In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

Seems like they are down on their luck and need someone to help them pull out of the mess & help them with the PR.

In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support
By Irfan Ghauri
Published: June 14, 2011

Armed forces’ delegation includes all three service chiefs, CJCSC and defence secretary. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
ISLAMABAD:

Amid increasing domestic and international pressure on the armed forces, Pakistan’s top political and entire military leadership huddled in Islamabad on Monday for a rare, and unannounced, gathering – in which the armed forces are said to have sought the government’s support on a number of issues.

The Presidency only issued a terse one-line statement following the meeting, saying that “the security situation was discussed”, while the Inter-Services Public Relations – the media wing of the armed forces – refrained from commenting on the high-profile meeting.

Given its timing and profile, the meeting was far from routine.

Sources claimed that the political and security implications of a possible North Waziristan military operation, which is being demanded by the US, came under discussion.

According to sources, the chiefs of the armed forces have asked the civilian leadership to take up the North Waziristan operation in parliament, similar to the time they launched a military operation in Swat two years back. They also discussed the political, monetary and security implications of such an operation, they added.

Some security analysts believe that Pakistan might opt to go for a ‘targeted’ operation in North Waziristan instead of an all-out assault, but only after the armed forces reach general consensus and political backing from the civilian leadership.

In the aftermath of the Abbottabad operation, back to back visits by US civilian and military leaders started to build pressure on Pakistan to launch a decisive operation in North Waziristan Agency, believed to be a bastion of militants hurting the international forces in Afghanistan.

CIA Director Leon Panetta’s brief visit to Pakistan over the weekend followed yet another sharp downturn in US and Pakistan relations when he shared ‘evidence of suspected collusion with pro-Afghan Taliban militants in the tribal areas’ with Pakistan’s senior military leaders, according to Time magazine.

Criticism of armed forces

Also discussed were measures to curtail the growing criticism of the armed forces by different quarters internally.

Political forces, most prominently the Pakistan Muslim League-N (PML-N) and its chief Nawaz Sharif, as well as civil society have launched scathing criticism of the security forces inside and outside parliament.

Monday’s meeting came on the heels of an unusually extensive statement issued after a military commanders meeting last week, calling for an end to a ‘slander campaign’ against the country’s armed forces by ‘unidentified elements’.

The security establishment is also concerned about the growing criticism by some political forces, media and civil society to defame the armed forces and wants the civilian government to come forward to defend them against this criticism.

The Osama bin Laden debacle, the attack on PNS Mehran in Karachi and the killing of some innocent civilians at the hands of paramilitary forces served as a catalyst for criticism against the armed forces internally.

Those attending the meeting with President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani included Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Khalid Shameem Wynne, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Noman Bashir, Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman and Secretary Defence Lt Gen (retd) Syed Athar Ali.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 14th, 2011.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

Our Great Army is sounding the bugle of the Last Post. Hurrah!! Asma Jehangir was right. God does work in mysterious ways.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

How to promote DHA business?

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

They did all the "Smart" things like jihadi policy, double game, hiding Osama etc. without asking anyone but now that s..t has hit the fan, they are hiding behind the same corrupt civilians. They talk about ghairat but is there anything more bayghairat than running back to the same people you always bashed?

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

yup!!

Its us who are in a rush to conclude when God's work is done.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

Its like first time in history Pakistani people's discontentment is reaching to army loud and clear. And since they not thick skin like politician, they are doing things to eradicate the situation.

Now our online-hungry-hawks have their brains in a loop to find things consolidating their little world of assumption. So....

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

Perhaps you guys are reading too much into it and assuming things. The military has made mistakes in the past but targeted strikes in North Waziristan will not be without any dire consequences. Let's be very clear on that first. As always the poor public will face the brunt of extremists. There will be an increase in revenge suicide and bomb attacks on military and civilian targets for sure. The operation has the potential to provoke a civil war in Pakistan and the military leadership quite rightly does not want to take all the blame in the event of things going haywire and is keen to act in N.W. only with the approval of parliament and civilian leadership (cf. Swat operation)

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

Well the ISPR one line statement… is proof enough that slowly but steadily Military mindset is changing, great job whoever took part in it, be it Osama bin Laden or United States of America.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

And it is clear that the Americans will never be pleased or satisfied with anything we do. As if the bloodbath of 40,000 Pakistanis is not enough already

What next. operation in Baluchistan!

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

I am against military rule but anyone who believes that Musharraf's coup was the last military take over in Pakistan is living in a fool's world. If not this government then the next government if not the next then the government after that...the threat of military coup will loom large so long as the corrupt and incompetent politicians do not mend their ways and start delivering on issues of health, education and economy for a change

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exactly reverse .. my blood boils whn these americans say .. "its a clear disappointment on our part .. they are not doing enough" had these american been in this situation .. phir dekhte hum!!

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besides tht NW operation .. is there any other alternative way to get rid of these savages?? there has to be some other way out!!

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

American’s been to worst then this, they capture the Osama bin Laden about 9000 miles from their shore. Our military is incompetent they lost every single war & defeated on every single battle they ever been too.
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Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

The military coup is not coming. Writing is on the wall.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

and which war has US won? :hehe:

an immediate military coup is not foreseeable but no one can ignore such possibility lets say 5 years down the road or after Kiyani is gone.

Re: In rare meeting, military brass seeks president, PM’s support

which one they lost? oh Germany/Japan/USSR/Korean/Vietnam/South America/Gulf Wars …etc..etc..

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^lets count the one after nuke :chai:

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didn’t get you captain planet :chai:

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I still wonder if military take overs in previous times..(Ayyub, Zia, Mush) were just co-incidents or they were pre-planned (may b by Pentagone), coz when Ayyub took over we gave them Bada baer (for recci on USSR) and joined SEATO, CENTO. When Zia took over Afghan war started, when Mush took over WOT started. if thats the trend then i wont rule out another military takeover since who knows when US has new plans :d.

Secondly I dont think there will b much change in military mind and setup until you change wat they are taught in military academies, i.e how to treat bloody civilians.
its the same mindset taught to civil services as well..where they dont serve the ppl, but make ppl serve them, aka colonial mindsets.