Imran Khan as a politician [split: Do we really deserve this Army..?]

Who told you that? I have seen many Pakistani in power before. I have not seen anyone more tolerant than Musharraf even when he is suppose to be military ruler.

Imran Khan deserves to get charged of treason. Imran was blabbering BS and lies since last 5 years against government and even army, and was making those that are fighting army and state (Pakistan) as heroes, still no one touched him, though many time his BS deserve him to get charged of treason. To sit in a country and inciting people of the country against government, prevailing system, and army is treason anywhere in the world.

Anyhow, I wonder that if he is educated or not. If he was educated than he should have known that when a country is under emergency, than he can be charged of treason if he talks against the government and army. Now let see how much proper dictator Musharraf is, as if Musharraf is true dictator than Imran would get executed. It is because in emergency, especially if person that brought emergency is from military, than if anyone incites army and talk against the government, than that person can easily get executed.

Imran slammed President many times in past, even though most of the time he was talking BS, but police never came to grab him. But again this idiot started behaving as if he is uneducated and do not know the difference between emergency (whatever the reason) and normal time.

Well, that is how our population is. Imran got thappar and thudda not from police but IJI students. They took Imran as trespasser and were treating him as thief in their den. As for police, today they are more in control than what they use to be in Pakistani past. So, don’t complain. Imran mentally is same as those police, rather if he was police, he would have been worse. Imran showed his character and dictatorial attitude when he used to play Cricket as well as in his political life.

Hero … what a crap. Respect of a person is in their own hands, as for getting respect, one have to learn to give respect. Think, how much respect Imran gives to othes. If Imran cannot give respect to others, how can he deserve any respect and how anyone can respect such a person? Once Imran joined politics and started lying and Bull-shiiitting right left and centre and also showed his lowly character without any ethics in his personal life, he lost any respect that he ever had and today very few respect him or care for him.

Laughing stock is wrong word. Reality is that, Pakistan is a horror story. People like Imran, NS, BB, trying to be politician and making joke of themselves, did made Pakistan a laughing stock. But than we also have Talibans and AQ who are making sure that that instead of laughing stock, Pakistan gets known all over the world as horror story.

If I have to agree with anyone and try to say things to make them happy, however ridiculous and idiotic it may be, than its better to lose respect in their eyes, it won’t affect my health :slight_smile: Anyhow, police in Pakistan are not something very decent, and that is accepted fact. Actually, I was surprised seeing them behave decently during last 8 years and way they dealt with people in muted way, like lawyers and Lal-Masjid goons. But police action against those who try to destroy peace and progress in the country is acceptable to me.

He was not protesting, he was trying to incite people and students to take law and order in their hand. As for taking permission with University officials and Student Union, that is requirement of University, and is nothing to do with government directly.

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That’s pure nonsense my friend. Yes Imran criticised Mush in the past but that is his civil right. But I don’t blame you guys because you are just not used to freedom of speech and expression. You guys still have the same ghulaamana zehniyat and can’t quite shirk it off. I feel sorry for you. Whereas we who now live in the West take these things for granted. If Mush was allowing that before he was not doing anyone any great ehsan. If you had said that to anyone in the West that Mush allowed this and that he would have laughed back at you. We take these things for granted my friend and do not consider it an ehsan from anyone (ofcourse there are limits which should never be crossed). This is our fundamendal civil right.

Unfortunately you live in a country where merit does not count even now. A country where matric-pass and educated jaahil and idiots (like Sheikh Rashid, Wasi Zafar, Pervez Elahi and Ch. Shujaat ) can become minister and chief minister, that country really has no future.

Now since you brought this ethnicity thing into the discussion let me just give you some peace of mind. It’s nothing but bull. Imran has a big ego and yes some of his selections when he was the captain of the team did not make much sense at the time but I don’t think they had anything to do with Karachi/Lahore thing.

When Imran Khan dropped his cousin Majid Khan who was the guy who replaced him? - a Karachiite Mansoor Akhtar. Imran once even compared him to the great Viv Richards! - kahan yeh takkay ka batsman aur kahan Viv Richards.

I know some of you guys get your knickers in a twist about that declaration by Imran Khan when Miandad was on 280* against India in 1983. Imran did the right thing then because we won the test - period. The team’s performance should always come first. Miandad like Tendulkar always played for individual records. He was then some 86 runs away from breaking Sober’s record, so it was n’t like he was within striking distance of the record. Miandad actually got two more chances to get to 300 (260 v England in 1987 and 271 v NZ in 1989) but failed on both occasions (nothing to do with Imran here :)). There was nothing very special about the deliveries that got him then. When a batsman is on a big score and well-set it’s often not the bowling but tiredness or exhaustion that eventually gets him out.

And to give you another example Imran once declared the Pakistan innings with his personal score on 93*. That’s how selfless he was. I have lived in England for some 15 years now and I can safely say that no Pakistani has ever been in the newspapers and glossy magazines as much as Imran Khan and many of my English and Indian friends have the greatest of respect for him as a cricketer and person. I don’t know whether it’s a hang-up or jealousy with some of you guys.

Lastly Miandad was n’t some kind of a saint either. Read the following damning comments by a fellow Karachiite the chief selector Salahuddin ‘Sallu’. Miandad apparently black-mailed the selectors throughout his cricketing career.
http://dawn.com/2007/11/01/spt3.htm](http://dawn.com/2007/11/01/spt3.htm)
Miandad was just never in the news as much as Imran mainly because of his poor personality and poor communication skills (Forget his English, his urdu is crap and has been the subject of many comedies in Pakistan incl. fifty-50 and 4manshow etc.)

(ps. I regard Miandad as Pakistan’s greatest batsman)

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^ same here I am not sure why I am discussing this here. Sorry ravage I know you like Miandad so do I. I have always given equal respect to both Imran and Miandad, the original stalwarts of our cricket in the 80s but when I see people criticising Imran unfairly, I just can't resist :)

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Golden bhai, kewn deewaar se sar phor rahay ho?

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I never liked Miandad, but his links to Ibrahim D. are to be respect. Backstabbed Pakistani Team after he was no more Pakistani Coach and made deals with BICC, while criticizing PCB and Team to the extreme (to score at BICC). Aur India ne tori si bhi lift naih karayi. Bechara.

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:cb: Addat hai isy:frusty:

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Well that may well be the case in civilised countries where the army personnel behave like professionals, confine themselves to the barracks and do not mess in politics or the affairs of the state, where there is rule of law and elected people head the government. In Pakistan we have a military dictator who is not really elected and the army is fast losing respect in the eyes of the people because of it's constant interference in politics. If you want to support the dictator no matter what just say it, but please don't come up with twisted arguments all the time to defend his unconstitutional steps. Mush has now lost respect in the eyes of many people - period, and he is now showing his true colours since the imposition of emergency thru police brutality and arrest of anyone who is opposed to his flawed vision.

And what nonsense are you talking here. Imran never incited anyone against the army or gloated over the killings of any Pakistani soldiers. Don't talk bull all the time. Yes he is very much against the military involvement in Waziristan but that does n't in any way constitute treason in my book. He is entitled to his own opinion and whether you agree with him or not tough luck buddy.

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Buddy it’s useless to debate with these guys…they can not see the highest baysharmee to which their mad man has resorted…I wish Musharaf will be in jail one day waiting to be hanged and I want to ask him his feelings that day when his wife and mother are manhandled by male police>>>

http://pkpolitics.com/2007/11/16/imran-khans-sisters-manhandled-by-policemen/