In your opinion it is hard practising your faith in Britain as a young Muslim
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**yes it is hard practising your faith in Britain as a young Muslim
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no it is not hard practising your faith in Britain as a young Muslim
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Yes, its very difficult.
Majority of People are Athesits and Materialistic minds and oppose any religious laws.
Constant media attacks on Islam associated with terrorism.
Practising your faith when working for someone is diffcult getting time away for prayers, fasting times, jummah etc.
Glad to help.
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Azim's first point is glaringly ignorant and completely false. The majority of Brits are CHRISTIAN and follow CHRISTIAN laws (which are not ALL that different from true Islaamic laws.
The 2nd point is debatable.
The 3rd I doubt also. If you work for a reputable company, you will and should be given your time to pray and your time off on appropriate holidays. In Britain as well as in America, there are always cultural and sensitivity training seminars given to employees - who are REQUIRED to attend. If you work for a corner deli or a mom-and-pop type of operation, this may not apply but white collar jobs, for sure.
In your other thread, 786, you specifically mentioned drug use as a major factor. You may want to reconsider that. The majority of citizens in the western world are not drug users. They do, however, consume alcoholic beverages and do not consider it a big deal. The western outlook on and use of alcohol however is very different from the way its used in Pakistan. When theres alcohol over there, the guys tend to drink until incoherent. In the west, people can go out after work, have a beer or 2 and then go home with a slight buzz on. No puking, falling down, passing out. Not that I'm saying its a GOOD or BAD thing, its just different from what you're implying.
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Majority of Brits are Christian in name only, they celebrate Christmas and have Christenings when a baby is born but these occasions have become cultural/social events and have lost their religious meanings.. The only people who go to Church in this country are old biddiesā¦ My colleagues/classmates who are supposed to be Christian regularly blaspheme against Christ :as: and Mary :as:, and make rude jokes about them, some Christians!! Theyāre meant to worship them and Iām the one who gets offended because we believe in them to.
Judging from the Rabid Christian Preachers from America on God-Channel, Revelation etc. who always rant about them āevil, barbarian, moon-worshipping Mozlemsā maybe in a way itās a good thing that Brits are not religious like Americans, itās hard enough for us in this country with them being so nationalistic (BNP etc.), if that was combined with Christian fanaticism God knows what the state of Muslims (both indigneous and us immigrants) would be hereā¦
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In your other thread, 786, you specifically mentioned drug use as a major factor. You may want to reconsider that. The majority of citizens in the western world are not drug users. They do, however, consume alcoholic beverages and do not consider it a big deal. The western outlook on and use of alcohol however is very different from the way its used in Pakistan. When theres alcohol over there, the guys tend to drink until incoherent. In the west, people can go out after work, have a beer or 2 and then go home with a slight buzz on. No puking, falling down, passing out. Not that I'm saying its a GOOD or BAD thing, its just different from what you're implying.
I'm getting sick of your sugarcoated unfounded criticism of our society and shamelessly painting a false and rosy picture of the West like they have monopoly over morality. You don't seem to tire of generalising a few isolated cases to all Pakis. In your posts you make it sound like everyone in Pak is a drunkard, homo-paedophile, incestual etc.
Vices (whether it be incest, paedophilia or alcoholism) exist in both Pak and America but it exists on a far larger scale in America where it is even accepted.
Pakis who drink alcohol are a very small minority compared to Westerners.
I disagree with you that Westerners drink sensibly, maybe a few old biddies will only have a drink of wine with a meal but the majority of Westerners do drink until incoherent, until they puke, pass out and fall down etc. I just need to go outside a local pub or club in Manchester to see that, maybe you can kid some FOB in Lalukhet but not us.
In Pakistan a cricket or soccer match is the highlight of peopleās social-recreation life, here in the West it is getting absolutely wrecked/pissed/wasted and going through as many sex partners as possible, it seems that is all Westerners live for...
I know Western society doesn't have the āforbidden fruitā attitude to alcohol but that doesn't mean it is not abused, it's impractical to draw a line with alcohol thatās why our religion forbids it completely... Itās very much common for Western people do stay out late getting wasted out of their heads and then waking up the next morning in their own puke and faeces with a really bad hangover.
Alcohol related crime is far too rampant in this country whether itās dangerous driving or violence, I even personally know a few White girls who have been raped whilst theyāve been too drunk.
The type of Pakis you mentioned are not really Pakis at all, theyāre in awe of Western ways when our ways are far better than the West, itās those type of people who wish to spread the morally decadent ways of the West in our country, your average Paki doesnāt serve alcohol at their weddings, not even here in the Westā¦
Pakis are not perfect and there is Pakis who drink, do drugs, have pre-martial sex, leave their parents to rot in their old age and donāt care for family relationships but they are a minority, those type of people mostly come from Minstrel families who know no values or religion, most Pakis are not like that and donāt associate with those peopleā¦ Recently media in Pak is glamorising and promoting Western lifestyles but I hope to God theyāre not successful because our traditional Muslim/Paki ways/values are far superior. Western society is very glittery but very hollow and cold, it doesn't compare to the warmth, security and belonging that a Muslim/Paki society provides...
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If the majority of westerners drank till incoherent as you say, then this country would not be a superpower. The "incoherents" that you see outside the bars are either drunks from "the wrong side of the tracks" or the out-of control college frats trying to out-do each other. The vast majority of the population is not like this. Go to a large-scale white collar company - a financial institution, a trading firm, accounting firm and take a look there. You have to experience and see the type of life that the MAINSTREAM public lives before you go passing judgement. PS here Confuzz....in order to get a white collar job in the west, you need to pass a drug test. Fail once and you're blackballed. If you get drunk at the company holiday party, you'll find yourself hitting the "glass ceiling" before the new year. So as far as my "sugarcoating" life in the west, I have to say that it truly IS sugarcoated when you're part of mainstream, white-collar amrika yeah? And I do NOT bash Desi culture at every opportunity as you seem to imply. As I've said many, many times before, I respect the culture and the country - with all its good AND all its bad. BOTH east and west have their troubles. Just because I'm gori I guess I'm forbidden to notice troubles in Desi-land? While I AM allowed to notice the good things?
To say that Paki ways are "far superior" is just hogwash - and a racist statement. Both ways of life have good and bad. Its up to each individual to do their OWN good or bad and not worry about or judge others, yeah?
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I dont think it is hard to practice your religion in UK at all. But it all depends how serious you take it.
I am saying this becuase I have lived there with my hulya as Dubai guppies know; very similiar to those who are not liked in the world now a days. And Alhamdollilah I had absolutely no problem there.
I can do a long discussion with reasons on this point but I am sorry just dont got energy to type rite now.
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Yes, its very difficult.
Majority of People are Athesits and Materialistic minds and oppose any religious laws.
Constant media attacks on Islam associated with terrorism.
Practising your faith when working for someone is diffcult getting time away for prayers, fasting times, jummah etc.
Glad to help.
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Well I had totally opposite experience.
Never had any problem to go for prayers or Jumma or fasting during my work at more than one work places. Rather everyplace I worked had prayer room.
Similary last Ramadhan I went to a complete white area in North Wales and the B&B took care of my sehri.
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If you think you're living in a place filled with atheists and drunkards, etc as you accuse white people to basically be, then why are you living in those countries?
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Well I had totally opposite experience.
Never had any problem to go for prayers or Jumma or fasting during my work at more than one work places. Rather everyplace I worked had prayer room. Similary last Ramadhan I went to a complete white area in North Wales and the B&B took care of my sehri.
That's sweet.
I'm going to generalise/stereotype here but I've found Gaelic/Celtic speaking people (Welsh/Irish/Scottish) are warmer and friendlier than other Brits... I've known a few Welsh people and it's like they don't even notice you're a different skin color, it's quite humbling..
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If you think you're living in a place filled with atheists and drunkards, etc as you accuse white people to basically be, then why are you living in those countries?
Probably because we're born here and have no choice? I personally can't wait to move to Pak (sometime this yr Insha Allah), of course my reasons aren't purely because Western lifestyle contradicts my religion because lots of religions have rules and regulations, you just learn to compromise (I sometimes read a Jewish-Fatwa site and their religion is far more incompatible with Christian/Gentile ways) but my main reasons are hostility towards us in the media and amongst the people (thanks to the media), itās actually that what makes us more conscious of our religious identity..
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Azim's first point is glaringly ignorant and completely false. The majority of Brits are CHRISTIAN and follow CHRISTIAN laws (which are not ALL that different from true Islaamic laws.
The 2nd point is debatable.
The 3rd I doubt also. If you work for a reputable company, you will and should be given your time to pray and your time off on appropriate holidays. In Britain as well as in America, there are always cultural and sensitivity training seminars given to employees - who are REQUIRED to attend. If you work for a corner deli or a mom-and-pop type of operation, this may not apply but white collar jobs, for sure.
In your other thread, 786, you specifically mentioned drug use as a major factor. You may want to reconsider that. The majority of citizens in the western world are not drug users. They do, however, consume alcoholic beverages and do not consider it a big deal. The western outlook on and use of alcohol however is very different from the way its used in Pakistan. When theres alcohol over there, the guys tend to drink until incoherent. In the west, people can go out after work, have a beer or 2 and then go home with a slight buzz on. No puking, falling down, passing out. Not that I'm saying its a GOOD or BAD thing, its just different from what you're implying.
I totally agree with this every decent company is ding that even intell has a prayer room in their office and lots of people are going there in shalwaar qameez and noone minds that.They are diverse and they don't object such things.
It is never problem for my hub on saying his prayers in office and jumah prayers.
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Salaams all,
I have to agree with mamaof3. In Britain and America people bend over backward to make sure muslims don't feel insulted or aggrieved.
There was even a case in a couple of British towns in which they banned people from celebrating christmas openly because some muslims complained. Can you imagine what would have happenned if they had told us not to clebrate eid?
I honestly feel that we try and make more out of small things than they really are.
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i dont get how white ppl drinking is a hardship for u to practise islam in the west?? U dont drink, let them do what they want...... just stay away from pubs and clubs whats it to u??
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My brother boss was an Irish in London - drinking too much every afternoon but always sent my brother forcefully for Juma prayers.
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I can't say it for Britian as I never lived there...but if you talk about west....I'd say its not difficult. I live in germany...n although I do face some problems but i still don't find it hard or difficult. I go out with veil n gown....covering my face...n I'm confident that a majority respects m for what I am.
Practicing anything can be difficult, it depends however, on what is the description of 'difficulty' for you.
I've had the multiple incidents of facing the cursing, spitting etc. but its not my faith which asks these people to do this. Its just the negativity in those few individuals...n who cares about their problems.
Infact now I'm often quite doubtful about the products in Pak....you never know what you are eating...even the labels can be wrong. But here, although I've comparatively limited options but I'm at ease to think i'm eating right.