India attack may have Pakistani roots - United States

if United States is convinced with India’s case of presenting proof to John McCain and Condoleeza Rica, I suspect Bush will ask Rice to go to Islamabad after India visit.

India is all set to provide proofs of Pakistani elements.

US official: India attack may have Pakistani roots

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration has reason to suspect a group at least partly based in Pakistan for last week’s attack in India, and revealed that the U.S. had warned the Indian government beforehand that terrorists appeared to be plotting an assault on Mumbai, officials said Tuesday.
Evidence suggests that the brutal, prolonged attack on India’s financial capital has some roots in Pakistan, a senior State Department official said. That’s the closest the U.S. has come to placing blame for the coordinated assaults, although the official was careful to say that not all the evidence is in. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
Indian authorities have claimed a Pakistan connection for days, but the United States has not wanted to “jump to conclusions,” as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday. The administration fears that any misstep amid the extraordinarily high emotions surrounding the three-day assault, which killed 172 and wounded 239 in the heart of Mumbai, could spark new and possibly deadly tensions between longtime, nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan.

Rice is set to visit India on Wednesday, carrying the U.S. demand that Pakistan cooperate fully in the investigation into the attacks and try to cool cross-border tempers. Among those killed in Mumbai were six Americans, White House press secretary Dana Perino said.

The revelation of a U.S. warning to Indian counterparts about a possible coming attack comes as the Indian government faces widespread accusations of security and intelligence failures in the wake of the assault.
Washington passed on information it had that a waterborne attack on Mumbai appeared in the works, said a senior administration official. This official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of intelligence information. The official would not elaborate on either the timing or details of the U.S. warning.

Amid some information that the terrorists trained in camps in Pakistan, India has demanded that Islamabad hand over suspected terrorists believed living there and had said that Pakistan’s leaders must take “strong action” action against those responsible.

The State Department official, traveling with Rice in Europe before her India stop, said both sides have acted “in a wise manner” so far, noting there has been no buildup of troops along the India-Pakistan border or other overt signs that sometimes sharp rhetorical exchanges will escalate to military confrontation.

On the origins of the terrorists, the official did not detail the evidence leading to a connection in Pakistan, and did not single out any one terror organization as suspect. But the official said “a variety of information, some of it public, some of it not” points to an unspecified terror group “partially or wholly … located on Pakistan’s territory.”

However, the official also said that the terrorists “certainly have international reach,” a fact that the administration argues demands global cooperation to combat them, including participation from Pakistan, India and the U.S.

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Well, why don't you decipher the article and give your own insight? I am surprised that you want saregamapa's VIEWS on the article, as if HIS VIEWS are going to convince you, when the article obviously did not.

US has no fear and this reference to "high level official" is simply fraudulous yellow-journalism.

Dude, read forum policy, if you have problem in comprehension let me know.

I wasn't aware of such a policy. Can you guide me to it? I am having a hard time finding it.

Thanks.

The innocence.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/185504-forum-guidelines-rules-regulations.html

Honestly, I couldn't find it despite my efforts.

Would you like an order of fries with that ounce of sarcasm?

US Confidential Report on Mumbai terrorism released

In a password-protected document, officials connected to the State Department report that some of the Mumbai terrorists reportedly were trained by the Lashkar-e-Tayyiba terrorist group, with “camps located in Mansera and Muzzarafabad in Pakistani-administered Kashmir.” The 10 terrorists behind the Mumbai massacre “spoke Punjabi” and were of “likely Pakistani origin,” the report said.

NBC exclusive: Confidential U.S. report details Mumbai attacks - Deep Background - msnbc.com

The 17-page report was written by the Overseas Security Advisory Council, a public-private group that serves as the liaison between the State Department and multi-national corporations. The report is not an official State Department document, and says it uses both “embassy reporting” and press accounts to substantiate its analysis of the deadly attacks.
NBC News obtained a copy of the PowerPoint presentation, which is distributed in password-protected form to clients of OSAC. On its website, OSAC describes itself as “a Federal Advisory Committee with a U.S. Government Charter to promote security cooperation between American business and private sector interests worldwide and the U.S. Department of State.”
The Dec. 1 report said that the 10-man terror team chartered a cargo ship out Karachi, and then hijacked a fishing trawler. The group then used inflatable rafts to get to the Indian coast, where they split into four teams. While firing at civilians and lobbing grenades in multiple locations, the report said, the terrorists at one point stole a police van and used all the panic and confusion to attack the Jewish center in Mumbai.
“Attackers came through back entrances and shot indiscriminately,” the report said.
It quotes local police as having said that the terrorists were “very familiar with layout” of the hotels and public buildings they attacked and “may have checked into rooms prior to get lay of land.” They also “may have pre-positioned supplies and weapons in rented rooms.”
The attackers are believed to have trained for a year," focusing on small arms tactics, marine assault, close quarter fighting." The terrorists had “false identifications,” the report said.

The lone surviving terrorist, identified as Ajmal Amir Kasab, was “trained by Lashkar-e-Tayyiba according to press reports.” The report added that his “fellow team members spoke Punjabi” and were of “likely Pakistani origin as well.” The presentation said Kasab “booked a room and stocked” it with supplies days before the attacks. He had “a Mauritius ID.” It was “unclear if he did this and then went to back to Pakistan,” the analysis added.
The report does not make clear which sections are attributed to media accounts, and which sections come directly from “embassy reporting” out of India. An e-mail to the report’s author, a State Department official, was not immediately returned.

Pak accepts terrorists may be from its territory

Finally Pakistan accepts that terrorists may have come from their territory.

WASHINGTON: The terrorist massacre in Mumbai was plotted in Pakistan and was executed by Pakistanis, Indian and US officials now agree. The big question now: How culpable are the Pakistani government and its military and intelligence agency, and how can the answer be handled either way it turns out?

That’s the tricky issue facing New Delhi and Washington as they put together pieces of the terrorist jigsaw to claimed 170-plus lives, including nearly 40 Muslims and nationals from 10 countries.

US advice to India: wait and see how Pakistani government cooperates in the investigation before any punitive action. US directive to Islamabad: prove your protestations of innocence and non-complicity at the official level, with a full and transparent cooperation in the face of overwhelming evidence that the footprints of the terror attack lead back to Pakistan.

This is the gist of the exchanges between the three countries. On Tuesday, Washington broadly accepted India’s contention, based on evidence now shared with US law enforcement and intelligence agencies that the terror trail led to Pakistan. The preponderance of proof include detailed confessions by the one surviving terrorist, GPS tracks, e-mail and electronic tracks, telephone intercepts, and ordnance and forensic evidence, among other things.

US acceptance of India’s case — dismissed out-of-hand as knee-jerk, premature etc — was signaled by an unnamed senior American official who was quoted by Reuters as saying ‘‘There are a lot of reasons to think it might be a group, partially or wholly a group, that is located on Pakistan’s territory.’’

The official, accompanying Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on her trip to the sub-continent, also said Islamabad had accepted the ‘‘possibility that there might be people located on Pakistani territory,’’ involved in the attack and had promised to cooperate in the investigation.

On record though, the state department continued to give Pakistan some breathing space, saying ‘‘it’s too early to say where these attackers originated from — where they originated from, who was behind these attacks.’’ The White House took the same line on Monday, enabling a relieved Pakistani press to crow that Islamabad had been declared innocent.

But every a cursory reading beyond the generalities indicate anything but a clean chit. ‘‘The investigation will obviously point us in a certain direction. But we need to let the investigation take its course. Finger-pointing is not necessarily the best thing at this particular time,’’ State Department spokesman Robert Wood said, while offering a dead giveaway to the origins by immediately adding, ‘‘However, it’s incumbent upon Pakistan to do what it can to make sure that they’re cooperating with this investigation, and help bring these culprits to justice.’’

The tricky problem both New Delhi and the international community faces is in determining the culpability of the Pakistani government and its extent — whether through over or covert complicity or through inaction and denial.

Intelligence circles say Pakistan’s government has always tried to maintain a ‘‘plausible deniability’’ in all its covert activity, including sponsorship of terrorism and nuclear proliferation. For instance, even in the AQ Khan case, Islamabad initially denied proliferation, then insisted Khan had gone rogue and done it on his own. Khan now says the government was very much in the loop and authorised it.

In the Mumbai terror strike, intelligence circles surmise that it is possible the ISI had ‘‘outsourced’’ the operation to a former controller now functioning as a LeT commander or operative, who may or may not have turned rogue. Since preparation for the strike is thought to have stretched a year or more, it was conceived well before the current civilian government took change, and it might have happened without its approval or knowledge.

But no one, including Pakistani experts, doubts that LeT is a creation of the ISI, whose officers are often seconded to the terror group. ‘‘Lashkar-e-Taiba was fostered by ISI as a surrogate to help Mujaheddin by Kashmir…in recent years they have broken out of control from ISI,’’ Shuja Nawaz, a thoughtful Pakistani scholar and brother of former Army chief Asif Nawaz Janjua, who has written a candid history of a militarized Pakistan titled ‘‘Crossed Swords,’’ said on public television on Monday, openly articulating what is said in hushed whispers in Pakistan.

Nawaz said the LeT is still operating in Pakistan, holding large meetings and collecting funds, and a true test of Islamabad’s commitment will be to act on it now. ‘‘If there is any ambivalence (towards LeT), now is the time…there should be no reason not to act,’’ he said.

But going by past record, chances are bleak that Pakistan will stick to any commitment on crackdown or cooperation particularly since the military still seems to call the shots in Islamabad. A study of past crises between the two sides compiled by the Washington-based Stimson Center elaborately chronicles Islamabad’s fudging and double-speak on the terrorism issue based on interviews with U.S officials.

In one chapter, the study relates how former military ruler Pervez Musharraf kept fudging the infiltration and terrorism issue by telling U.S Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage that ‘‘nothing is happening’’ across the Line of Control. Armitage, it says, insisted on a more than a present-tense commitment from Musharraf.

‘‘General Musharraf also claimed that training camps for militants did not exist on Pakistani soil. Armitage shared with Musharraf evidence to the contrary,’’ the study relates. Musharraf finally commits not to allow Pakistan and the territory under its control not to be used for terrorism. '‘Was Musharraf’s pledge substantive or just expedient?’'the study asks, going to suggest that it was mostly the latter.

Pak accepts terrorists may be from its territory: US-USA-World-The Times of India

Best line of all after a long report "from embassy" :)

:sleep2:

Former Pakistani Army officers and ISI assisted terrorists in Mumbai attacks

This is shocking. This does not bode well for India-Pakistan relations. Was this another Kargil type operation.

Source: Attackers aided by Pakistanis

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NEW DELHI, Dec. 3 (UPI) -- U.S. intelligence agencies believe former Pakistani Army officers and its intelligence agency helped the Mumbai attackers, a former Pentagon official claims.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that no links had been uncovered between the terrorists and the Pakistani government.

The former official's comments came as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had meetings with Indian leaders in New Delhi and U.S. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with Pakistani counterparts in Islamabad.

Rice said Pakistan had a "special responsibility" to cooperate with India and help prevent attacks in the future. She also warned India against reacting to the attacks in a way that would yield "unintended consequences," the newspaper reported.

"The response of the Pakistani government should be one of cooperation and of action," she said at a news conference. "Any response needs to be judged by its effectiveness in prevention and also by not creating other unintended consequences or difficulties."

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Source: Attackers aided by Pakistanis - UPI.com

**Source: Attackers aided by Pakistanis **

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NEW DELHI, Dec. 3 (UPI) – U.S. intelligence agencies believe former Pakistani Army officers and its intelligence agency helped the Mumbai attackers, a former Pentagon official claims. The New York Times (NYSE:NYT) reported Wednesday that the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that no links had been uncovered between the terrorists and the Pakistani government.

The former official’s comments came as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had meetings with Indian leaders in New Delhi and U.S. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with Pakistani counterparts in Islamabad.

Rice said Pakistan had a “special responsibility” to cooperate with India and help prevent attacks in the future. She also warned India against reacting to the attacks in a way that would yield “unintended consequences,” the newspaper reported.

“The response of the Pakistani government should be one of cooperation and of action,” she said at a news conference. “Any response needs to be judged by its effectiveness in prevention and also by not creating other unintended consequences or difficulties.”

Kinda weird that intelligence agency is blamed but government is not linked, probably he wants to say that army wants to initiate war with India without ‘political’ government knowledge.

Still everything is coming out of speculations (may have, believe, may be etc.), why can’t these guys keep their traps shut until final conclusion is reached?

Pakistani government has already proposed a joint investigation of this carnage.

Pakistan proposes joint probe -DAWN - Top Stories; December 03, 2008

While India trying hard to keep the fire raging, using it in election rallies:

Rice hints at Al Qaeda involvement: India determined to act ‘decisively’ -DAWN - Top Stories; December 04, 2008

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/world/asia/04pstan.html?ref=world

LAHORE, Pakistan — Mounting evidence of links between the Mumbai terrorist attacks and a Pakistani militant group is posing the stiffest test so far of Pakistan’s new government, raising questions whether it can — or wants to — rein in militancy here.

President Asif Ali Zardari says his government has no concrete evidence of Pakistani involvement in the attacks, and American officials have not established a direct link to the government. But as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice lands in Pakistan on Thursday, pressure is building on the government to confront the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which Indian and American officials say carried out the Mumbai attacks.

Though officially banned, the group has hidden in plain sight for years. It has had a long history of ties to Pakistan’s intelligence agencies. The evidence of its hand in the Mumbai attacks is accumulating from around the globe:

A former Defense Department official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that American intelligence analysts suspected that former officers of Pakistan’s powerful spy agency and its army helped train the Mumbai attackers.

According to the Indian police, the one gunman who survived the terrorist attacks, Azam Amir Kasab, 21, told his interrogators that he had trained during a year and half in at least four camps in Pakistan and met at one of them with Mohammad Hafeez Saeed, the Lashkar-e-Taiba leader.

And according to a Western official familiar with the investigation in Mumbai, another Lashkar leader, Yusuf Muzammil, whom the surviving gunman named as the plot’s organizer, fielded phone calls in Lahore from the attackers.
Many of the charges against Lashkar originate from investigators in India, which has long been at odds with Pakistan. The United States shares an interest with India in shutting down Pakistani militant groups that pose threats to its soldiers in Afghanistan.
Today, Lashkar-e-Taiba, meaning “army of the pure,” operates openly in Lahore. Its militant wing, Western officials say, has used camps in Pakistani-administered Kashmir and Pakistan’s tribal areas to change from a group once focused primarily on Kashmir into one now determined to join the ranks of a global jihad. The Mumbai attacks, which included foreigners among its targets, seemed to fit the group’s evolving emphasis.
The 63-year-old Mr. Saeed lives in a large compound that includes a cream-colored mosque that faces a bustling commercial street. A sign outside says Center of Qadsisiyah, a triumphant reference to the place where the Arabs defeated the Persians in the seventh century.

A spokesman for Mr. Saeed, Yaya Mujahid, denied in an interview on Wednesday that Mr. Saeed was involved in the Mumbai attacks, and described the Indian demand that he be turned over along with 19 others as “propaganda.”
“India wants him because he exposes India on Kashmir and on water closure,” Mr. Mujahid said, referring to Pakistani complaints about India cutting off water sources to Pakistan.

The group’s public face, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, runs Islamic schools and charity works and maintains a 75-acre campus about 15 miles north of Lahore, at Muridke, he said. Since 9/11, he added, “the scene has changed and the relationship is not so good with the establishment.”

According to Western intelligence officials, Lashkar was formed in 1989 with the assistance of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency, with Mr. Saeed as its head collaborator.

How far that relationship extends today remains a topic of intense debate, Western officials said. Critics of the ISI in Pakistan maintain that the Pakistani intelligence agency still protects it.

Though established as a proxy force to fight India in Kashmir, Lashkar has since turned itself into a transnational group, officials say. Today it has cells in Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Pakistan’s tribal areas, and a few of its fighters have even turned up in Iraq, officials said.

Whether the group has come under the influence of Al Qaeda is uncertain.

“We’re not saying there’s a direct hand in it but you have to think there’s some learning going on, emulation going on, there are influences or contacts of some kind,” a senior American official said.

Accounts from the captured gunman in Mumbai as well as those from another former Lashkar fighter who spoke with The New York Times provided glimpses of its recruitment methods and how the Mumbai attacks were planned.

According to Rakesh Maria, the chief of the crime branch of the Mumbai police, the surviving gunman, Mr. Kasab, came from a village called Faridkot, in Punjab. The son of a laborer, he dropped out after fourth grade and moved to Lahore to join an older brother and make a living as a day laborer.

There, he told investigators, he was recruited into Lashkar, according to Devan Bharti, a deputy police commissioner in Mumbai.

One of the camps he attended was in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-administered Kashmir, where Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the Lashkar affiliate, did relief work after a big earthquake in 2005, Mr. Bharti said.

There were roughly 25 people, sometimes more, in each camp. Whether some of them were being prepared for other attacks on other targets, in India or elsewhere, is not known. “We can’t rule it out,” Mr. Bharti said.

He received training in handling arms, navigating the sea and survival techniques. He was shown Google Earth maps and video images of his targets. At one of the sessions, he told interrogators, Mr. Saeed, the Lashkar leader, gave a motivational speech, covering a host of pan-Islamic grievances from Palestinian territory to Iraq to Kashmir.
A GPS navigational device was found on the boat that the gunmen used to get close to Mumbai, before killing its captain and abandoning it in the Arabian Sea. They left Karachi on Nov. 23.
He knew only limited information about his co-conspirators, Mr. Bharti said. He did not know whether there were plans to attack other targets. “He was only a foot soldier,” Mr. Bharti said.

He was given an AK-47, a pistol, grenades and 5,400 rupees, about $110. The police said they were still looking into whether the gunmen had collaborators who helped them plot the attack beforehand, or during the day of the siege. The police dismissed earlier reports that they had rented rooms earlier and positioned weapons.

Mr. Bharti said that the information Mr. Kasab had provided so far had checked out, including his most recent tip: that he and a partner, Ismail Khan, had abandoned a bag with two 8.8-pound bombs at Victoria Terminus, also known as Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, the railway station where they began their killing spree. The police recovered the bag on Wednesday.

But much remains unclear or unknown about him. A strict practice among the trainers of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the former Lashkar fighter told The Times, was a system of changing the names of the members every few months, so that everyone had layers of names that were discarded over time.

That system was intended to make it very difficult to identify members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, and is a likely explanation why Pakistani investigators have had little luck in finding Mr. Kasab’s family in Faridkot.

The former fighter, who comes from the tribal areas of Pakistan, said he joined Lashkar-e-Taiba in 2000, stayed for eight months, then switched to another group, Jaish-e-Muhammad, for “ideological reasons.”

He said that retired Pakistani Army officers impressed with Lashkar’s ideology joined its ranks as volunteers. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to be identified to his former associates.

According to the former fighter, some members of Lashkar moved to the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, particularly the Mohmand region, close to the city of Peshawar.

The group focused on waging war against India, he said, but was also committed to wider goals, among them the creation of an Islamic state in south and central Asia.
At its start in 1989, Osama bin Laden was widely reported to have been a financial supporter. Since 2002, Lashkar trainers have worked closely with Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, according to Seth Jones, an expert on militant groups at the RAND Corporation who has spent time in Afghanistan.

Their presence had increased in Afghanistan in the last year, Mr. Jones said. “They have had small numbers of fighters embed with local Afghan units on the ground such as the Taliban to gain combat experience and improve their tactics, techniques and procedures.”
Lashkar was banned under strong American pressure in 2002. Since then, Mr. Saeed disassociated himself from Lashkar, said his spokesman, Mr. Mujahid. Lashkar was now an “operational wing” to fight in Kashmir — its fighters no longer under Mr. Saeed’s control.
Asked if he knew the operational commander of Lashkar, Mr. Mujahid waved his hand dismissively, and said he was in Kashmir.

He also denied even knowing the name of Mr. Muzammil, the man identified by the Indian authorities as the person in charge of the Mumbai operation.
“Everyone who was interested in Kashmir, went to Kashmir,” he said. “They are doing there what they have to do.”

Yet again its coming out of 'speculations', not after completing investigation. BTW Pakistan has already proposed for joint investigation to India, lets see how India responds.

Mr Saregamapa let the Indians do their investigations first…since we have already seen Indian investigations of Samjhauta Express and Malegaon attack. In both of these cases Pakistanis was blamed in the beginning but after one year it was disclosed that it was the handi work of some hindu terrorist organization.

Indians named Muslim militants for Samjhauta Express blast/malegaon attack according to their preliminary findings. Later on it was established that it was the handiwork of Hindu extremist groups. Keeping in view the hindu extremist groups of Maharashtra it wount be a surprise if the involvement of the same groups is established in this case as well. Besides still the government cannot establish whether 10 people or 15 people were involved in the attack.

http://www.itgo.in/index.php?option=com_co…Itemid=1&secid=

**Though the security agencies have been groping in the dark, the Samjhauta blasts were speculated to be the handiwork of Islamic terror groups with the aim of derailing the India-Pakistan peace process.

Three months ago, when Safdar Nagori, the arrested chief of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) was administered a nacro-test and a questionnaire on his outfit’s hand in Samjhauta blast by the Gujarat Police. But, Hashmi denied SIMI’s role, saying: “Why would we kill our own Muslim brothers?”

But, with Indore surfacing as the key centre of the militant Hindu Jagran Manch after the arrest of Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt Col Purohit, the Haryana railway officials investigating the Samjhauta Express attack were alerted on the possible involvement of the Hindu militant groups in the blast.
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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p…9-11-2008_pg3_1

**Editorial: Prospects of Hindu terrorism in India **

At least 10 people, including a serving Lieutenant Colonel Prashad Srikant Purohit and a Hindu monk and nun, have been arrested over alleged involvement in bomb explosions that killed four people in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon in the western Maharashtra state in India. The network is linked to another arrested former major Ramesh Upadhyay who represents the terrorist organisation Abhinav Bharat. The accused Lt Col Purohit is also being investigated over a bomb attack in February 2007 that killed 68 people on the Samjhauta Express, a “friendship” train between Delhi and Lahore, killing mostly Pakistani passengers. Investigators fear that the trail will go on to net more serving and retired officers.

The colonel has confessed to the Samjhauta Express blast and foreclosed the “options” of “conspiracy” screamed by some Hindutva politicians. Col Purohit has also confessed to training Hindu terrorists who had taken to attacking Muslims and has told investigators that he not only trained the Samjhauta Express terrorists, he also supplied them with the explosives to do the job. The intent he says was to cause armed conflict between Pakistan and India so that anti-Muslim passions could be nurtured in India, leading to violence.

There are many answers that the Indians need to provided regarding the massacre in Mumbai:

  1. The indian navy can stop Pakistani fishermen who accidently drift away into their waters but they couldnt stop these terrorists who according to them came on boats/ships and rewached Mumbai after travelling 400 Nautical miles or so.

  2. Secondly the weapons used were in a huge quantity, i cannot imagine how the carried those weapons on the roads of Mumbai and then how they managed to ship them in the hotels keeping in view security cameras and the checks at the entry gates of hotels.

  3. Why was the anti terrorist squad chief killed who established the role of hindu extremist groups in the terrorism within India?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Fu…c+ten+questions

Buried in the rubble, ten questions

As Mumbai copes with one of the world’s worst terrorist attacks in years, several questions remain.

1** Security officials say the terrorists received no local aid and carried all the arms and ammunition in rug sacks from Pakistan. However, it is unclear how they lugged weaponry that lasted the group 59 hours as they walked swiftly on Mumbai’s streets. **

There were four terrorists, for example, at the Taj — they exploded at least 42 grenades and fired hundreds of rounds from their AK 47s, and 50 were found unexploded. A hand grenade weighs between half a kilogramme to a kilogramme depending on the type, and a magazine weighs 225 grams — that would mean more than 100 kilogrammes of weight, with all four men purportedly carrying the equivalent of a very heavy suitcase and walking around briskly, shooting to kill.

2 Why was Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh allowed to take an entourage into the ravaged Taj Mahal hotel, their presence ruining many forensics clues that would have helped build a stronger case in court?

3 **Media leaks say large quantities of RDX were found outside the Taj. But army officials who scoured the area deny any such finding. **

4 Why did it take the National Security Guards (NSG) take 10 hours to reach the site from Manesar in Haryana, though the seriousness of the attacks was clear within 45 minutes when the top police officers died? When was the force requisitioned? Why was their travel delayed?

5 A day after the terrorist attack and casualties at the CST Railway Station, why did Sumana Raghavan, general manager of Central Railways, fly down to New Delhi and party at Taj Palace hotel with Railway Board colleagues?

6 Why were journalists allowed so close to the gunbattle sites? Why did the police not cordon off the entire area soon after they realized the enormity of the crisis? Why were terrorists allowed on live TV?

7 When they allegedly landed by boat, did the terrorists break into two groups (as claimed by the chief minister) or three? How did they walk the long distances on the road, with weapons in hand, before seizing vehicles?

8 Why were the deaths of the three police officers made public? Combat experts say it is a deeply morale-busting move.

9 Why were the police so poorly equipped? Even the senior officers did no have battle gear although a fullscale gunbattle was underway.

10 Did the two taxis blow up due to explosives packed inside – which would support the RDX theory – or due to grenades?

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=150223

**India’s rabid media **

Wednesday, December 03, 2008
By Mahavish Rezvi

This past week the world has witnessed yet another horrific terrorist attack, this time in the vibrant city of Mumbai, India. As a human being my sympathies lie with the people of India in their time of grief, but as a journalist watching Indian media cover this attack I am deeply disappointed.

The world looks at India as the largest democracy in the world, and the idealist in me expects the media to be free and balanced in such a ‘democratic’ society. It is with regret that I write that the Indian broadcast media has let preconceived notions take over in their coverage of this attack.

Watching an Indian channel the first night of attacks I heard a terrorist on the phone with an anchor, when asked where they are from the terrorist reply Hyderabad Deccan. The anchor proceeded to ask if he meant Hyderabad in Pakistan. But the terrorist refuted this claim and insisted on hailing from Deccan. Is the Indian media’s hatred for Pakistan so great that refuse to hear what they don’t want to hear?

India is ready to begin the blame game Pakistan the instant an attack takes place. But is it so hard to imagine that there could have been home grown elements involved in these attacks? The bombing of the Samjhota Express train on February 18th 2007 was one such example where again the finger was quickly pointed towards elements within Pakistan. However, now over a year later it is discovered than a Lieutenant-Colonel P S Purohit from the Indian army was responsible. The Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) claimed that Purohit supplied RDX for Samjhauta Express blast. A daily paper in Pakistan carried a story this morning where Christine Fair, a South Asia affairs analyst for US think-tank RAND Corporation is quoted saying, "“This isn’t India’s 9/11. This is India’s Oklahoma City.”

We in Pakistan have gotten used to turning to our troubled regions in the north for blame these days. Not nearly two months ago scores of Pakistanis and foreigners lost their lives in the Marriot blast in Islamabad. So if it is anyone, it is the Pakistanis who understand what the Indian nation is going through, both in anger and grief.

I truly believe that what links us as two nations is more than what divides us. I am a second generation immigrant myself, and I have need been able to visit the place where my father was born and bred. I feel that due to severed relations with India we have been left rootless. Pakistan is now my home, but my roots certainly still lie on the other side of the border.

When I hear of natural disasters in regions of the land we left behind decades ago I still feel a pang in my heart. Even though it is not a place I have ever been to, my connection to it is through the fond memories of my family. I am absolutely sure there are many families across the borders who feel the same way. We cannot change the course of history, but we can certainly change the future.

A stable and healthy relationship between the two countries is not only preferable for families such as mine, but paramount for the stability of our region. Our armies cannot afford the luxury of standing eyeball to eyeball at our borders; the Pakistani army is stretched fighting Al Qaeda linked groups in the northern regions of Pakistan. In this globalized world we cannot afford to be insular in our thought. The bigger picture should definitely be kept in mind, which is the global war against terrorists. Many across Pakistan accuse us of fighting America’s war, but it is our people who are the main targets of terrorists. At a time like this our neighbours should be providing support to the new and struggling democracy in Pakistan, and not heaping blame that may very well reverse the gains we have made in the recent past.

I request the Indian media to show restraint before jumping to conclusions and fanning the fire. It is irresponsible journalism. These relationships have taken years to mend, let them not be destroyed anew because of yellow journalism and finger-pointing.

The writer is an associate producer for Geo News. Email: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]

Re: India attack may have Pakistani roots - United States

come on dudes, instead of discussing the topic u guys have bombarded the thread with articles.