Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
I already said that meeting the COAS and call for MI role in investigations were not the best solutions, but were consequential actions. PMLN involved army in the process.
Its a matter of common sense, as we see MI being widely used in all major investigations by civilian authorities (Karachi JIT, Model town JIT etc) but when it comes to investigating rigging, all crime partners band together to oppose it as their pants risk getting dropped.
You don't seem to undertstand the difference between a country intelligence agency investigating terroirst attacks - and taking a role in elections/democracy.
Pti will never admit their leader is an ISI stooge.
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
You don't seem to undertstand the difference between a country intelligence agency investigating terroirst attacks - and taking a role in elections/democracy.
Pti will never admit their leader is an ISI stooge.
Nice effort to mask the reality by calling it a 'country' intelligence agency, rather than military intelligence agency. Karachi incidents should have been investigated by the police...but MI was called in for its expertise and impartiality. Same was the case in Model town, where it was the IBs job to investigate, but MI was involved because noone trusts the civilian police structure.
Just because ZAB and Sharifs were the products of generals, and just because Benazir selected a general to whitewash her past crimes in the form of an NRO, doesnt mean everyone else is too.
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
You are basing the justification around a typo?? LOL
You keep bringing examples from the past to justify Imran’s corrupt dealings - without even realising you are acknowledging this makes Imran is as bad as all those you criticise.
The suggestion by the PTI chief that a Supreme Court-led commission to inquire into the conduct of elections in May 2013 should include representatives of the ISI and MI is nothing short of staggering and bizarre.
Quite simply, it is these very organisations, and especially the ISI, that has historically queered the electoral pitch against democrats and civilian politicians. In fact, the last major electoral-related case that was adjudicated on by the Supreme Court — the Mehrangate scandal and the rigging of the 1990 election in favour of the IJI coalition led by Nawaz Sharif — led to the very highest levels of the army leadership, including a former army chief and DG ISI, being held responsible for essentially the buying of an election.
Even leaving that history aside, what legal role does the ISI or the MI have when it comes to electoral matters? What is their official expertise in a matter that must be decided along laid-down legal criteria? All that Mr Khan appears to have done with his peculiar suggestion is reinforce the impression that the PTI wants the army to have a role in politics and elections.
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
Its really unfortunate that responsible politicians like IK whom a whole generation is keeping very high hopes with is trying to mess the system completely by bringing armed forces in something that should be totally controlled by civilians. See its just two things: Either you want democratic system or an autocrat. In any democratic system there is no room for such things.
I just dont understand. On one side IK keeps on giving examples of foreign countries, and on the other side he keeps on suggesting the things which he himself back off after certain days. I'm sure he'll back off from this as well.
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
I just dont understand. On one side IK keeps on giving examples of foreign countries, and on the other side he keeps on suggesting the things which he himself back off after certain days. I'm sure he'll back off from this as well.
he is confused himself...
my sense is that he wants things in a legitimate fashion, he is a honest person and he is a straightforward guy
but at the very same time after 20 years of struggle he really wants to be in power and he feels that his time is now or never and therefore he is listening too much to people like shk rasheed, shah mahmood qureshi, jehangir tareen and mubahsar luqman and we all know what type of advice he must be getting from these folks...and hence you are seeing all type of confused messages and strategies from khan....civil disobedience, joining hands with TUQ (biggest disaster), umpire kee unglie, hawala message, and now ISI to investigate rigging
but in the mean process he is confusing his supporters..hard core will always be blind followers but not-so-hard core will be more and more confused. and just because PMLN or PPP did some thing stupid does not allow Imran to do the same...he shd understand he is the voice of change
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
I don't agree with Imran on bringing ISI into investigation, could easily be done with some neutral judges and there are plenty of them so no need to bring anyone into it. On the other hand so called democratic leader lied about Army's involvement into negotiations but no issue because his launching by Army general, taking money from ISI to win elections is old news now?
Re: Imran tries to bring ISI directly into politics
Imran/Pti is being supported by corrupt lotas like SMQ, Sheikh Rashid. his supporters are too naive and brainwashed to realise this.
Someone who supports a party with Zardari and a party which runs like a khaandaani business you think PTI is corrupt and its supporters are brainwashed? Honestly?
Critiicism should be given where it is valid and IK has made a few mistakes with this dharna but statements like yours take the...you know vot.