India, Afghanistan supporting Militants

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ISLAMABAD/PESHAWAR: The arrested commanders of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan have confessed that secret departments of India, including RAW, and Afghanistan have been providing them weapons and funds to fight against the Pakistan Army. A report here on Saturday submitted to high officials by a joint investigation team said that 23 most wanted militant commanders including Sim Khan, Mahmood Khan and Maulvi Umer who were captured during operation Rah-e-Rast have confessed that they had been provided financial aid, weapons and special training by secret agencies from India and Afghanistan to fight against Pakistan’s security forces.
The report also divulged that some militants received special war training from Afghanistan and secret agencies of two other neighbouring countries also supported them in the plan.
It was said in the report that secret agencies from India were in contact with militants in Jalalabad, Kandahar and Mazar Sharif and the militants went to their collaborators via secret ways where they were invited to feasts and they were provided weapons and money earned by the narcotics trade.
Many arrested militant commanders have reportedly been shifted to secret locations for further investigations.—Online

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This information must be followed by concrete action, and whoever is behind it must be taken to task both diplomatically and by exerting collective pressure of allies around the globe.

To Indians: remember “Kasab”? Looks like your canaries are singing too. :wink:

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Interesting...Who is the third country?

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One of them was named, India. Who is the other? We know it isn't China so it has to be Iran. That would be ironic since the Pakistani masses are in love with the idea of their "bhais" in Iran getting nuclear weapons (as if that somehow is good for Pakistan) because of a naive belief in the anachronistic "ummah" idea. Apparently while Pakistanis scream "ummah! ummah!" their "bhais" in Afghanistan and Iran are stabbing them with a knife...

If this is proven, sanctions should be placed on these governments by the international community for sponsoring terrorism.

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Pakistanis, let alone even Afghanis, do not consider the govt. of Afghanistan as their "bhais", because it is a puppet regime with Mayor of Kabul made to look bigger than he really is. Now that we have that out of the way.

Iranians could be behind it, but they would risk the spill over into their own nation.

Two other nations (And this is just a guess): USA (Because it is allowing India and Afghanistan read North Alliance goons get away with indulging in regional terrorism with its forefront ally in this war. Therefore, USA is not living upto its boasted title of an "Ally".)

Second nation: Isreal. Mossad seems to be somewhat of an expert in espionage and a long history of regional terrorism as evident from Palestinian apartheid and constant human rights violations at a world level.

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What is with the Pakistani obsession of seeing the hand of the US and Israel behind everything? (the US would have no motive to support their sworn enemies. That would be like Pakistani donating to the India defense ministry. You mentioned possible spillover into Iran. Why not factor in the consequences of the US supporting terrorists whose goal is to destroy it?) The article says *neighboring *nations. The US and Israel do not border Pakistan. Afghanistan, Iran, India, and China do (Tajikstan is very close but a few miles of Afghanistan and China separate it from Pakistan). Afghanistan and India have been named. That leaves only Iran or China. Obviously it makes no sense for China to support terrorism. Iran is the only logical choice and Pakistanis certainly consider them their "bhais."

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It's not an obsession, it's calling a spade a spade. USA has illegally, without the consent of UN invaded Iraq while it should have been focusing on Afghanistan in the first place, and Al Qaeda specifically. How often do you hear analysts talking about Al Qaeda. The truth of the matter is, USA has given up on capturing OBL, the CIA protege.

Now talking about what they'd gain from it? A denuclearized Pakistan that is less potent, and more willing to play a "positive" role towards China from an American perspective.

Don't believe it? Think again! Look at the global trend and past history, one would have to be exclusively arrogant or biased to not see the double-standards USA and Isreal have displayed in the name of "democracy".

So, yes USA and Israel most certainly fill the bill in more than one ways, and there's more to it than meets the eye.

You say it could be Iran, i agree and say you may be right. But i'm not too high on that alone. Iran alone is not capable of catapulting TTP, other players are involved.

Right now we have to go on reports that are coming out, and this one names India and Afghanistan directly, so I would really like to see the lazy govt. of Pakistan take some action on it, and stop singing the "buddy buddy" tune with a nation that is intent on destroying Pakistan on all fronts.

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We see these kind of messages once in a while and nothing ever comes out of these investigations.
Kill the jehadis. You are doing India a huge favour. We do want Pakistan to be on the frontline. Not India…
Sometimes I wonder if some people need to be brainwashed. They believe whatever is written when it suits them.

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Use common sense. The article refers to "two other neighboring countries." One of them was named, India. That leaves either Iran or China. The US and Israel do not even border Pakistan yet due to the perverse obsession some have with them you blame them for it even though the article rules them out.

Your theory makes no sense. The US is at war with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and you are claiming the US would sponsor these groups in Pakistan. If they were strengthened they would eventually come to the US. The US fears Pakistani disintegration because there is no telling what would happen in that situation. The worst case scenario is fanatics taking over Pakistan's nukes in that scenario.

Pakistan is basically irrelevant vis-a-vis China as far as the US is concerned. The US wants to counterbalance China with Japan and India. Pakistan is too small and too poor to be a factor in this equation.

Iraq has zero to do with Afghanistan/Pakistan. Before 9/11 the US was not in Afghanistan and Pakistanis were complaining that the US "abandoned" it in the 90's. Iran and India were in Afghanistan--as was Pakistan (what happened to opposition to "interfering" with foreign countries?)--so it isn't that much of a stretch to see them move to the next country over. The US will be gone from Afghanistan and Pakistan in a few years; Iran and India will forever be in the region and have far more incentive to influence outcomes in the region than the US does.

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If only common sense was so common !!!! Anyway what is the fun if the conspiracy does not have US or Israel in it :D

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This is typical Pakistani nonsense.....

They blame everyone else but themselves for the problems they created.

Pakistanis think that their country was founded for the Pure Muslims in South Asia and thus anytime they fight other muslims that those muslims are not true muslims and must have some dangerous foreign hand. How else could a muslim take up arms against the nation of Pure muslims aka Pakistan.

That is why when Bengalis RIGHTLY rebelled against Pakistan due to their discrimination, lack of resources going to East Pakistan. Pakistanis blamed the Hindus living in East Pakistan and India as being responsible instead of taking responsibility that it was West Pakistan's discrimination that led to the chaos in Bangladesh.

That is why when Balochis rebelled in the 1970's, Pakistan blamed Shia Iran, Soviet Union, Afghanista and India instead of themselves and the lack of development that has occured in that area and the Balochis RIGHTLY feel that their national resources have been taken and no development has occured there.

That is NOW that the Pakistani Taliban have lost their heads and are killing Pakistanis. This due to the stupid policy pursued by the Pakistani Gov't of using militants to further their foreign policy in Afghanistan and Kashmir. And now Pakistan has created this Frankenstein Monster which it can't control. It blames India, Jews, Israel, Zionists and USA for the problem which Pakistan is totally responsible for.

I think the only the way to convince Pakistanis to go after Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda is to tell Pakistanis they are Jews and Israelis funded by India and Mullah Omar is a Zionist Agent.

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I agree with this…:k:

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these 'arrested' talebans will admit to anything to be spared some more torture aka interrogation by Pakistan military. This is just feel good fake news. This is what is going to happen -

ISI wants to spare the lives of these comrades. So they get them to 'confess' to this kind of news and as a quid pro quo, let these guys of a bit or a lot easier. Releasing fake news diesn't cost anything and the Taleban and ISI thus can continue their relationship.

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Some of what you're saying is correct, there has to be in-house discipline as well. But that does not excuse external forces of their support for militants and terrorism. India is known to have a track record (which they btw boast of now) of adding fuel to the fire, and then taking advantage of it at the cost of regional terrorism.

West Pakistani politicians may have acting arrogantly and then threw Armed Forces at East to resolve issues, but India no-less was a main culprit, and has remained so since long before in the regional affairs. There isn't a single neighbor in the vicinity who is not sick and tired of Indian sponsored terrorism whether it be Sri Lanka (LTTE) or Afghanistan (Northern Alliance), or Pakistan (TTP).

In the name of house-cleaning, we cannot overlook other culprits who are a main factor in the chaos.

@ Jalaluddin: We could say the same about "kasab". he was told to say what RAW wants him to, so they can continue their terrorist activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan. How you like them apples?

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Thats fine...but so far no one has given me a proper answer.

Why would India be interested in de-stabilizing Pakistan? What does India gain with Pakistan in chaos?

Why would the Pakistani Taliban be taking their marching orders from Hindu India?

Why would the Taliban be taking their orders from India and yet the Pakistani Taliban attacking Pakistan while their Afghan Taliban attacking US, NATO and Indian Embassies?

Is there any proof of Indian involvement in these activities?

From what I know there is none, and Pakistanis just use India to hide behind instead of confronting their own failures.

Don't lose your pen...
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I wish there were more open minded people like you in not only Pakistan, but in India as well.

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In case of kasab, it was not just kasab claiming he was trained by Pakistan agency.

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Yeah don't call M2K enlightened. This the guy who wants to burn down schools.

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No..thats your buddies the Pakistani Taliban who are burning down schools

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See here is where your problem exists. You are doing a Bush or a Stalin. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them a Taliban supporter. Its rather idiotic to assume that this whole situation is black and white.

You and Posh spice have openly stated that we need to burn that schools that provide Islamic teachings. Something that proves you have no moral values whatsoever. Next you will wanna burn books including the Quran.

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Nothing wrong with Islamic teaching as long they are not being taught to hate other people or being brainwashed into becoming suicide bombers or violent extremists.

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LMAO! Changing your tune again I see?