Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
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That is because of typical cunning-baniya type zehniyat of Hindooos.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
^ That is because of typical cunning-baniya type zehniyat of Hindooos.
Try enterprising, innovative, "make it with what you have" attitude. Above all, keeping the focus on making life better; rather than eyeing on neighbors property or trying to prove a point (mia culpa).
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
I think, I should stop beating around the bush. The portions that was Hindu Majority was good in creating wealth, the Muslim dominated areas were not. period. That is why India started with something and Pakistan did not and that continues even today. Please do not compare 1947 per-capita income - because it is skewed. 1/3 Pakistan is fertile Punjab, that will skew the stats.
I agree with you, HIndus were good in creating wealth even before Islamic age. Muslim invaders from central asia ; Bristish east india co. all came India because of its wealth not poverty. 200 AD to 600 AD Guptas ruled India..I gues that period is called Golden age of india.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
that is quite a stretch attributing the guptas to modern day hindus.
guptas were from what is today bihar - loot-maari central. enough said. 
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
What are Modern Day Hindus?? Are the beliefs of modern day Greeks similar to what 600AD Greeks believed in? All Modern day Greeks are Christians now…All Modern day Egyptians are Muslims. There is nothing Greek about Greeks and Nothing Egyptian about Egyptians. But I guess Hindus are still the same, a Hindu still worships the same way as they did in Guptas age…India needs to revive Hindu Baniyaism…the old Hindu enterpreneur spirit …that spirit was killed by the British Rule.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
lol what are you man - the hindu version of khilafat demanders?
if the hindus of today are the same as hindus of gupta era, how do you explain bihar being such a hellhole?
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
lol what are you man - the hindu version of khilafat demanders?
if the hindus of today are the same as hindus of gupta era, how do you explain bihar being such a hellhole?
Whats wrong in demanding Khilafat??? Did khilafat not exist?? I know its difficult to implement now. I'm still pro-khilafat.
I'm talking about the Hindu Baniya's enterpreneur spirit that was almost killed by the socialist govt of India.
Hindus should focus on becoming a Baniya rather than a sarkari naukar...Baniyas are the engine of the society.
But I guess I'm taking to Ratan Tata's legal advisor here. Ratan tata made a billion dollar business empire in that hell hole.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
firstly, ratan tata is neither hindu nor a baniya.
secondly, usually the enterprising ones are those relegate religious values to certain tiny areas of their life.
khilafat, akhand bharat etc are fairy tales that people who can't do things in this lifetime say to make it sound like their ancestors did something earlier.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
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Queer,
Why so much angst against Biharis ?
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
where is the angst? bihar is easily the most socially backward portion of entire south asia.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
[note] refrain from irrevalent discussion guys, stay on topic[/note]
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
I think, I should stop beating around the bush. The portions that was Hindu Majority was good in creating wealth, the Muslim dominated areas were not. period. That is why India started with something and Pakistan did not and that continues even today. Please do not compare 1947 per-capita income - because it is skewed. 1/3 Pakistan is fertile Punjab, that will skew the stats.
Again, as I said you do need to read the history of creation of Pakistan.
Chest thumping is not going to get you anywhere.
Since at least 1857, Muslims were seen as 'enemies' of British Raj. Their areas hardly got attention for development.
Why beat around the bush? Are you saying all idiots were living in Muslim areas?
If one compares Pakistan and India, security issue is one of the major factor what made the difference in economic growth in Pakistan. And that is only recently...despite starting with very little assets.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
Since at least 1857, Muslims were seen as 'enemies' of British Raj. Their areas hardly got attention for development.
nonsense.
brits definitely punished the regions of revolt, and started recruiting their army heavily from the areas that did not revolt. both hindus and muslims in the areas that are now UP/bihar suffered. the entire society had its knees broken. Punjab was the darling of brits. sikhs and muslims were recruited in vast numbers into the army to keep their own people in check. your "history" is more a fairy tale, diwana pal. read something that wasnt published by zia ul haq and co.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
Since at least 1857, Muslims were seen as 'enemies' of British Raj. Their areas hardly got attention for development.
Why beat around the bush? Are you saying all idiots were living in Muslim areas?
Punjab has always been majority Muslim, yet Punjab became the breadbasket of India thanks to British canals...
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
nonsense.
brits definitely punished the regions of revolt, and started recruiting their army heavily from the areas that did not revolt. both hindus and muslims in the areas that are now UP/bihar suffered. the entire society had its knees broken. Punjab was the darling of brits. sikhs and muslims were recruited in vast numbers into the army to keep their own people in check. your "history" is more a fairy tale, diwana pal. read something that wasnt published by zia ul haq and co.
Punjab has always been majority Muslim, yet Punjab became the breadbasket of India thanks to British canals...
Fail to see what Punjabis being in army has to do with very few industries in Muslim majority areas.
You two need to at least read what is being discussed. :D
By the way (off topic), after 1857 event, more European soldiers were appointed to make the ratio of two Indians per one European soldier.
Muslims land owners lands were confiscated but Govt. supported Hindus to satisfy '**divide and rule' **policy.
Muslims of India paid a very high price for 1857 event.
One can discuss this elsewhere anytime.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
To sum up here,
Pakistan has done a marvelous job (but yet to continue) since 1947, considering the odds against its favor.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
Fail to see what Punjabis being in army has to do with very few industries in Muslim majority areas.
You two need to at least read what is being discussed. :D
By the way (off topic), after 1857 event, more European soldiers were appointed to make the ratio of two Indians per one European soldier.
Muslims land owners lands were confiscated but Govt. supported Hindus to satisfy '**divide and rule' **policy.
Muslims of India paid a very high price for 1857 event.
One can discuss this elsewhere anytime.
I don't know about that. As far as i know, the reason why Pakistan, has always had feudalism so engrained within its society is because the British supported wealthy feudal families and helped create the feudal society we have today.
Many Muslims in Pakistan today have land due to their patronage of the British Raj.
I read what the topic is, it seems you don't know what your talking about... As always.
Just the rantings of a Muslim with a chip on his shoulder.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
nonsense.
brits definitely punished the regions of revolt, and started recruiting their army heavily from the areas that did not revolt. both hindus and muslims in the areas that are now UP/bihar suffered. the entire society had its knees broken. Punjab was the darling of brits. sikhs and muslims were recruited in vast numbers into the army to keep their own people in check. your "history" is more a fairy tale, diwana pal. read something that wasnt published by zia ul haq and co.
There were very few punjabis in the Brit army after the 1857 war, they started recruiting them around the first world war and by the second world war there were a significant number in their army. The reason might again be to remove their polarization and divide and rule (pacify the areas which were mostly against them).
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Punjab has always been majority Muslim, yet Punjab became the breadbasket of India thanks to British canals...
While the British gave us our canal system and railways, but still I believe that Punjab and Northern India have always been rich, and that was the reason for frequent invasions in the region.
Re: In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields
My dear the discussion is about difference in progress in Pakistan and India. I made a case of difference between Pakistan and India at the time of division (1947) in terms of number of industries/available assets.
You have missed this point in your previous post.
Yes a lot of feudal families, princes/Rajas were given relaxation or assurances to appease them so 1857 event never happens again.
But this discussion or army having Punjabis or not, are totally different topics.
You need to read the previous few posts before jumping in and start completely new direction.
My post towards KatDaddy remains. 