India ponders consequences of devastating First Strike

For India and Pakistan, however, the experience would be beyond imagination. Take the lowest estimates of deliverable Indian and Pakistani nuclear warheads - say 100 for India, and 50 for Pakistan. Assume that one-third are destroyed before launch or fail to work. Drop most of the rest on cities, or on army bases and airfields that are near cities. What do you get?

Lahore, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Multan and Karachi: gone. Delhi, Ahmedabad, Amritsar, Jaipur and maybe Bombay: gone. Twenty or thirty or fifty million people killed outright or condemned to a lingering death - as if somebody suddenly exterminated Spain or South Korea. Pakistan broken into squabbling successor states, and perhaps India split between the economically dynamic south and the less prosperous, horribly injured northern ‘Hindi belt’ as well.

Of course, nothing so bad has happened since the last nuclear war, 57 years ago. Maybe it won’t happen now. Maybe Vajpayee and Musharraf are both just bluffing. We shall see - and probably by autumn.- Copyright
http://www.dawn.com/2002/05/26/op.htm#3

The indians at this forum have not any answer to the article posted here which reveales the weakness of the indian forces. Instead they talk about 71 because they dont have any other option left.

My advise is that Pakistan should fill all its airplanes with at least 5 billion “choorian” and drop them on india so that it could be proven to the rest af the world that there is no man living there

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only p****ies who talks a lot but dosent go for “action” because of there cowardness.

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pakistan will not get kashmir it does matter
how many missiles you test.

Look me old blunted friend I suggest you do that. Here are a few places you could click on if you dare…

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From America to Europe.

US State Department asks Americans to leave India](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/004912.html)

Britain Blocks The Sale of 60 Hawk Jets To India](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/004915.html)

Great China to Japan.

China Tells India To Do More in Pakistan Stand-Off](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/004916.html)

Japan calls on India to act responsibly](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/004919.html)

And you best buddies Russia.

Russia invites Pakistan, India for talks: Islamabad welcomes move](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum4/HTML/004344.html)

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[This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited May 26, 2002).]

Kuddos, where did you get that? Even though, if Pakistan have some techonology sharing with these countries, it would be far enough good than Russian fake weapons

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and the planes, not to mention, use to crash twice in a year

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Oh yeah, remeber what Musharraf said to U.S Congress while visiting U.S.A that India might conduct Missles test. Vajpayee mocked Musharraf’s credibility. Days after, India conducted missles tests of Brahmos. Now, you be the judge and tell me who’s mature?

Kuddos, Pakistan can make and upgrade its own missles. It is India, who has really look after Russian weapons

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How did you know that? Ain’t that shows India’s involvement in Pak Internal affairs

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Take Your Best Shot At Me

Folks seems like Indians are now clutching at straws. Don’t forget that key Indian demands were…

  1. Hand over 20 Indian terrorist
  2. Stop cross border shafting ( this came when demand #1 failed)

Now keeping the above two in mind please congrat Indians for another vijay.

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And also keep in mind Pakistan’s main statements.

  1. There is no infiltration

  2. We only provide “Moral and Diplomatic” support.

With that in mind, read Bush’s statements

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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-Europe.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/26/international/asia/26PREX.html
http://www.observer.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,722521,00.html

Pak Tiger,

And how exactly does Pak “make” its own missiles?

  1. Take Missile out of Chinese/Korean container.

  2. Spray Green Paint

  3. Give Muslim sounding name

  4. Open Chinese/Korean manual. Refer Chinese/Korean - Urdu dictionary if needed

  5. Call Beijing or Pyongyang for last minute advice

  6. Fire

  7. Exchange mithai for another “indigenous” test.

  8. Give press release on “glorious” success of test.

Bhai Wah. Kya Baat Hai.

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Talwar, does it really concern whether Pakistan makes the missiles or not. The thing is that we have got them and they would be enough to blow the asses of millions of Indians.

The Americans are getting their citizens out of India, the British have imposed an arms embargo on India, the Chinese and Japanese are chastising India for its war mongering. And to top it all of India’s buddy Russia has offered to mediate between both countries, something the Indians are blue in the face about. My what an Indian ‘vijay’

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Zaavia,

Any missile fired on India = Death Wish for Pakistan.

We have a REAL ability for a MASSIVE and FINAL second strike.

Just think about that.

Malik,

The situation is still not over. If Infiltration does not stop, we’ll attack. Fake Missile tests or not. Pak Blackmail has not worked.

Last time I chekced, your country’s papers are full of “Hamari lag gayi” editorials.
http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/ed1.htm
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/may2002-daily/25-05-2002/oped/editorial.htm#1
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/cowas.htm

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Talwaar, that may be death warrant for Pakistan, but even if the Indians attack pakistan back, they would suffer more, as even the winds from Pakistan blow into India.

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I dont think that many would be left to celebrate this war, maybe the NRI’s

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On May 24, researchers at Princeton University, where Einstein once worked, came out with statistics on the deaths and injuries that would ensue were India and Pakistan to unleash their nuclear weapons upon each other. The scenario visualized was that were India to bomb Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi- Islamabad, and Faisalabad, and in turn Pakistan were to bomb Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Bangalore and Chennai, the estimated number of deaths in India would be 1.7 million with 900,000 wounded, and in Pakistan 1.2 million deaths and 600,000 injured.

that many people died in iraq-iran-gulf war
that is proportionaltely much higher.
if iraq can survive india with 1 billion can survive.

Well let’s see.

  • Your Prime Minister has fled to his Himalyan hideout after threatening a “decisive battle”.

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  • The Americans are asking their citizens to leave India - not good for for foreign inevstment, especially after the Bombay stock excahnge has been plummeting.

  • Particularly bruising must be the British decision to slap an arms embargo on India, at this time when India needs all the military hardware it can get.

  • Big Asian superpowers like China and Japan are calling upon India to act responsibly, and stop threatening war.

  • Most shocking for the Indian psyche must be the decision of India’s best buddy, Russians to offer mediation between both countries, just days after India said it would not talk to Pakistan at all.

Thats the attention that war mongering gets you know…

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In Islamabad, a government spokesman said President Pervez Musharraf would address the nation Monday, raising hopes of a landmark speech which could help reduce tensions with India
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20020526/wl_nm/southasia_dc_134

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Originally posted by rvikz:
On May 24, researchers at Princeton University, where Einstein once worked....
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You cutting and pasting from sites and passing them off as your own words again rvikz? How so Indian...

mallik do the mathamatics that is iraq's population vs # of killed in war over iran and kuwaite. the cost of the 500 billion.
extraplate that to pakistan -indian situation.

well guys i dont know.. But british analysts say that our country tested the misile to satisfy the domestic audience.. And the before the test our president sent the Indian PM saying that it was not intended to intensify the situation but to satisfy the local pressure...

Malik mian,

Unfortunately the reality is:

  • Our PM is relaxing but your General is running helter skelter giving itnerview to one and all and making dhamki afte another

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  • Bush, Putin, Powell are calling for PAK to end infiltration competely rejecting Pakistan’s “moral/diplomatic” bakwas.

  • World media are making fun of Pakistan’s “test” of missiles bought from China and North Korea.

  • US, Britain, France, Germany, Australia and even smaller countries are evacuating out of Pakistan.

  • Karachi’s Stock market is becoming kabada market

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  • Not one person is supporting Pakistan’s “principled” postion on Kashmir.

Wake up an smell the coffee

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Dont worry, Us has already ordered their people to get out of India. Soon the others will follow suit.

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