India/England *Pre-Series Discussion* (Ganguly Bachao Tehreek Part II)

Time to bid Ganguly goodbye, says Wadekar

*PTI

February 20, 2006*

Ajit Wadekar, the former India captain, said it was time for Sourav Ganguly to step down. Kiran More, the selection committee chairman, had on Saturday refused to confirm whether Ganguly would be considered for the first Test against England starting in Nagpur on March 1. The squad for that match will be announced in Baroda on February 23.

“There is no harm in Ganguly being included in the side but I suppose the time has come [for him to end his career]. The Aussies told Steve Waugh when it was time for him to step down,” Wadekar told PTI.

Wadekar, also a former coach and chief selector, said even if Ganguly was picked for the Test series against England, it would only be a stop-gap arrangement. “Let us be frank. Let us face the fact. The team is winning without Sourav, the youngsters are doing well and it is time to tell Sourav ‘thank you very much. This is your last year’, it should be like that,” he said.

Wadekar, who was chairman of selectors when both Ganguly and Rahul Dravid made their Test debut in England in 1996, claimed that the team management was “forced” to include Ganguly in the team for the Test series against Pakistan. He also criticised the move to open the batting with Dravid to enable Ganguly to be in the final XI. “I think that was wrong,” Wadekar said. “We had three specialist openers, and they were thinking of Sourav also as a opener, just to accommodate him. Wasim Jaffer could have gone to see Pakistan any time. I mean, you have three specialist openers, and you cannot make them passengers. The ideal number for Rahul is three in the batting and he should stick to that.”

He was, however, all praise for Dravid. “He is a guy who leads from the front. Look at the difference between him and Inzamam,” he said. “He decided to open the batting himself, even against [Greg] Chappell’s wishes, because he wanted to shield Sourav, whereas Inzamam tried to shield himself by coming in at number six (in the one-dayers). Dravid is a thinker and a cool guy.”

On the forthcoming series, Wadekar felt that England sides toured the subcontinent with the wrong attitude. “They come with a suspicious mind - ‘the wicket is going to be bad, climate is going to go against them’, as if it is in our hands,” he said. “They want all the facilities in the world, which we don’t get when we go there. We have a lot to talk about them but we don’t grumble, we just focus on our cricket. So by the time they get out of that mindset, the tour is over.”

England have visited India 11 times in more than 70 years of Test rivalry between the two teams and they have won only four series in India. In 46 Tests on Indian soil, the hosts have a 12-10 head-to-head record.

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More non-committal on Ganguly’s selection

  • February 19, 2006*

Kiran More, the selection committee chairman, today refused to confirm whether Sourav Ganguly would be considered for the first Test against England starting in Nagpur on March 1. The squad for that match will be announced in Baroda on February 23.

More, however, denied that Ganguly’s career was over saying “if Sourav continues to perform, no one can stop him from playing for India. But it is still early to comment on the team for the first Test and we will see how things go,” More told PTI. “It would be unjustified to say that only Sourav has a challenge on his hands in the presence of the youngsters who have excelled on this tour. I think it is a challenge for everyone. The best thing about this team is that there is a lot of competition which is a healthy sign.”

More said that the door had not been shut on any player. “In one-day cricket, even VVS Laxman and Anil Kumble, besides Sourav, remain in contention. The important thing is that they are playing cricket and can be called if and when required.”

The three players were excluded for the one-day series against Pakistan. More took a swipe at some former cricketers who have accused him of being a “rubber stamp” and a “toothless” chief selector. “They are sitting on various television channels and need to speak something different. They have no clue what they are talking and what damage they are causing to the team,” fumed More. "Besides, they are highly paid and need to speak things that are controversial, have spice and can glue the viewers on the television screens.

“Prior to the start of the series, they were questioning the credentials of Rahul Dravid as captain, the form of Sachin Tendulkar and emphasising on the negative effects Ganguly’s presence would have on the team,” More continued. “These proved to be nothing but rubbish. I agree that when the team is winning, the job of the selectors becomes easy. But we take decisions which we think are in the best interests of the country and the team.”

Turning to the performance of the team on the Pakistan tour, More expressed satisfaction but added that India needed more quality fast bowlers and safer fielders. “Generally, fielding has been good and there has been a marked improvement. But still, we did not field well in the Tests and need to certainly improve in that area. We have a few good fast bowlers but we need more as today teams require quality fast bowlers to pressurise the opponents. Of course, when we talk of quality, there are several things included and pace is certainly very high on that list.”

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Schedule (or as we say in Pakistan......shee-dule)


**March**

1 - 5  1st Test (Nagpur)

9 - 13 2nd Test (Mohali)

18 - 22  3rd Test (Mumbai)

28th - 1st ODI (Delhi)

31st - 2nd ODI (Faridabad)

**April**    

3rd - 3rd ODI (Goa)

6th - 4th ODI  (Cochin)

9th - 5th ODI    (Guwahati)

12th - 6th ODI    (Jamshedpur)

15 - 7th ODI    (Indore)

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exactly…the whole reason behind keeping him out of the team was to let the younger guys have a chance, and they have completely justified the removal of gangu. there is absolutely no room for him at this point.

kiran more is an f’ing idiot. i feel bad for ganguly who is gripping onto some ray of hope because people like kiran more keep stringing him along for whatever reason. just let him exit gracefully…but i think it’s too late for that.

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I am also initiating Gambhir Hataao Tehreek Part I
My vote is for Waseem Jaffer to be tried as a partner to Sehwag.

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Same from here but Dhoti Hataao Tehreek Part I
bicharey hamarey Aaloo ko gala dia, O sorry i mean Dhoni :)

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Yuvraj misses first Test

NEW DELHI, Feb 21: Indian batsman Yuvraj Singh has been ruled out of the opening Test against England in Nagpur from March 1 because of a hamstring injury, a board official announced on Tuesday.

“Yuvraj will not play in the first Test but Harbhajan Singh has been declared fit for selection,” Board of Control for Cricket in India secretary Niranjan Shah told reporters.

In-form Yuvraj was man of the series in the recent five-match one-day series in Pakistan which off-spinner Harbhajan missed because of a finger injury.

Yuvraj was injured during an unbeaten knock of 107 in the last match in Karachi on Sunday, with India winning the series 4-1.

The stylish left-hander hit 344 runs in the one-dayers at an average of 172.

Former skipper Saurav Ganguly, who has been out of recent one-dayers and struggling to keep his place for Tests, is likely to retain his spot in the middle-order for the Tests against England.

The fitness of opener Virender Sehwag, who retired along with Harbhajan midway into the Pakistan one-day series because of a shoulder injury, will be decided on Wednesday for his place in the side.

“The physio has given him some injections. We will be waiting until tomorrow,” Shah added.

The other venues for the Test series are Mohali (March 9-13) and Mumbai (March 18-22). The Tests will be followed by a seven-match one-day series with the first one starting in New Delhi on March 28.—Agencies

Dawn


Ganguly Bachao Tehreek eik baar phir sey apna jadoo dikha gayi …:smiley:

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Dravid overruled selectors: manager

MUMBAI, Feb 21: Indian cricket captain Rahul Dravid overruled selection committee and opened innings in Test series against Pakistan to shield predecessor Saurav Ganguly from strong Pakistan pace attack, Indian team manger Raj Singh Dungarpur said on Tuesday.

“A captain must be able to set an example of sacrifice. He did not want to expose Saurav Ganguly as an opener. He overruled selection committee of which I was a part.

“We said ‘No, you can’t open the innings’. He (Dravid) said that let not somebody say that we made him (Ganguly) a sacrificial goat. So he opened innings and got a hundred (128 not out),” Singh, a former Indian cricket board chief, said.

Recalling events that led to intense discussion between Dravid, Ganguly and coach Greg Chappell minutes before start of Lahore Test, Singh revealed: “He (Dravid) got up early on morning of the match and went to (coach) Greg Chappell’s room and said ‘I will open the innings’.”

This disclosure clears what transpired during discussion that was shown on television and sparked much speculation. It also means that decision on who would open innings with Virender Sehwag was not taken at team meeting on eve of Test.

So Dravid partnered vice-captain Sehwag, who scored 254, and put up 410 runs, missing the world record by a mere three runs.

While India drew that weather-affected Test and lost series 0-1, they won one-day series 4-1.

Asked if selection committee was convinced that Dravid would do a fine job as he is essentially a No 3 batsman, Singh said: “It’s because he wanted to open innings and he thought it would be unfair to expose Ganguly like that.

“Dravid led the team by example. And this is a hallmark of being a leader,” maintained Singh, who heads Mumbai’s Cricket Club of India.—Agencies

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JHAkas

By Sanjay Jha

A MAN AMONGST BOYS; YUVRAJ

Sourav Ganguly must have smiled after a long time yesterday. India’s most successful captain, now dethroned and displaced, got a vote of conscience from India’s new vice-captain, Yuvraj Singh, who had the courage and confidence to publicly state that the Prince of Kolkotta " deserved" a place in the Indian team, without doubt. At a time when the name Sourav Ganguly, is handled with acute discomfort and nervous edginess by the powers-that-be and some of his former team-mates, it took the Punjab ka Munda to stand out.

If ever all Ganguly -critics and bashers have received a resounding slap on their rosy cheeks or sun-burnt expressions for their vicious , vitiated and vitriolic onslaught against him, this is one of the most Spielbergian moments----- poetic justice being delivered by a man who is the toast of the country for some incredible match-winning performances in Pakistan.

There are many aficionados who have been brutally critical of CricketNext for it’s unflagging and unwavering support for Ganguly through the turbulent and tumultuous times since the Greg Chappell fracas. Despite damning evidence of Chappell’s dubious motives ( even BCCI President Sharad Pawar established his lies , lies and lies in broad daylight) , cricket lovers have ignored his malevolent and malicious intent towards a team-member and former captain, quite simply because we have had these sporadic victories from time to time. Does a ODI series victory over Pakistan mean that we can callously ignore the prejudiced actions which are aimed at annihilating someone’s professional career?

As everyone can see, an injustice done is an injustice done. Yuvraj Singh has had the courage to speak out against the biased treatment meted out to Sourav. And Singh has done that fully aware that he is the vice-captain of the Indian team, and knows that his captain and coach may not really take him for a champagne dinner for his candid statements. And guess why is Yuvraj risking his professional relationships by his honest declarations; one, he is speaking the truth. Second, Sourav truly commands Yuvraj’s respect for being a friend, mentor and inspirational leader and for making him where he is today.

CricketNext believes that Greg Chappell has consistently master-minded the anti-Ganguly tirade to mentally destroy Ganguly ( dropping him at every flimsy pretext) , so that even if he were to be given a chance now, his motivation and drive will have been butchered down by the controversies and blatant politics of hate. Then Greg Chappell can tell the world ,with a cocky Aussie twang, " I told you so, right? ".

At least Yuvraj Singh has unwittingly endorsed CricketNext’s unwavering campaign to back Sourav Ganguly just when the world had in cold blood written him off. Including writing his cricketing obituary . Amongst the boys in blue, a Man is born. Take a bow, Yuvraj Singh. And as for Sourav’s detractors, go buy yourselves a book, " How To Eat Humble Pie Without Using Your Fingers".

See you soon.

Sanjay Jha

Managing Editor

CricketNext


Well, well, well…thoughts?

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Yeh kab hua??

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Ingland 1-0. Let’s go :dhimpak: