I’d like to know what the attitude of desis is regarding this method of having babies. Is it considered taboo? or are their actually in vitro clinics in Pakistan? are desis trying such methods, or are they still sticking to the pir sahib’s phook? any info regarding this topic?
How about you people’s attitute towards? Would people here want to undergo such a trajectory?
Could you please explain exactly what it is?
couples who can't get kids, have several options to get them still. one of them being IVF.
Sperm is taken from a man (if possible from the husband....but there are also sperm donation banks). a hyper-menstruation is simulated in the wife using hormones; during ovulation dozens of eggs are removed from the body. Using the sperm and the eggs, they are fertilized in the laboratory (=IVF). After fertilization a varying number of fertilized eggs/embryos are placed back into the womb....and there a child (/children, cuz often there are twins with such a procedure) evolves
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. If a couple can't have kids for whatever reasons and they really want a child and are willing to go through with all the tests and possible disappointments (cause I know these things don't always work the first few times), then there is nothing wrong with it. Ultimately, it is up to the couple. I think it can be heavy, emotionally, but if the couple are strong enough to go through with it, then I would wish them all the best.
Isn't test tube babies the same thing or it's different from what you are telling us?
I don't think it's a taboo :)
I think it would be ok if the sperm and the egg was the couples.
I don't know if I'll for something like that....is this method painful?
From what I understand in Islaam, it would not be taboo to use IVF as a method of conception as long as the sperm of the father is used. I think it would also be ok to use a donor egg (so that the biologiocal mother is different). Its the paternity that is important. As far as my personal attitude, I would do anything to have children! I did have some trouble with getting my first one - needed some hormone stimulation in order to make eggs but since that worked, I didnt have to go the extreme of IVF. But IVF is the answer to prayers of many couples who could not otherwise have a precious baby. Doesnt matter how sperm meets egg! You wont see many (or any) IVF clinics in Pak because the procedure is very expensive - around $12,000. US per cycle. Also, I would imagine that the men in Pak would not be very willing to go thru with it since they would have to go to the clinic at the proper time and provide a fresh sperm sample in a cup for them to use. Not something many Pak men would be willing to do. Sad thing is that 70 percent of infertility problems are sperm-related - they have tails that are too short or they cant penetrate the egg etc. So these guys discard first wife, get a "new" one and still have the same problem. Anyway, thats kind of off the subject. Someone else asked whether its painful. There is the first 3 weeks of daily hormone injections for the wonan which isnt pleasant but its not too bad. Then there is the egg removal which is a surgical procedure. They go in thru the belly button with a needle, but local anesthetics are used so not much pain other than the needle. When the fertilized eggs are ready, they are injected thru the cervix so that isnt more painful than a typical yearly exam. I worked for a fertility specialist for a while and so know of these procedures pretty well and wish anyone going thru fertility problems the very best of success.
We (my family) know of an Indian couple who tried for the longest time to have kids, but then opted for invitro fertilization and now have two beautiful baby boys (twins).
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Isn't test tube babies the same thing or it's different from what you are telling us?
I don't think it's a taboo :)
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same thing
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From what I understand in Islaam, it would not be taboo to use IVF as a method of conception as long as the sperm of the father is used. I think it would also be ok to use a donor egg (so that the biologiocal mother is different). Its the paternity that is important.
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can you provide your reasoning or any link behind this???
Whether it’s Islamic or not, this method is sort of God’s mercy to women and men who can’t have kids.
Thanks for explaining. Really appreciated. 
To NeSCio, hello, I read an english translation of the Koran and also a book on Islaamic practices. Both went into inheritance and who gets what passed down. These inheritance rules are pretty detailed and include specific exclusions to "orphans" - adoption isnt recognized. Thats why I think that in Islaam, it would be frowned upon for a father to have a child that is not biologically his. Dont know for sure, just an assumption based on the things that I read.
Re: In vitro fertilization
Is it considered taboo?
No. Not in educated families. I personally know quite a few cases. Dunno about illiterate masses. Its pretty expensive so I doubt if its available in villages etc.
*or are their actually in vitro clinics in Pakistan? *
Yes. Dr Rashid Latif Clinic in Lahore is pretty famous. There are others too. In major cities, atleast.
are desis trying such methods
Yes
, or are they still sticking to the pir sahib's phook?
Some still may.
*How about you people's attitute towards? *
A baby is a baby.
Would people here want to undergo such a trajectory?
If they are not having babies the normal way, this is just a medical solution. Its less drastic and less complicated than adoption, so I would assume, if a couple is unsuccesful doing it the normal way, they should consider IVF before going for adoption.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
What's your pov on this NesCio?:)
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They go in thru the belly button with a needle, but local anesthetics are used so not much pain other than the needle
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err my bro in law is a anestesiologist, according to him a belly button is NOT where they go in from. although that may seem like a more pleasant answer...kinda like storks bring babies..
^MF: I wudn’t see what’s wrong with taking the belly button as the place to insert the needle: It makes a cosmetically beautiful scar! only reason of concern wud be its in the middle whereas the ovaries are next to the middle. But then again if u do it in the middle only one incision is needed.
but of the different methods available, the trans-vaginal is used most often
Mamaof3: u say 70% of the infertility probs are sperm related 
I’ve learnt that 33% is caused by the male, 33 by the wife, and 33 are unexplained