there is no use fighting over religion. in my opinion most of the people here are only trying to challenge each others religion rather than thinking with an open mind and using logics.
in my opinion the best thing is:
you do what you feel like and i'll be the way i am.
this fighting won't get you anywhere.
This is precisely what I am asking.
How are u going to prove one religion or other? They are not scientific theories that can be experimentally verified. Most of them deal with after death stuff that none has clue about unless some ghosts are registered in gupshup.
One can say that individuals practicing religion A are more civilized, more open minded and better human beings than those practicing religion B. That is an observational inference.
yah peydaishi idiots.....so aren't u glad that ur mirza came to ur resuce then? why keep jumping' around against Islam every now & then?. Who's going to get hellfire, don't worry about that.... for you, it should be enuff that Muslims don't give a hoot to some renegade nincompoops like u & ur cult.
And as for the filth.... sweetheart, filth was started by a british agent back in 1800s...so who's still praising/preaching that filth? go figure!
KK, go and read a post in General section about Arabs, and see how much “your” Arab brothers give a hoot about you. The proof is in the pudding and see how much your brothers are giving a hoot about your type here. They don’t even want to be associated with refrigerator and bubbly. Reading their (and your) posts is like listening to a Khutba. Your style indicates that you were educated at Al-Azhar, and Bubly and Fridge at Jamia-Naeemia, both snake-pits of the first class. Your only indemnity is conversion to one of the other sects of Islam (you have plenty to choose from), which ever one you belongs to is a dog’s rear-end.
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi:
**Strongman writes:
Irrefragable initially posted in a topic
Islaam has abrogated all previous religions. If you believe in anything other than book are true come and bring your proof. Universal message of Islaam has put all Islaam, you must save yourself from eternal hellfire. If you think your religion and other books and religions in basket # 13. Fact is that Judaism and Christianity have no divine inspiration; so does the names Jews and Christians. Do you know that Jesus (P) was an Arab Muslim.
Now tell me, us being muslims, did he say anything so horrible or terrible???<<<<<<<
Abrogation of all religions, hellfire for all non-Muslims (how about Hellfire for all Muslims?), Christianity and Jews without divinity (How about Islam with a false book?). Do these things mean anything to you? or are you born with Islamic blindfold on your eyes like your other brothers.**
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"Pray tell us, if you're capable of manufacturing lies and excuses on such short notice, about Islaam and Noble Quran that ” Abrogation of all religions, hellfire for all non-Muslims (how about Hellfire for all Muslims?), Christianity and Jews without divinity (How about Islam with a false book?). Do these things mean anything to you? or are you born with Islamic blindfold on your eyes like your other brothers.”
In the course of any debate one must put forth one's source for any statement/s made. To do otherwise is a primary indicator that the subject is unaccustomed to intelligent discussion. What is required from you, if you are genuine in your wish for debate, are references for what you say.
You said “how about the hellfire for all Muslims?” One answer to this statement, without recourse to reference of course, is that all believers will go to heaven. You choose to see and say what you choose to see/say as an ** Ahmadi, ** without any proof, a rational person would say because for a Muslim it is an inexcusable sin. That you should not jump to conclusions but to consider other arguments or points.
This is again dealt with in my response given above, i.e. that your argument is clouded by irrational hatred of an entire group of people. This is the favored position of the racist, the employment of propaganda, that a group of people can be caricatured in a certain manner then be open to hate and repression. Hitler would have been proud of your statements.
"How about Islam with a false book?"
This is quite remarkable and indicates the turmoil that your mind is in; one minute you are hatred personified the other you show reason. Please see your statement, in the next breath as it were, where you say that the Quran, which is the basis for Islam, is nothing but a tissue of lies. You will have to make your mind up on a simple point, which is it is Islam good or bad? Once you have made your mind up, please hold to your decision.
" Do these things mean anything to you? or are you born with Islamic blindfold on your eyes like your other brothers.”
Should I respond to this, is it worthy of mention, ... naaaah!
Bubble Buster
"The true EVIL lies in IGNORANCE, not in suspicion."
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Originally posted by ZZ:
**This is precisely what I am asking.
How are u going to prove one religion or other? They are not scientific theories that can be experimentally verified. Most of them deal with after death stuff that none has clue about unless some ghosts are registered in gupshup.
One can say that individuals practicing religion A are more civilized, more open minded and better human beings than those practicing religion B. That is an observational inference.**
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Listen asshole:
You have no fucking clue of theology and religions. You are dumb as a brick. Your profound ignorance about Islaam is equal to Mt. Everest. If you would have some education and knowledge about Islaam, you would have not opened your mouth like your ass. Fact is that you ass is connected with your fucking brain like a Siamese twin and cannot be separated. That is why what the fuck comes out from your mouth stinks, in this case mouse.
Bubble Buster
"The true EVIL lies in IGNORANCE, not in suspicion."
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi:
*KK, go and read a post in General section about Arabs, and see how much “your” Arab brothers give a hoot about you. The proof is in the pudding and see how much your brothers are giving a hoot about your type here. They don’t even want to be associated with refrigerator and bubbly. Reading their (and your) posts is like listening to a Khutba. Your style indicates that you were educated at Al-Azhar, and Bubly and Fridge at Jamia-Naeemia, both snake-pits of the first class. Your only indemnity is conversion to one of the other sects of Islam (you have plenty to choose from), which ever one you belongs to is a dog’s rear-end. *
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Listen Supreme Idiot of GupShup:
If you cannot make any sense, don't make non-sense. Don't concern your fuckingself who gives a hoot to us and who don't. Bottom line is that we don't give a hoot to you fucking Kuffar. For Muslims Allah and his Rassol and Noble Quran are enough. We have survived 1420 years against all odds and against motherfuckers like you. So remember this we are survivers and we will survive, inSha-Allah. You think about your fucking pseudo-Islamic cult.
Bubble Buster
"The true EVIL lies in IGNORANCE, not in suspicion."
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So for the word:
"fuck" and "fucking" used 7 times in this thread.
"ass" and "asshole" used 5 times....still counting.
oops....let me ask my family to read this thread. They might not have seen such a colorful use of these words before...or should I take the printout home, Azkar paahji? sighs and sighs
CM
Sigh
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Originally posted by ChannMahi:
**So for the word:
"fuck" and "fucking" used 7 times in this thread.
"ass" and "asshole" used 5 times....still counting.
oops....let me ask my family to read this thread. They might not have seen such a colorful use of these words before...or should I take the printout home, Azkar paahji? sighs and sighs
CM**
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Was it possible for you to born without your father fucking your mom? If people wouldn't have ass, what you and your people would have kissed? Like you are kissing American ass right now. Ass is a noun and fuck is a verb. This is what American Heritage Dictionary says about these words.
fuck (f¾k) Obscene. v. fucked, fuck·ing, fucks. --tr. 1. To have sexual intercourse with. 2. To victimize. 3. Used in the imperative as a signal of angry dismissal. --intr. 1. To engage in sexual intercourse. 2. To act wastefully or foolishly. --fuck n. 1. An act of sexual intercourse. 2. A partner in sexual intercourse. 3. A despised person. --fuck interj. Used to express extreme displeasure. --phrasal verbs. fuck off. 1. Used in the imperative as a signal of angry dismissal. 2. To spend time idly. 3. To masturbate. fuck over. To treat unfairly; take advantage of. fuck up. 1. To bungle. 2. To act carelessly, foolishly, or incorrectly. [Middle English, attested in pseudo-Latin fuccant, (they) fuck, deciphered from gxddbov.]
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WORD HISTORY: The obscenity fuck is a very old word, first recorded in English in the 15th century. Age has not dimmed its shock value, even though it is seen in print much more often now than in the past. Its first known occurrence, in a poem entitled “Flen flyys” written sometime before 1500, is in code, illustrating the unacceptability of the word even then. The poem, composed in a mixture of Latin and English, satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, with the title taken from the first words of the poem, “Flen, flyys, and freris,” that is, “fleas, flies, and friars.” The line that contains fuck reads “Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk.” The Latin words “Non sunt in coeli, quia” mean “they [the friars] are not in heaven, since.” The code “gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk” is easily broken by simply writing the preceding letter in the alphabet. As we decode, we must watch for differences in the alphabet and in spelling between then and now. For g write f; for x, v (used for u and v); d, c; b, a; o, n; v, t; xx, vv (which equals w); k, i; x, v; z, y; t, s; p, o; g, f; i, h; f, e; m, l; and for k, i. This yields “fvccant [a fake Latin form] vvivys of heli.” The whole thus reads in translation: “They are not in heaven because they fuck wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge].”
ass1 (²s) n., pl. ass·es (²s“¹z). 1. Any of several hoofed mammals of the genus Equus, resembling and closely related to the horses but having a smaller build and longer ears, and including the domesticated donkey. 2. A vain, self-important, silly, or aggressively stupid person. [Middle English asse, from Old English assa, perhaps of Celtic origin, ultimately from Latin asinus.]
ass2 (²s) n., pl. ass·es (²s“¹z). Vulgar. Slang. 1.a. The buttocks. b. The anus. 2. Sexual intercourse. [Middle English ars, from Old English ears. See ors- below.]
Now if it is bad, so why it is in dictionery?
So don't fuck-up and fuck-off.
Bubble Buster
"The true EVIL lies in IGNORANCE, not in suspicion."
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dahir:
You said: "Now the classical question once again; why do you feel the need to prove to others that yours is the best religion. If it is, others will follow in any case and you don't have to force-convert them."
My response: You must have pulled it out of your ass.
Bubble Buster
"The true EVIL lies in IGNORANCE, not in suspicion."
damn damn damn...why I didn't consult my dictionery earlier.
Guess what, I just checked, even your dictionery is more colorful than mine...hehehe
CM
ps: I will ignore your comments regarding my mother and father although I was so tempted to respond. It will bring me down to your level...naah. I don't think so. Although, I hope mods and admins are enjoying our conversation after their dinners.
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