…Years ago I was used to post and read in this religion section, but after so many things I stopped and left this place and did concentrate my self just in fun sections only for my very own resons! anyway, Today I am here after years, just with simple question!
My questions are!
What are the differences b/w Quadiani, Mirzai and Ahmadi ?
What are the basic reasons Govt of Pakistan had declared them Non- Muslim ?
How they differ in daily practice with Muslims ?
Please continue your discussion with references!
I would really appreciate you all for giving very straight and to the point details! I am not expecting very lengthy discussion, moroever Mod or Admin I don’t want any panga here! thanks a lot in advance for your inputs!
Jazak-Allah
hain u want us to recap all those question only because u were not interested in religion section.. this request is just like Bush threatening a war with Iraq!
.. check a very interesting post just below ur post about Qadiani peopel and how they perceive other muslims...
Yar degas sorry for trouble, but do summarise and in short please do tell here, trust me I can't read all those lengthy discussions now a days, thanks :) just gimme 5 mints and you will be done ...
Re: In very simple and easy words do tell me please ...
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What are the differences b/w Quadiani, Mirzai and Ahmadi ?
What are the basic reasons Govt of Pakistan had declared them Non- Muslim ?
How they differ in daily practice with Muslims ?
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Just to keep the discussion on the right track, here are some answers.
These terms are used inter-changably. To what I know, they prefer to be called "Ahmadi" and not the other two.
The basic premise for declaring them non-muslim was that they believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet, whereas decision-makers believed that there can be no prophet after Prophet Muhammad (Salal-laho-alehai was'salam), and thus those who believe in another prophet after him is a non-muslim.
Nothing much, to what I know. Except I believe all ahmadis, the world over, contribute a specified amount of money from their income towards a central fund maintained by their leadership, similar to Agha Khanis.
Your questions are very general & will open a whole new Pandora box of other questions. These kind of discussions have been started before (please search them if you like) about Ahmadis as well as others & they do not seem to end in a pleasant way. Just a few posts down the road & the discussion go in tangents with people copy/pasting stuff, calling names etc.
So, if you want to know about Ahmadiyyat, do a search on any search engine (I prefer google). There you will find Ahmadis “official” sites as well as those who have made day & night one to propagate against them. You will have more than ample information on both sides of the argument-something that would keep an interested man busy for weeks or even months.
Usually people only read one side & not search the answer on the other websites, I hope you will not make that mistake. Afterwards, if you find something specific that you need to be addressed, please do share with us here.
I as an Ahmadi cannot guarantee that I will have all the answers but I will try my best to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
Ahmajee,
if you read my last lines in first post, you said what I wrote,
ok compiling the discussion, now just gimme in yes or No
as Faisal bhai said, and we muslims also believe in that,
' The basic premise for declaring them non-muslim was that they believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet'; ( qoute from Faisal )
just answer it in YES or NO!
then I am done and you may close this thread, even if you deny it thanx!
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As an ahmadi, I can answer this question:
YES, we believe Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet (ummati nabi) means, he did not bring his own sharia'at, instead repeated the same message (i.e, Islam)as was told to us by Hadhrat Muhammad (pbuh).
Now this may raise many questions like why is there a need for another prophet when we have everything in Quran and Hadith etc etc. But I am not going into the detail as these questions have been raised and answered so many times before.
YES, we believe Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet (ummati nabi) means, he did not bring his own sharia'at, instead repeated the same message (i.e, Islam)as was told to us by Hadhrat Muhammad (pbuh).
Now this may raise many questions like why is there a need for another prophet when we have everything in Quran and Hadith etc etc. But I am not going into the detail as these questions have been raised and answered so many times before.
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okie Zaki ,
I appreciate for a 'to the point' answer, now I am done , and there is no need to argue more and justify you wrong at all it seems useless,
as I will go with the decision of Pak Govt. no harsh feelings plz,
and now no more ponits left for further discussion as well, I should pray , and thats it, I am done!
just a friendly request, we human are nothing at all, all and all is Allah and his guidense which HE has given thorugh His 'LAST' Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him ); just give yourself some moments to think what Human is! and what Allah want from us...
I think I should not raise any points cuz it might be useless here, okie just forget it! and very special thanx for admitting what you wrote!
YES, we believe Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet (ummati nabi) means, he did not bring his own sharia'at, instead repeated the same message (i.e, Islam)as was told to us by Hadhrat Muhammad (pbuh).
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I am just wondering something here.
If Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is teaching the same thing that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) brought then on what basis you consider him as Prophet(Rasul) ?
I thought each Prophet (Rasul) must have Risala (message)
