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Pak-India World Cup semifinal fixing claims surface, ICC to probe – The Express Tribune
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Emnated for Rawalpindi.
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Just the semi-final?
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Actually the way Dhoni prodded in the recent Aussie Tri series seems suspicious to me. Givng dot bals, eben maiden overs, seemed to be ridiculous strategy. Now, I am not saying he was involved in fixing.....
On a lighter note, I agree semi finals was fixed - India cricket team fixed Pakistan cricket team.
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lets see how resilient cricket is...the game is quickly losing its legitimacy to survive as a sport... it simply does not have a base as wide as soccer or tennis to survive so many shocks ..shocks that are now questioning the moral credibility of this sport...ICC simply does not possess authority to conduct such widespread investigations...so lets not blame them....
how can ICC go in india and conduct a criminal investigation? and until and unless federal prosecution authorities in relevant countries play an active role, this cancer is not curable..and we all know what exactly cancer does if it is not cured in an early stage....and mind you, the “cricket cancer” is already in advanced stages...
and what exactly this cancer is doing? People are and will start questioning the credibiltiy of an otherwise authentic character such as dhoni for the right reason ... why in the hell was he playing so slow? so slow that his own teammate gambhir had to come and say openly that it was a mindless approach ... well may be because he received $50K for 30-min slow batting… what a shame to even think like this but then who can blame us...we the supporters have been betrayed so many times in last 20 years..
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i knew it. even at the time I felt this doesnt seem right.
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i don't see this news anywhere expect in the op's link
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Actually the way Dhoni prodded in the recent Aussie Tri series seems suspicious to me. Givng dot bals, eben maiden overs, seemed to be ridiculous strategy. Now, I am not saying he was involved in fixing.....
lolz
do u have any idea how much dhoni earns per year through ads.
it's somewhere around 50 crore just from commericals,i highly doubt he needs cheap money though fixing
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^ I have no idea of his earnings. Just saying that his batting strategy was mind boggling to say the least. While up to now, I just assumed he was being irrational, this thread just planted that thought in my mind. He could be totally innocent (and most probably is). But that is what scandals do - we cant be sure who is clean.
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Cricket has a huge base. infact bigger than tennis, thanks largley to the sub continent where cricket is followed like a religion and apparently we make babies like rabbits so whatever we in the sub continent follow holds a string base in numbers 
Cricket Second Most Popular Sports in the World
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Ok lets say if it is somehow proven that the match was fixed, then what ?? Would India be stripped of their world champion status ? Or would the players who are found quilty, if they are found guilty be fine, banned ??? How does that help with the outcome of the match ? It is the ICC's responsibility to monitor the game and make sure the games are played fairly.
If they can not do that then just get rid of the organisation altogather and have boards of all respective countries just figure out between them whatever they want to do. ICC is a dummy body. They can not get anything done. The powerful boards manipulate it the way they want to so might as well just **** it down and openly let everyone know that whoever is the most powerful, whoever brings in the most money, that board will dictate terms.
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^^ well do you mean India took money to win?
Even if somehow it gets proved that our players made money in the victory then with the kind of accountability going on in india now a days, all guilty players will be punished but team wont take any integrity hit as a team. it will be individuals who (if any) are guilty not the team.
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Was the DRS fixed as well to save tendulkar from a plumb LBW? 
This thing is getting ridiculous.
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This thing already got ridiculous on the day of the semi final.
Say what others may, I firmly believe the match was fixed. It was the case of top-most level corruption, I think Ijaz Butt was there as well to see the match. The craze India had up till that point to get in the final and win the cup for Tendulkar, the number of dropped catches (four, five), not playing Shoaib Akhtar, plumb LBW not given, mindless bowling (save for Wahab Riaz), god-damned slow batting by the team, and the ease at which the team handed over the match, is all there is to say.
Sure, it may never come out, it may (just like bits and pieces are coming out now). I just hope it does. But the fact remains it was a disjointed effort, just to make the fix unnoticeable to the general public. There wasn’t a hint of urgency or intensity from the team. Sure this may come across as mere hyperbole at this stage, but completely discounting the fix would be unfair too. I am as rational a person as they come, probably the most rational I know, but I’ll stick with my theory after seeing the full match. Twice.
Also there was the case of security had India lost the match, a lot of lives would have been in danger too, due to fanatic fans.
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Yes
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lol
it looks like most the guys really want the match to be fixed,even though there is no such news in mainstream media or any proof involving fixing.
what i can say from indian point of view is that i highly doubt any of players would need to fix, amount of money this guys earn his too good for a bookie to offer.why would this players would be stupid enough to lose crores through commercials for a cheap sum through fixing.can't say about other teams though
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It is one Cricinfo, and the bookie video was shown on television (multiple channels). 
Even ICC said they were launching an investigation (though we all know where that leads). It’s not about wanting the match to be fixed, if we lost trying, we lost trying. It’s the way everything went that day that’s troubling. But like I said, the absolute truth may never come out. Then again, someone may write a book down the years, detailing the truth.
As for Indian point of view, yeah, I agree there is/was no point in fixing. At least that match, which they won anyway. Even mediocre players earn enough to last a lifetime or two, as long as they play a few matches at the top. Then again, players who have little to no future could very well do it, just to earn a few extra coins.
It didn’t stop our three stooges from doing so (one the captain, the other 2nd best bowler at that time, and another a young prodigy).
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^^
just read on cricinfo hardly there was any proof.just one guy claiming
i find lot of sour grapes from english media
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Yeah, but that’s how it starts. 
I mean, it’s not like there was a parallel string operation to uncover the whole messy deal. And that’s why I said, we may live to know the truth, we may not. Just like in football, an investigation is underway by FIFA for the 1978 World Cup that Argentina won, matches were fixed there as well. At this point in time, I’d say 1% chance of ICC bringing out the truth.
Even if a cricketer writes a book down the years, it still may not be proof enough. At the same time, I am free to believe in what I saw happening that fateful day. There were too many things that didn’t go right at the same time for it to be clean. That’s not to say I am an emotional fan, all too willing to put the blame on corrupt players, we already have too many of them.
Like I said, I am as rational and level-headed as they come, never do I jump to early conclusions. But this deal is, and will remain, fishy for me.
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as i said before, the biggest loser is cricket ... slowly but gradually this "rumor-based cancer" is spreading.... now kiwi players are also named... who wud trust them? it does not matter if these rumors are correct or not... the problem is that given the amount of substantiated history on match-fixing in cricket, these rumors, even if 90% of them are baseless, hold enough meat in them to destroy cricket ... its credibility is completely compromised in last 20 years ... and more often than not, those rumors turned out to be true....for years, sarfraz blamed some Pakistani players for match fixing and finally 3 were caught red handed.... mark wagh and warnie accepted taking money ... hansie cronje, azhar ud din, wasim akram, all world class superstars were culprit...10 Pakistani players were judged guilty by a judge in Pakistan... india had to ban 3 players….many in WI and SA are also punished....
the issue of pak-india match has been raised at a very high level..i truly believe the match was played fairly…given 3 Pakistani players were caught few months ago in UK, I doubt that the whole Pakistani team would consider involving in fixing right away…..