Impact on Pakistani culture? Taliban's God vs. God the merciful

These are the couple of questions to the guppies.

What is the impact on Pakistan’s culture due to the presence of Taliban’s God.

What would have been the impact on Pakistan’s culture due to God the merciful?

Why these questions?

Well we have seen utter destruction and horrible deaths in different cities of Pakistan. Our hotels, our mosques and madrassahs, and anti-Talib Imams, our police first responders (15) and our people gathered to pray in the mosque all have been blown to pieces.

One wonders what if Pakistanis were living under God the merciful instead of living under the influence of Taliban’s God.

Many people may find these questions discomforting. They may go to mods and ask for locking or perhaps deleted this thread.

Why? Because Pakistanis have been lead to believe that Taliban are implementing Allah’s system aka Sharia.

Thus making Taliban’s God the same as Allah.

But many in Pakistan are now seriously questioning the wisdom of accepting Taliban’s mission as the righteous one.

So we should ask ourselves. What would have been the culture of Pakistan if instead of living under the fear and death and destruction of Taliban’s God, we were under the system of God the merciful?

^^ That's right Burqa. Taliban follow some strange god who orders them to bomb and kill innocent worshipers of Almighty Allah.

Taliban are by no means Muslims. They are a weird sect, possibly worshiping devil. Brave soldiers, common men who laid down their lives while saving thousands others are definitely martyrs.. Martyrs of Allah Almighty.

These devil worshiping Taliban rats are martyrs... martyrs of Devil!

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Pakistanis have rejected Talibanics, now its about war with them.

More important question is Will the Pak Army, whom the nation has allocated huge sums of budget since independance will take care of this menace for once and all or will it back off after sometime.

Some people bickering can't stop no matter what, until today who is fighting Taliban menace in NWFP/FATA YOU/Politicians/Lawyers ??

Give Pak ARMY sometime, US as super power failed in Vietnam, USSR in Afghanistan... So it's not an easy war to win, .... and also do call them Shaheed when their bodies come, these suckers knowns as Jammat Islami, JUI, Tehreek-e-Insaaf ,.. should die in chulo barh pani ..

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^Prime example of which is you. Pak army has all the time, but, its not a crime to expect them to do the job they are supposed to do.

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if you make it a battle of ideologies you are playing the jihadi's game and winning will be difficult because both sides will sound almost exact - people cannot make the distinction always.

Deal with it as you would any criminals murderers thieves and drug pushers. Bringing God into these things is what made the problem huge.

Both the superpowers were fighting in "other" countries ...... while Pak army is dealing with the situation within its borders ..... in any case hope they don't make the same mistakes they made last time !!!!

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Wow. Man you guys are idiots. Well done on committing Shirk.

To be fair, the mountains of NWFP and especially FATA may well be another country for many of the soldiers.

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Their is no way to halt the talibans. the army may be able to drive them out of their hideouts but the tabliban will soon return once the army is finished doing the job. Have we learnt nothing from the mighty eagle yet? You cannot counter insurgency with conventional warfare. Its flawed..asinine to think otherwise. As a matter of fact, isnt our military and intelligence aware of all these odds? which begs the question of the rationale of the war

So what do you suggest, surrender to these animals?

Rational of war is nation's survival. Pakistan must do to Taliban what Sri Lanka did to Tamils. Crush them ruthlessly. It may take time, but I know we can do it.

Well burqaposh, deal with reality, a suicide bomber,who has been brainwashed by some eloquent mullah, and who blow himself up in a mosque or a crowded market place is not an evil soul. He gives up his life because he is made to believe that ALLAH will reward him in hereafter. The mullah use same message to inject hatred into suicide bomber to the extent that he doesnt hesitate in killing innocent women,children and men.

So where is the fault? Its already in human's mind in form of hatred. And when it is fulled, making it legitimate by citing GOD's commands, it blows out of proportions.

Pl be honest and tell me if some mullah in Islamabad, gives sermon after Friday prayers, and tells the crowd that hindus have become intolrable, since they are crossing all boundries in terms of shirk and idol worshipping, and therefore should be either converted or wiped out. He will give some references from holy quran and ahadith, tell to the crowd how hindus massacred innocent muslims in Gujrat, and therefore should be taught a lesson. How will the crowd react? how many of them will brand him evil or unislamic? I wont say none, but a very negligible few. U can see urself how many posts are there in different threads which dreams of attacking hindus, and stopping all the shirk which is being done by them and what not.

What does it all shows? It shows hatred which pakistani muslims have been nurturing towards hindus and India for long. It has been legitimized religiously too by mullahs. No one will care to question how ALLAH will become happy by killing of its own creations by its own creations.

Pl dont feel that I m accusing only muslims for nurturing hatred for hindus, I know same kind of hatred is in minds of some hindus too for muslims, but difference is that we dont have any religious text which can justify it, while U have a pleanty which can be misinterpretated.

So the bottomline is that untill and unless all those biased misinterpretation of religious scripture is stopped, this orgy of hatred and killing of innocents has very bleak chances to end. Hatred should be discouraged at all levels, be it towards muslims or non muslims.

Peace.

You really have no clue to the composition of our armed forces do you?

Never said that. Im questioning the rationale of the 'war on terror' or more precisely the effectiveness of the war methods being used, especially the one being waged in Pakistan. Name one successful miliatary campaign against insurgency? Has the superior US been able to contain insurgency? Pakistan is a third world country with the worst power crisis in history, lacks the modern military techniques, has internal instablity, has his staunchest enemy on its eastern border bent on using the insurgency to destablize it and the people of pakistan are hopeful of winning this war? Naive.

You have no schools, no government, no police to effectively run a society once the IDPs return. what does that mean? That means some people who have interests in destabalizing Pakistan backed by their virgins and regimes who wish to strike the final blow to Pakistan will return and screw it up again.

intermittent military operations are no good. a dissatisfied populace, poverty, instablity, lack of good governance, lack of education are the very foundations of an insurgency. pakistan has failed/ignored to alleviate the pains of the people of pakistan. take a look at your literacy rate, your health standards, the level of corruption. Does any sane mind comprehend a victory for Pakistan?

A short term solution. In the long term you have your enemy using every means to harm you. You have americans with their long term objective of promoting democrary in the rogue states of Asia, you have an unsecured western border and tabilans are gaining strenght in the presence of the american forces. Our situation is different from Sri Lanka's. Very different.

You may be right sNOVA. With friends of Taliban lurking in every media outlet, and their efforts to sow doubts and conspiracy theories in full swing, the victory against Talibleesi forces is very very difficult if not impossible.

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taliban lurking in every media outlet? that's a new one! I've heard of taleban sympathy in madrassha, govt, in military and in intelligence. now media too? what's next? banks and sports?

everybody's darling is nobody's darling and you can't action against everybody. taleban is surviving purely because of the sympathies of certain unauthorized agencies within military. They raise their funds and recruits through certain religious wings. I don't think media has any part in that - atleast there has been no indication or proof of that

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lol

It’s not very wise to compare the Pakistani situation with the Sri Lankan one. In Sri Lanka the majority Sinhalese treats the Tamils as second-class citizens.
Do we want to treat fellow Muslims like that just because they are poor, uneducated or speak different language?

Millions have been made homeless because of the Army operations. Anger, disillusion and disenchantment will breed amongst them in future. Extremists will surely try to take advantage of the situation and try to recruit them for their own agendas. Recipe for a very explosive situation, IMVHO.

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