In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

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The Western World has gained absolutely nothing by allowing Muslims and Arabs to immigrate to their countries.

If these people dont clean up their acts, I wouldnt blame these people wanting to kick us out.....

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*When you run into 15 Americans in a row who are as dumb as nails, then I *would hope that the next person you run into would be intelligent, but still ignorant ;) **

Maybe you are running into the wrng type of americans, and that says more about who you meet tha what they are like. A country that has some of the best researchers in the world surely cant be that bad, a country that produces more academic journals and articles in a month that Canada cant matchin a decade must have some intellient people there

*Of course, and unfortunately for the US, they are barely a fraction of the population. *

a fraction is all that is needed, looking at canadian absence in anything material one can draw the conclusion that they dont havethat fraction either

*Canadians don't have a chip on their shoulder. It's actually the other way around. Americans just love to take shots at things they know nothing about, Canada is one of them. Fortunately for us, it allows for many comedians to make a decent living ;) *

really, when canadians clutch at straws and talk about the ignorant american, while the world outside toronto etc is a vast wasteland of ignorance, thats amusing.

Americans should just learn to live with the fact that they are regarded as the most ignorant nation on the face of the earth, and not have a chip on their shoulder because nobody respects them

and others who are jealous should learn to live with the fact that US contributes more ranging from breakthoughs in medicine, economics, software, in one year than Canada can even imagine putting together in 2 dceades

Americans need to realize that there is a world beyond their borders, which is a major problem. It's kind of scary how people end up with that mentatlity over there. Makes you wonder what they hell they teach children in school.

And Canada needs to realize that sitting like a poodle and not doing anything material to impact the global scene is a cowards way out. Canada seems to not care about a world beyond its borders by its apathy, byits lack of voice and lack of effort to do anything of material benefit in the global issues.

Haven't read them, maybe you can provide the links.

If you can google news and unearth vidoes on youtube, surely you can pull up canadian poll information as well.

For every one person that dislikes Muslims in Canada, there are 50 that want them branded in the US ;)

I am not surprised that as a Canadian you were unable to follow the stats and see the transition in the story. Now as far as dislike goes, in sheer numbers..maybe true but US has a much larger population than canada, similarly thus more americans have favorable views than canadians. Now if we look at percentage of population the story gets interesting, as I said, go read some of your own canadian polls, you knwo canadians being all aware and what nots..seems liek canadians know more about US then they bother to learn about their own country.

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Your location also seems to be toronto and you are bhopali, should i assume that you are an immigrant. So what has western world gained from your immigration which it has not gained from Muslims. Chintu you seem to me kind of a nut, not a well balanced Indian who i generally come across here in states.

About identification, if the majority in US wants me to carry some identification so be it, i will carry or i will return back to my country if i do not like carrying one. I mean Zimmies in Islam also have to carry some identity. Why so fuss, i would proudly wear that identity. Even beard and hijab are kind of an identity.

Yes once you start to discriminate basing on that identity than problems start, but hey problems are there to be faced, not to be worried about.

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well technically all immigrants in US should have their greencard on them at all times, and same goes for Iqama etc in KSA. so in some ways people are carrying special identification anyays but it applies to all immigrants and all foriegn workrs respectvely.

the hoax on teh talk show was a targeted special id which is a very unamerican thing

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I am unfortunate enough to deal with Americans on a daily basis. Now, these aren’t your run off the mill toothless hicks here, these are aerospace engineers. Most (not all) are the most racist people you can imagine. Not only are they racist, they like most Americans think that the Iraq war is them getting back at those “Sand Niggers” in their words for 9/11. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Good research is everywhere, it’s your fault if you choose to ignore it. That just falls into the “ignorance category”. Besides, what good are articles and journals when many Americans can’t even read.

Right one can draw that conclusion, if one is American. :wink: Again, this falls into the “ignorance” category where “Nothing is produced or even exists beyond their borders”. Quite sad.

Not outside Toronto, just south of the border. It’s amusing that the Americans are the only ones who don’t think so. The rest of the world would agree that the US is the most ignorant nation on earth. But then again, to an American, nothing exists beyond it’s borders.

Canada has done a lot globally. Just because it doesn’t end up on Fox or CNN, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

It was quite simple. I typed in “Americans ignorance” and that was the first video that popped up of many on the subject. Go ahead and type in “Canadians Ignorance”, and guess what…you’ll get the same vidoes :wink:

As an educated American, I’m quite surprised how little you know about Canada

Again, post the polls. If they’re as easy as finding American ignorance videos, then it shouldn’t be too hard for you.

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For me too. Unfortunately, it’s always an American that initiates them, and always a Canadian that finishes them.

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not surprised.a friend of mine had to shut down his store in chicago a few years after 9/11 because people stopped coming to the store upset that it was being run by a muslim family.

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I dont see many americans posting news or videos of stupid canadians…as a matter of fact they are almost always initiated by canadians..u know the chip on the shoulder and all.

but it is true that canadians usually finish the argument..usually its in the form of running away with their tail between their legs :smiley:

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I am unfortunate enough to deal with Americans on a daily basis. Now, these aren't your run off the mill toothless hicks here, these are aerospace engineers. Most (not all) are the most racist people you can imagine. Not only are they racist, they like most Americans think that the Iraq war is them getting back at those "Sand Niggers" in their words for 9/11. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Good research is everywhere, it's your fault if you choose to ignore it. That just falls into the "ignorance category". Besides, what good are articles and journals when many Americans can't even read.

Are you saying that majority of canadians do not think like that :) give me a break. your oviously biased observations are simply not some scientific evidence.

Right one can draw that conclusion, if one is American. ;) Again, this falls into the "ignorance" category where "Nothing is produced or even exists beyond their borders". Quite sad.

canadians dont even know what is going on in their own country.

*Not outside Toronto, just south of the border. It's amusing that the Americans are the only ones who don't think so. The rest of the world would agree that the US is the most ignorant nation on earth. But then again, to an American, nothing exists beyond it's borders. *

The rest of the world thinks that they are as important as US. Hey US I can understand, UK, China, Japan, sure, but some two bit also ran country just does not register with people, and that feeling that they are considered inconsequential gets them riled up, poor souls. The rest of the world has to look at the number of patents issued in US each year and then we will talk about who has the capacity to

Canada has done a lot globally. Just because it doesn't end up on Fox or CNN, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

like like . 'a lot' is pretty vague. canada does not do jack. canadian charities suck, they fund crap.

*It was quite simple. I typed in "Americans ignorance" and that was the first video that popped up of many on the subject. Go ahead and type in "Canadians Ignorance", and guess what..............you'll get the same vidoes ;) *

so you went searching for videos on american ignorance on youtube, guess someone has enough of a chip on his shoulder that he has to go look n youtube for videos to make him feel better about the inconsequential country he lives in :)

As an educated American, I'm quite surprised how little you know about Canada

I know enough, as a canadian I am astonished that you dont know about polls that took place in your own country

Again, post the polls. If they're as easy as finding American ignorance videos, then it shouldn't be too hard for you.

Oh, they are there, go look them up. looking up easy stuff on youtube does not qualify as being aware now does it. Its knowing and being aware of (not finding) real news and polls that dont always make it to CNN (you know with canada being inconsequential and all) in your own back yard. to use your own words.."Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Good research is everywhere, it's your fault if you choose to ignore it"

oh and we did see how canadians reacted in general to the arrest of ppl on that terrorist plot deal... not quite as enlightened as accepting as you would make people believe.

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Actually Canadians are even dumber than Americans

Its just that Canadians are simply not that important enough to have a psychological analysis done on them because they are not the ones electing the most powerful government institution in the world which effects the entire world

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so american public is indeed responsible for the death of 1000s of innocent iraqis and afghanis...bcos they elected the government and gave them the power to go n play target praciticing on innocent ppl in iraq n afghanistan.this means they too should suffer like others do in their countries for electing governments which do not bow down to the demands of US.

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Intersting fact I learned about the Canadians.. Whenever you cross the Candian border into Canada and your a Canadian citizen (even a brown one) they will usuallyt say "welcome home."
When you cross he US border into America and your a brown US citizen, they will ask you where you were born and then take you in for fingerprinting.

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Maybe because the Al Qaeda Terrorists didnt fly the planes into the CN tower but flew them into World Trade Center in New York killing over 3,000 Americans

Or the fact that Osama has a fatwa to kill all americans, or everyday in the muslim world people chant death to american or burn american flags, or Iran doesnt call Canada the great Satan

lets see how Canadians will react if 3,000 of their citizens are killed in a terrorist act done by arabs and muslims

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I am not even a US citizen yet but a perm resident, every time I fly back from an overseas trip..and from 2004-2005 there were many, the immigration officer always said welcome home to me.

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That’s because there are none. :wink:

Nonsense. Every “Canada Bashing” thread here on GS is initiated by an American.

Actually, running away is an American thing, and it will be proven once again in Iraq and Afghanistan. The argument is either finished by a Canadian proving American stupidity, or yes, at times with no response since the American response is simply too stupid to respond to.

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Yes, that’s what I’m saying. Since I not only deal with Americans, I deal with Canadians and Europeans. From my experience, Canadians and Europeans, at least the ones that I deal with (and I deal with a many) are respectful, and remain neutral when talking business, unlike the clasless Americans who always open their big mouths with racist and ignorant comments.

What’s going on in our country. Please do tell…is our igloo parliament melting?

Important in which regard, the comedic factor? In that case, yes, we do love our comedy over here, and without the Americans, there probably wouldn’t be any comedy here :frowning:

More US arrogance and ignorance. Canadians don’t feel inconsequential. In fact, Americans gets riled up about how little the world thinks of the US.

Actually, it was on TV, and it was funny (and the truth), so I’d figure I’d find it on youtube. Looks like it wasn’t too hard was it?

Enough is quite vague, don’t you think? If what you know about Canada equates to that of the average American in those videos, then I’m not surprised.

No, but it’s pretty funny.

When I feel the need to look at certain polls, I will do so. When someone else feels the need to prove a point to me, then I expect them to provide polls, or simply put “shut up”. Why do you care about “Canadian Polls” when you think Canada is sub-standard?

…or are you now agreeing there is good research in Canada, or do you only use it when it suits you?

Yup, I never argued that, ignorance and hatred is everwhere, but not to the degree it is in the US. It’s really that simple.

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I’ll never forget the clients we had come in from Chicago many years ago, flying in with winter clothing by there side in mid July thinking that it might get below the freezing mark. As if there is some sort of climate wall at the border.

Too funny…

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That's because there are none. ;)

right

*Nonsense. Every "Canada Bashing" thread here on GS is initiated by an American. *

I dont see many threads that start with canada bashing, i see threads where canadians start yip yapping and then get told off

*Actually, running away is an American thing, and it will be proven once again in Iraq and Afghanistan. *

and you run on to a tangent since there is no real response, :P

The argument is either finished by a Canadian proving American stupidity, or yes, at times with no response since the American response is simply too stupid to respond to.

Or beyond the mental capabilities of a canadian, afterall you lot are not known for intelligence. The vast patches of nothingness eminating from the collective canadian efforts in their contribution towards anything...is telling.

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I don’t think we would murder 100,000 people as a result of it, like the Americans terrorists have.

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What's going on in our country. Please do tell....is our igloo parliament melting?

just liusten to your prime minister for a change, i know people really dont pay much attention to him on the world stage, btu even canadians dont listen to him, wow.

*Important in which regard, the comedic factor? In that case, yes, we do love our comedy over here, and without the Americans, there probably wouldn't be any comedy here :( *

well atleast someone likes canadian comedy, not quite a big name in entertainment though are you guys.

**More US arrogance and ignorance. Canadians don't feel inconsequential. In fact, Americans gets riled up about how little the world thinks of the US./ B]

canadians dont feel inconsequential, yet they are inconsequential, thus the huge chip on the shoulder ;)

*Actually, it was on TV, and it was funny (and the truth), so I'd figure I'd find it on youtube. Looks like it wasn't too hard was it? *

oh yes youtube yet another US invention that makes it easy to find clips :) no I bet it was not too difficult.

Enough is quite vague, don't you think? If what you know about Canada equates to that of the average American in those videos, then I'm not surprised.

insulting me or crying 'vague' does not change the fact that yoiu dont know the results of the polls in your own country, and then you go give the big talk about ..ignorance of all things

*When I feel the need to look at certain polls, I will do so. When someone else feels the need to prove a point to me, then I expect them to provide polls, or simply put "shut up". Why do you care about "Canadian Polls" when you think Canada is sub-standard? *

awwwwww touchy touchy. wel when many americans will feel the need that they really ned to bother with canada, they will do so as well. what point did you prove dude, posting a youtube video. Why do I care about canadian polls because I am in touch with people in msulism groups in canada who keep me appriased, not onl that I know the events in europe. Now be a good boy and instead of telling people to shut up, go and read about your own country and its polls. I mean how can one debate with a person who will cry that americans dont know anything about his country, while he himself has not bothered to read up on current events..

......or are you now agreeing there is good research in Canada, or do you only use it when it suits you?

typical canadian :) les make the answer simple
1) R&D in canada is horrible, it is not a country known for excellence and breakthorugh research
2) media monitoring is not the same thing as 'research' going on in a country

Yup, I never argued that, ignorance and hatred is everwhere, but not to the degree it is in the US. It's really that simple.

what is the excuse for canadian ignroance and hatred?