Imran Khan not in favour of cuts in Pakistan’s defence budget

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We should like or dislike people on their overall bad moves but not on the basis of province. Try to think like a Pakistani but not like Punjabi or Sindhi!

Sorry dude but i think in your dictionary any person who talk against Solidarity of Pakistan is patriot and others are traitors ?

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Yes my boy but rest of Pakistan seems to be a colony only.
He is a patriot who love all the Pakistan and care for all the Pakistanis .

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so as per your above statement you are not Patriot :hmmm:
Keonkah aap manain nah manin Punjab k loog bhi Pakistani hain :jhanda: and you don’t love them :emmy:

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yah baat :k: aaj to Jamiat ka Nazim laga hay IK :hbk:

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Education is important but religious tolerance is something ingrained in you from a very young age by your parents. How-else can you explain some ex-military officers and even doctors joining jihadist ranks? Is lack of education responsible for that? Religious mindset cannot be changed by education alone (good tolerant upbringing by parents is the key) just like feudal mindset cannot be changed by Oxford or Cambridge education! I blame the parents who have failed their children in many of these cases

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I am a Punjabi of CENTRAL PUNJAB , but I can not go with the bad things , It is my Pakistan and I want to see every Pakistani happy .

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So you argument assumes that Jihad extends from religious intolerance? LoL.

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There are other factors too such as education, poverty, your life experiences etc. but parents can play a key role here

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He is not talking about "jihad".... rather extremism, displayed by likes of Taliban (TTP), LeJ, SM etc.

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A budget civilians are not allowed to audit? We do not even know what happens to the money. Return on Investment over last few years has been dead Pakistanis.

The army is under stress from more than two fronts. They have to maintain housing societies, land development projects, fertilizer plants, constructions companies, chemical plants, logistics companies, hotels and resorts, and so on. We must not restrict operations of this conglomerate.

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Umm....in case you are referring to FFC, FFBL, Askari bank etc, they are all public companies. They were started by the military, but employ a wide range of civilians, and do not get funded by the defence budget.

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The top management of all these is still from military and Fauji Foundation (funded by civilians) still owns substantial portion of their shares. Very naive to claim that military has nothing to do with them all. Find me an example of any country where the military is running a residential project at the scale of DHA? Have you visited the clubs and resorts run by military? Where are those leisure islands funded from? Where does military gets all the land for these projects?

Anyways, WTH is military doing running all these businesses? If they concentrated on the job they are supposed to do instead of developing industrial and real estate conglomerates, we'd all be much better off.

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The organizations were initiated by the military, but have since gone public. They serve a couple of purposes.
1. They were initiated as a way to streamline the transfer of military personnel from military to civilian life. A lot of military retirees are hired on contract jobs in these organizations, for a maximum of 3 years.
2. These organizations have earned a lot of money for the military, and that is because the strength of our military force is pretty large for obvious reasons, and their expenses are huge for the same reasons.
3. DHA project was started on the same lines as any other employee housing project, eg GOR, Railway housing, Wapda housing etc. Take a look at DHAs across the country and you will notice that they are all built far from the main cities. When Lahore DHA was being built, people used to mock it, saying they are building houses in the village...same was the case with Karachi. But after those places were cleaned up, populated, and secured,it was civilians, mostly politicians etc, who bought houses/plots in DHA at whatever price was asked for....They are the ones who are responsible for jacking up the price of real estate. And now that it has been jacked up, the military is blamed for usurping 'prime' land. Convenient timing i must say. Same is true for all 'resorts' and clubs

You forget the fact that our civilian organizations and management have been rubbish, thanks to corruption from top to bottom. Military organizations have flourished because they are relatively cleaner, and run in a more streamlined way. There are bad apples every where, and armed forces are no exception, but the defence budget is not the reason Pakistan is in deep doo doo.

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Who is in favour of cuting defence budget of Pakistan?

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End of story. Military has no business doing business.

Military personnel get pension from civilian budget, plus lucrative jobs in these organizations. During the course of their services, the officer do get perks much greater than any other public service already. Sorry, but but 'maximum of 3 years' is not correct. I personally know several military retirees doing jobs that they are not qualified to do in organizations funded with public money. There is no comparable example in the world of military running such businesses.

Give me unlimited funding and preferable access to resources and sales/services contracts, I'll give you 'profitable businesses.

Sorry, but again I would not agree GOR, Railways Housing or Wapda Housing running commercial housing projects. It is okay as long as the limit the societies to their own employees and not run as commercial organizations. Give me unlimited funding, access to public land and ability to conveniently circumvent bureaucracy, I'll give you DHA.

About Civilian organizations being corrupt, the government has no business doing business either. Most of them should be privatized to be run more efficiently.

It is not the budget that is my problem. My problem is what they do with the budget and do not allow civilian authorities to even audit the spending. This is disgusting, to say the least. How would you feel if a group of doctors start a fertilizer plant using the budget allocated for health and start employing doctors to run it?

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Another victory
Lawrence College: Rusticated student restored, principal sent home

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So, is imran pro fauji foundation Inc.?

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No , No one trusts him.
My post was related to other party of this thread .

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Why is QUARTERLY board of directors meeting of a Pakistani company was held in Brazil???

Fauji Fertilizer Bin Qasim Limited

Karachi, October 4, 2012 (PPI-OT): 1. The subject meeting will be held at 1000 hrs on 18 Oct 2012 at Brazil, to consider and approve Quarterly Accounts (Jul-Sep 2012)…