In the 14 years since the inception of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), the average voter (excluding the very few active party workers) can name only one prominent member, that being the gallant huzaar aanhazrat dr. phd massih Khan himself. This is at worse a model of dictatorial khilafat and at best no better than the recent unopposed election of Nawaz Sharif held by the PML-N, or altaaf daddy.
plus humaray pyaray PTI kay nabi has a soft spot for extremist suicide bombers. denying that they existed before 9/11, even though the ahmedis, shias, and bohris would disagree.
I absolutely agree with you that making a constitution is one thing. Delivering is something else.
But you should also know that “momin ek surakh se dobara nahee dassa jaata” but we in Pakistan have been bitten many times by same type of snakes. Now is the time for change.
Besides, on personal achievements, we have seen that Imran khan has delivered to us which was considered as impossible such as Shaukat Khanam Hospital and Namal University. All without any support of Govt. of Pakistan. Just image, if given resources, he will definitely change this country for better.
I want to see the same support of IK in Pakistan as much as he has that outside Pakistan. For some reason, I trust Pakistanis living in Pakistan to be better judge of who is qualified to be the next leaders, than the Pakistanis sitting outside Pakistan. I dont see any significant public support of IK inside Pakistan. I am sorry to burts the bubbles of PTI supporters, but he is not becoming PM of Pakistan in your life time.
So just because other could not deliver automatically makes IK the right candidate? What logic is that?
Its like saying that the whole cricket team could not perform so its time to bring someone from the street to replace them
I wud modify your example just a little.
Its like saying that the whole cricket team could not perform so its time to change captain. The best thing i like about Imran khan is that he beleives in his nation. He knows we wont die hungry if we dont let USA interfere in our country.
About him winning the election. hey Hopefully we are both around for few years :)
I want to see the same support of IK in Pakistan as much as he has that outside Pakistan. For some reason, I trust Pakistanis living in Pakistan to be better judge of who is qualified to be the next leaders, than the Pakistanis sitting outside Pakistan. I dont see any significant public support of IK inside Pakistan. I am sorry to burts the bubbles of PTI supporters, but he is not becoming PM of Pakistan in your life time.
That may be true. But does that mean we accept whatever is happening and let it happen for rest of our lives? What will be its state after 5, 10, 15 years? In last 5 years, we have quadrupled the debt, every major institution is in multiple billion dollars of debt, be it railway, PIA, steel mill - you name it.
So, I think, if we want to save Pakistan, we need to agree on one thing, which is to implement justice and root out corruption. And this is the motto of PTI which I see.
I absolutely agree with you that making a constitution is one thing. Delivering is something else.
But you should also know that "momin ek surakh se dobara nahee dassa jaata" but we in Pakistan have been bitten many times by same type of snakes. Now is the time for change.
all that teaches me is that we are lacking momins ......
again.....just because we feel that it is time for change doesn't mean that the change will benefit us.
Besides, on personal achievements, we have seen that Imran khan has delivered to us which was considered as impossible such as Shaukat Khanam Hospital and Namal University. All without any support of Govt. of Pakistan. Just image, if given resources, he will definitely change this country for better.
There is no doubt about the good work that he has done and continues to do with the hospital and the university, may Allah reward him for that. However, leading independent projects to a successful result does not mean that you can run a country with so many diverse issues and political baggage.
The teams that he has in place to work for the hospital and the university are not the same people that he will be relying upon in the political arena.
Trust me......there is much growth required there.
Its like saying that the whole cricket team could not perform so its time to change captain. The best thing i like about Imran khan is that he beleives in his nation. He knows we wont die hungry if we dont let USA interfere in our country.
I am not challenging his sincerity. I am challenging his popularity inside Pakistan for his party to win any seats.
Take just one item out of 48 and tell me how he is going to achieve just one item. These look good only on electronic paper or just an eye wash or public ko bewaqoof banana hay. No economic and foreign policies, no vision, no agenda. Once again Great Abraham Licoln once said"‘You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time’
I want to see the same support of IK in Pakistan as much as he has that outside Pakistan. For some reason, I trust Pakistanis living in Pakistan to be better judge of who is qualified to be the next leaders, than the Pakistanis sitting outside Pakistan. I dont see any significant public support of IK inside Pakistan. I am sorry to burts the bubbles of PTI supporters, but he is not becoming PM of Pakistan in your life time.
lol i know.
Imran Khan and Pervez Musharraf, despite all their animosity, have this boutique following in common. Any election held on Facebook would be a tough contest between the two. Although the difference being, that mushy ji actually has a real live following within Pakistan.
Small example: Imran had been asking for PTI groups outside of Pakistan to run elections for over a year.....apparently these elections have occurred and the results are in.......however, the local website still says that the site is suspended until elections are done with.....same applies to the UK site. (I am told it has been several months since the elections were completed.)
If a small group of a few hundred people cannot see eye to eye or be mobilized then how is this party going to run a country??? How do they plan to face the obstacles that will invariably be placed in their path?
Again....I absolutely love Imran's ideas and his platform.....I just don't see it as being ready to take on the nation.
Ik is asking for governorship of Karachi or Sindh.
Make new provinces and make him governor of Lahore/Punjab
He is only a leader of some kids of Central Punjab.
The majority I know of support Imran Khan, I do too, but sadly the ground reality suggests its most probably going to be PMLN this time, with PPP being the strongest of contenders.
I am not challenging his sincerity. I am challenging his popularity inside Pakistan for his party to win any seats.
it will take many years for Imran to achieve the level of popularity the other parties have........many, many years still.
I wish this was not the case but sadly, without great intervention, it is true.
Small example: Imran had been asking for PTI groups outside of Pakistan to run elections for over a year.....apparently these elections have occurred and the results are in.......however, the local website still says that the site is suspended until elections are done with.....same applies to the UK site. (I am told it has been several months since the elections were completed.)
If a small group of a few hundred people cannot see eye to eye or be mobilized then how is this party going to run a country??? How do they plan to face the obstacles that will invariably placed in their path?
Again....I absolutely love Imran's ideas and his platform.....I just don't see it as being ready to take on the nation.
A mind game for all.
Keep everything the same: the constitution, the social work, that insaaf kaa taraazoo kind of personality - but replace Imran with ..errm lets say, Sheikh Rashid.
Now how many people think that this new person would have chances that he can become the new leader of Pakistan, or he is the only hope. I am sure no one.
point in case, people dont give a jack to PTI, its the charming and celebrity persona of Imran that attracts people to him. That is why you see zero motivation when it comes to organize/do actual work. However, if you put imran in the same room, 3000 people would show up.
I want to see the same support of IK in Pakistan as much as he has that outside Pakistan. For some reason, I trust Pakistanis living in Pakistan to be better judge of who is qualified to be the next leaders, than the Pakistanis sitting outside Pakistan. I dont see any significant public support of IK inside Pakistan. I am sorry to burts the bubbles of PTI supporters, but he is not becoming PM of Pakistan in your life time.
People used to say harsher things about bhutto when he was starting the wave of change back in the day (not that I like him one bit). While Imran Khan may not become the PM of pakistan in the next elections, he will definitely form govt in KPK and likely win a sizeable chunk in Balochistan and Punjab. So he will have a significant leeway in national decisions.
Khwab adhure sahee........ khwab sahare to hain !!
I would rather leave Pakistan than spend another five years under PPP cockroaches.
People used to say harsher things about bhutto when he was starting the wave of change back in the day .
Please, dont compare Bhutto with Imran. It took bhutto only 4 years from the inception of his party to become the president of pakistan. Imran could not win a single proper seat in NA in last 14 years.