Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
What does it all have to do with discussion at hand? You only seem to be interested in digressing the topic of thread. If I follow your lead then the topic of the thread will be lost.
The reason I mentioned MQM was clear. It came out clearly against fanaticism in this case while people like Imran didn't.** This thread is not meant for MQM, Altaf, and its policies over the years**.
Muqawwee, you should know better. Just take a look at your posts. They are all about MQM. You are the one not discussing the main topic ... along with some other friends of ours.
In a 20 posts thread, when a politician (Imran Khan) being condemned for not being specific because of his instance on a particular issue, my 2 posts were in response to your posts praising MQM and its leader for being specific on issues.
I commented here to let people know that when it comes to giving statements, our politicians (be it MQM or any other party) won't let you down, but there is no follow-up of the issue when time passes.
Re: “Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?”
That is a lie. Such attacks and brainwashing was there and could be contained with political and military will. I agree with you that this menace has been here for decades now but it was never this easy for the animals to recruit. You can easily correlate Western presence and incremental violence in Pakistan.
This is true. USA would leave and we’ll be left handling the mess.
Certainly not a root cause but adds fuel to the fire.
Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
If Imran can't even criticize Taliban in order to protect his workers, then how can he make big decisions against them in future? If everyone starts behaving like a chicken then who can confront the problem? Everyone will be sitting in their homes when Taliban come in locality doing same atrocities as in Swat and FATA.
I agree that bit, thats why I don't like PTI on this confused/lost stand.
And about Altaf running away. He used to speak against religious fanaticism and Jamaatis even when he was in Pakistan. And whether anyone like it or not, he is obviously more concerned about Pakistan's future if Taliban ideology spreads, than about his workers only.
Just closing our eyes and running away from reality will not make the problem disappear.
Simple and plain BS, Altaf might have criticised JI but that was simple and plain for political grounds.
Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
Sorry for the choice of words. I don't care about people disagreeing or agreeing with me.
If you don't care, then why anyone else will care? You care that's why this thread is here. Arguments and emotions may not go hand in hand.
*HOW DO DRONE STRIKES EXPLAIN TALIBAN'S ATTACK ON MALALA? *
Malala wasn't attacked because of drone attacks.
DOES IMRAN STILL THINK THAT NEGOTIATIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITH THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT ATTACKED MALALA?
I personally believe that negotiations with the Taliban are only a way of befooling ourselves. But the other option of operations has also be exhausted time and again which yeilded no durable result. The US and the Nato have been doing this in Afghanistan for over a decade. They are busy these days to find a face-saving exit.
As I said elsewhere, no military can impose peace in the tribal badlands. Whenever a solution will take place or last, negotiations will ultimately be a part of the process.
As far as IK's stand is concerned, I would have liked Imran to be more vocal and unambiguous about the menace of the TTP. He has been stressing dialogues despite that fact that we have already seen many such sessions falling apart.
Neither stick alone nor carrots, you need both in this case.
Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
As a PTI supporter, i think Imran needs to be more strict against Talibans because theory of "Negotiations" is not simply going to work with these fanatics. You can negotiate with extremists but this is different breed alltogether.
As for this thread, i don't know why people are confusing drones with Malala? How are these two issues relevant? This theory could ONLY work if we had proof that drones kill Talibans only so let them continue. FACT is that there are dozens of Malalas who get killed with these drones so how on earth can you justify drones just because Malala got atacked by Taliban?
As for Imran being a coward, i don't think there has been ANY other leader who has risked his life so much recently so that is nothing more than a cheap attack.
You could label Altaf a BRAVE leader for issuing statements sitting thousands of miles away but holding a jalsa in Quetta, leading peaceful anti film rallies with public, taking a rally to Wazristan etc are REAL steps of a brave person. As i said, he needs to issue stronger statements against Talibans but people like Altaf will NEVER be able to resolve the terrorism problem by merely issuing statements. He needs to issue stronger statements for violence in Karachi that takes dozens of lives everyday.
Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
The thing is that most of the people who have come towards PTI is after getting disillusioned by PPP and PMLN, and thats the reason why they have very very high expectations from Imran Khan and PTI. These high expectations compel people to question Imran Khan about his policies. Almost every one in the country opposed drones, we all want a solution to the problem by involving the tribes of FATA, but that does not mean that as a result of a peace agreement TTP should be imposed on the people.
The statements Imran Khan has given recently related to this attack, and foreign affairs (like relations with Afghanistan) are very disappointing and it shows that no thought has been given on the issue on which the life and death of the country depends.
With the result there is a complete disarray in the party rank and file, as no one knows the party policy. Most of PTI members are spreading around the same conspiracy theories like JI and other extreme right wingers. PTI will have to work and iron out their internal security and foreign policies, otherwise they will start losing some support.
Re: "Imran sb, do drones explain attack on Malala?"
I'm seriously irked by his recent comment. He doesn't even have the bottle to directly condemn the Taliban... I have noticed this trend he is following of appeasing the terrorists. I'd have to rethink my support for him. (Not that I can vote. I'm glad his party is not in Kashmir now). Even in this situation the mainstream parties are better by denouncing it.