Re: In Remote Pakistan Province, a Civil War Festers
The US Civil war was at its heart one of economic systems and state rights vis-a-vis the center. It was settled conclusively in favour of the Federal entity. It is a perfect example for Pakistan. Balochistan is our rebelious region, fighting the supremacy of federal rule.
We need a Lincoln. Those expressive eyes holding the desire of the union, the fate of a nation. The unshakable belief in the territorial integrity of the country he served. Who amongst our leaders can be such a man?
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Balochistan isn't the only proince or group with grievances, plus the right way to go is to grant autonomy to the respected provinces, or atleast move forward towards that. The U.S. initially wasn't a multi-ethnic country (i mena there were blacks but they were slaves, it was predominantly white), so I still believes theres a lot more than that.
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Typical all you people who have never even been to Balochistan or even talked to a handful of Baloch people use the feudals as a scapegoat.
They are certainly not perfect but it is undeniable that the Baloch people would rather side with them than what is considered to be (rightly or wrongly) the occupying Punjabi Army.
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Real Deal are you baluchi? In fact are there any baluchi posters on gupshup? I always want to know their point of view on this (other than going to balochunity).
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Salaam, dasbz. No I am not, but spent time in Balochistan when I was posted there, and stilll go back to visit.
It is good you want to hear their point of view, that is what's needed, many people including people on this forum simply dismiss their legitimate grievances with excuses and BS.
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Although the Baloch have huge prejudices against Punjabis, their beef is still over politics.. They want more economic and political rights… The control over resources for example… This is less and ethnic conflict then a political one.
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What does provincial autonomy mean? We keep saying it, but no one actually defines it. What does this mean for Pakistan…
Do the Bugtis get complpete control over their resources? If so, how do we know they wont simply cut of the source to the rest of the country when ever they have any small gripe?
Also, how do we know this wont undermine the federal govt? How can we guarantee that the provinces wont suddenly ignore federal mandates?
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If Balochistan was so inviting like Dubai, Florida or California. If Balochis were accommodating and "tourist friendly" and still no one showed up there, only then you had a point.
It is not "Baloch people" siding with all the Sardars. I wish the picture was so black-and-white. Majority of Sardars are not mischievous trouble makers. Few of them who in fact are inciting trouble, have a long history of doing so.
Every prosperous region in the world starting from Dubai all the way to San Francisco or New York have predominantly non-native population. Had the true natives created fasad, or become bey-ghairat to hurt the new-comers, these areas would have remained the backwater regions mired in poverty and lawlessness. Look at Mogadishu. The local people remained tribal and thus suspicious of the new comers. So Mogadishu is not really the destination of the world's money.
If Balochi intellectuals move out of their Commie-Cocoon, they would set up huge tents all over Pakistan waiving "welcome to Balochistan" flags and saying oh-by-the-way bring your "master-card" along.
Baloch nationalist supporters raise their hands during a rally organised by the Balochistan National Party against the construction of Gwadar Port and military operations in Balochistan. Online
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It means that every province will have its say in what development projects it wants. If Bugti is elected as chief minister and wants to build a gold statue of himself rather than gwadar port then it’s not Islamabad’s problem. It’s the problem of the Balochistan government, assembly and people. We have to learn to respect people in Pakistan and not try to impose our wills on them. As long as they do not go against the constitution of Pakistan, it is their land to do what they wish. It’s a matter of respecting others, no matter what you think of them.
Provincial autonomy will not magically make things better for Balochs, but neither will forcibly imposed development projects. What it will do is build trust and respect between people of Pakistan when they realize they are all on equal footing. It will not be an easy process but the only one that can save Pakistan.
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Then it follows that all state determined projects should come STRICTLY from state funds, and the federal govt can use its resources to aid those provinces who do want development.
