Imran: We need to talks lo the Taliban. War is no solution.

In another thread I was discussing Imran’s policies regarding Taliban and how miserably flawed they eventually turned out to be. This however may not be a surprise since he had another miserably failed policies like that container drama.

Anyway, see this article. It is not too old. It sums up Imran’s approach pretty well. And gives us another reason why we should think twice before falling for his confidently put hollow arguments.

Just like many common folks, Imran was also fooled by Talbanic argument that they were only fighting American aggressors, and war against Taliban is imposed by America.

Imran Khan: ?We need to talk to the Taliban. War is no solution? | Asia | News | The Independent
Imran Khan: ‘We need to talk to the Taliban. War is no solution’

The former cricket legend and opposition leader has been branded pro-extremist for his opposition to military action, he tells Omar Waraich in Islamabad

Mr Khan has long insisted that there is no military solution to the conflict and that further military offensives will only lead to more collateral damage, spark reprisal bombings in Pakistan’s main cities, and add to the already ruinous toll exacted on the country’s economy.
I was against this war from 2001 onwards,” Mr Khan told The Independent, in an interview last week at his hilltop hacienda just outside Islamabad. “In 2004, in my speech to parliament I warned General Musharraf not to send the Pakistan army into Waziristan, because of the history of these tribal people.”

Mr Khan, the leader of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party (Movement for Justice), insists that the only way out of the seven-year long conflict that has cost tens of thousands of Pakistani lives is through a lasting peace agreement.
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“I’m against an operation in North Waziristan,” Mr Khan said, referring to plans for the Pakistan armed forces to strike what is seen as the most dangerous of its seven tribal areas along the Afghan border, home to a hornets’ nest of militants. “I think it’ll exacerbate the situation. My belief is that the best thing now is talks. The talks are mainly about disengaging from the American war.

Mr Khan’s many critics concede that his view has been consistent. But many commentators and analysts also see it as “naive” and “too soft” on the Taliban. A common criticism is that Mr Khan angrily denounces US drone strikes and protests against them, but doesn’t have the same reaction when militants kill even more civilians in the bombing campaigns.
In a widely read article that went viral last week, the noted columnist Cyril Almeida argued that Mr Khan had used his fame, good looks, and charisma to give extremism an acceptable face.
“The problem with Khan,” Mr Almeida wrote, “the problem for all of us, is as simple as it’s ugly: he has mainstreamed extremism.”

Re: Imran: We need to talks lo the Taliban. War is no solution.

can you please clean your post as it is hard to read with all these brackets and what not…or try posting the link
thx

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Army started to go after Taliban with more vigor after APS tragedy. But, guess what, Imran STILL was shamelessly demanding talks with them. Talk about stubbornness to the point of ridiculousness.
Oh, I forgot. Taliban are ‘Apnay log’.

Imran Khan still backs talks with TTP - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
PESHAWAR: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan has again reiterated his stance that negotiations with the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) should be initiated.

“If America can negotiate with the Afghan Taliban, Pakistan and Afghanistan should also negotiate with them (Taliban),” said Imran while speaking to the media after meeting members of Army Public School (APS) Shuhada Forum.


Just look at his pathetic reasoning for demanding talks even when they had killed the nation’s children. He thinks that if America can talk to Taliban in Afghanistan then so can we.
He does not realize that America wants to leave Afg. And it does not care what monstrous laws Taliban inflict on Afghan society, as long as they guarantee security of America. But Pakistan would have to deal with them all the time.
America can even support Daesh if they promise not to attack the West. In that case, America would not care about what Daesh do to their subjects.
After all, America is a firm supporter of another Daesh/Taliban country, called Saudi Arabia.

So this argument from Imran is as flawed as his previous many arguments.


BTW, please do read the comments under that article in Dawn. Very entertaining.

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Interestingly PTI had also announced bounty on Taliban chief:

Pakistan announces Rs 10 million bounty for Taliban chief - Rediff.com India News

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yeah, time will finally show that Imran was on the wrong side of history in regards to his stand on taliban and demands to continue talking to them. he is not a taliban supporter like JUI or other mullahs and PTI is not a religious fundamentalist party..actually other thanImran, rest of the PTI is ideologically anti-PTI. it was only imran who just kept on saying “muzakrat karo, muzakrat karo” with these animals.

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just listen to Khan..he is bad mouthing Pakistan army in favor of taliban. he is calling pak army operation extra judicial killing and killing taliban a crime against humanity..also labeling Pakistani army claims of killing taliban wrong and false…la howla walla quwata billah

this is the shameless stand he took for so long and confused his supporters.

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Yeah we all know Imran Khan was on the wrong side, but whats the point to bring the topic now, have he repeated the blunder??? Said something again??

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iss baat ka jawab to khojie bhai jan hee day sktay hain.....

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It really is interesting. I think other PTI leaders try to put some sense to the madness. Like what MQM people do with Altaf’s ramblings.

See this:
PTI distances itself from Imran’s Taliban office statement - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
“PTI distances itself from Imran’s Taliban office statement.”

Re: Imran: We need to talks lo the Taliban. War is no solution.

As I mentioned in the beginning of the thread, I was discussing these points in another thread which was unrelated.
So I opened another thread to keep that discussion separate.

He was not just on the wrong side at that time. He is still on the wrong side. He was willing to hold talks even in 2015 after APC attacks.

I hope PTI has tomorrow what MQM had today. The minus one formula.


This thread is a reminder to people that before they give their trust to a person like Imran, they need to remember how awfully wrong he has been before and how dearly it has cost Pakistanis.

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Teen Ganday IK TuQ & Sheeda are busy in some new script in India . They have no issue of Taliban now

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Diplomatic talks is a great way of conflict resolutions, but never with terrorists.

But then we all remember Rehman Malik thanking Talibans for no suicide attacks during one of the eids.

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so Imran khan is rehman malik? But then, who is billu of PTI? :hmmm:

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True in principle but important not to generalise. How do you think the British government solved the longstanding dispute with IRA Murderers? Talks ultimately led to durable peace

I am not in favour of talks with Taliban either. The difference between Taliban (a diseased and pathological mindset) and IRA is that Taliban are also evil and inhuman. You cannot really have a sane conversation or argument with murderers who have stone age thinking, who play football with severed heads of soldiers and then post it on youtube!

IRA had more humanity. They gave advance warning (it does not diminish their crime for sure) to the British government before each attack

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I don't think the Brits ever just left N. Ireland like Imran was proposing to completely vacate FATA to the elements before "negotiating". Something about pakistani army not being there by law / custom when it was Jinnah's courtesy move to move army units from FATA in 1947. Of course, the current PTI govt would've washed its hands off FATA saying that they don't have any "jurisdiction". Imran's solution basically was to treat FATA like a containment zone and post FC (KP's frontier constabulary) along the "border" like Pakistan ends at fATA's border.

Phir yeh bhain bhain kar kay rota tha when sindh govt banned him from karachi. Hypocrite much? No way in hell can anyone defend such positions unless if you are a fanboy or fangirl. We have no shortage of those personality worshippers in Pakistan.

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These are relations not wives who could be easily divorced by Imran

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