishing trade routes and economic ties with New Delhi.
Islamabad, on the other hand, has yet to offer New Delhi the most favoured nation (MFN) status that India gave Pakistan some years ago. Islamabad concedes it has no other option because of the obligation under the WTO charter but doesn’t know how to cope with hostile domestic lobby.
There is yet another big difference. China froze its claim on the Indian territory so as to move ahead in other fields. Both sides decided not to disturb the status quo, although it tilted towards China. The result is the confidence the two have built to take up the prickly border question.
Pakistan wants even the 56-year-old Line of Control (LoC) to break up like a glass, as Musharraf put it in his latest statement. He does not favour implementing the confidence-building measures (CBMs) until there is a settlement on Kashmir.
The threatening attitude by Islamabad has not undergone any change over the years, unlike that of Beijing which has been cooing peace for some time. It has reportedly offered to exchange the territory it has claimed in Arunachal Pradesh in the west with India’s recognition of China’s possession of Aksai Chin area in the east. New Delhi has come a long way since this is more or less what China had suggested to India as a solution before the 1962 war.
It may sound comical but New Delhi used to treat Beijing in the same manner as Islamabad does New Delhi. India’s stance then was not to hold any dialogue with China until it returned the territory it had occupied in the 1962 war.
New Delhi has taken almost 25 years to face facts: one, what it claims may not tally with the reality on the ground; two, it is in no position to take back the lost territory forcibly.
In adopting this line, the successive governments at the centre have gone even against parliament’s unanimous resolution to recover every inch of Indian land under the Chinese occupation.
Pakistan may have to traverse the same path to come to the conclusion that the LoC cannot be changed nor can Kashmir settled through ultimatums or wars which, in any case, the two countries have fought four times in the last 50 years. The situation does not look like changing even after Pakistan’s acquisition of F-16s which at best can fuel the arms race.
This happened some 35 years ago when America gave Pakistan the Patton tanks. At that time also, Washington had assured New Delhi that Islamabad would not be allowed to use the Patton tanks against India. But it could not do anything when Pakistan introduced them in the 1965 war. F-16s are worse because they are the carriers of nuclear weapons. If hostilities are ruled out, then why F-16s or any other weapons?
Washington knows all that. But it has to sustain its armament factories which have many US Congressmen and senators in their pocket. It is no secret that the Lockheed Martin that produces F-16s was about to slash its workforce because it had no orders. The supply to Pakistan will keep the plant going and if India follows the Pakistan’s example, the Lockheed Martin may need to expand its business.
That the US is willing to give India more sophisticated weapons only complicates the situation, making Pakistan feel more insecure and taking the normalization between New Delhi and Islamabad farther. Dictatorship and democracy mean the same thing to America when its own interests are involved.
This is the reason why ‘China resents the role of the US in the Asia-Pacific region’, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ruefully realized when she was not occupying the position.
Understandably, Beijing does not want Washington to poke its nose all over the world, definitely not in the area that China believes is close to its frontiers. It is also worried over the proposition that America may “build India into a world power to counter China”. This may well explain why Beijing is keen on burying the hatchet with New Delhi even on the boundary question.
Otherwise also, the hostility with India does not pay China which has realized that the democratic system it resented during Jawaharlal Nehru’s days is not expansive in its policies. Nor is it difficult to live with such a country.
In fact, Beijing wants to correct the impression that the communist China cannot live as a friend with the democratic India. The Chinese premier told Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in Laos recently that “the handshake between you and me will catch the attention of the world”. This is also meant to convey the US a message of sorts.
China is, therefore, keen on India and Pakistan finding a peaceful solution to their problems. This, Beijing believes, will keep America out of the region. China is as much talking about ‘a strategic alliance’ with Pakistan as America is talking about India. But what Washington and Beijing really want is to suck India and Pakistan into their scheme of things.
Alas, both New Delhi and Islamabad are still not focused on their region. Why don’t they come together to constitute another centre of power, from Iran to Myanmar. They are culturally akin to each other and command resources and markets which can excel other economic and military arrangements. They are talking about everything except an economic union. Were they to concentrate on forging alliances they would have America at their door, not the vise-versa.
People in India and Pakistan have shown that they want to live in peace. They have discovered that both can hit it off well. They should freeze their territorial disputes, as China has done, till they have built enough confidence in each other to take up even the most intractable problem like Kashmir. New Delhi and Beijing have walked far through the trade way.
This does not mean that Kashmir should be put on the back burner. The process of Kashmiris talking among themselves that began at Kathmandu should gain momentum. They should be allowed to meet freely. Something concrete may emerge from these contacts. India and Pakistan can pick up the thread from where the Kashmiris let it off.
Re: India ready to concede Aksai Chin to China?
But you see India is accepting the transfer/seizure of 40,000 square milometres of land to/by China, accepting the existence of AJK, no Indian passports for Kashmiri’s, and that is why the situation is improving. 
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http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,67181,00.html?tw=rss.TEK
It’s all about business and economics
Curry in Hot Garlic Sauce
The “Chinese threat” may materialize in reverse: Beijing now fears an Indian invasion
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India’s gains from Kashmir bus
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“The line of control could fall like the Berlin Wall”](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=179859)
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Secret: PM-Jiabao agree on territory swap
Very possibly in one-to-one talks between prime minister Manmohan Singh and visiting Chinese premier Wen Jiabao, an agreement has been reached where India will forego its claim over Aksai Chin, especially eight or nine tactically crucial peaks, while China will give up the Eastern Sector. Top officials said the agreement was informal and secret yet, and wouldn’t be contained in the documents signed between the two countries during Jiabao’s visit, but dissonance has been noted in China insisting on “respect for history” in the guiding principles of bilateral relationship-building, while India has reiterated a necessity for “accommodation of reality”.
Meanwhile, both sides have agreed for exchange of maps and disputed claims in the middle sector, and the established working principle is that disputed territories less than twenty kilometres will remain with the possessor, while larger areas will be scrutinised by the JWG on the border dispute, whose work has been decided to be expedited. The Aksai Chin-Eastern Sector swap would be strictly exchange of territories and not populations, but India has queried the Chinese side about the status of the nomadic Tibetan refugees from Aksai Chin who have stayed on in India.
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Bangalore Police take two Tibetan youth leaders into custody](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1073541.cms)
India pledges not to allow anti-China acts](http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/04/12/d50412130188.htm)
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A China, India Combine? Seismic Economics!: William Pesek Jr.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_pesek&sid=a0DlgPffpCBU
Re: India ready to concede Aksai Chin to China?
reza is simply worried their chinese uncle seems to be foresaking them. first the iranians said to hell with you and signed the treaty with India; now the chinese guy wants english lessons and software acumen from India and makes friends.
don't worry reza bhaijan.....you lost it when ayatolla khomeini ran you out. now just focus on your carpet trade and leave intrigue to others!
India knows exactly what they're doing with China and Iran and Pakistan. When trillions are at stake and a real opportunity to be 2nd or 3rd largest economy in 10 years, these distractions need to be put away.
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and if u think pakistan is in position to buy kashmir from india as usa bought alaska,then i critically advise u to go and see a neurologist.arey today india is in a position to buy whole of pakistan and u dream off buying kashmir from india.i m thankful to pakistani ppl like u who cares abt our poverty stricken public…bhai log u plz give us some aid so that we can feed our poor ppl and run our country:D
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now 57 yrs a too much time for pakistan to live in fantasy of wresting whole of kashmir from india.bhai mere come out of fantasy and smell the coffee:Dkitani baar muh ki khaoge tum log,phir bhi sharm nahi aati kya:D
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ok once agreed with u ..thats india china problem…y u poking ur nose into it…sambhal jao warna u 'll get another bloody nose:D
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aapke muh mein ghee shakkar.let us hope loc falls and whole of pakistan merges with india for its progress and its own good