Seems like Hamas will successfully force Palestinians into poverty (no funding), and civil war with this shadow force. I fail to understand why these Maulana ashabs won’t do any positive and developmental work. Instead they are hell bent on picking a fight with the whole world. Then people say they are elected! An elected Mullah is still a dictatorial thug.
Hamas defies ‘security force’ ban
** The Hamas-led Palestinian government has defied a veto by President Mahmoud Abbas on its plan to form a shadow security force led by a top militant. ** Mr Abbas has ordered Palestinian security forces to ignore the Hamas plan, which would see a new force recruited from among militants.
It would be led by Jamal Abu Samhadana, wanted by Israel on terror charges.
Hamas insisted its interior minister had the authority to take the decision and said it would talk to Mr Abbas.
“The decision was taken in accordance with the basic law, which gives the interior minister the right to take measures in order to maintain security and public law and order,” said Hamas spokesman Ghazi Hamad.
“We will resolve the differences with dialogue.”
The security forces are led by officers loyal to Mr Abbas’s Fatah party, BBC Arab affairs analyst Magdi Abdelhadi notes.
Hamas has always been fully aware of the fact that it cannot dislodge the current leaders of the security forces without the risk of plunging Palestinian society into civil strife, our analyst adds.
** ‘Illegal order’ **
Palestinian Interior Minister Said Siyam justified the creation of a new force by saying it would help deal with rampant crime in the Palestinian territories.
However, Mr Abbas ruled that the minister’s decision was “illegal and anti-constitutional”, an aide said, and a presidential decree was issued nullifying the proposal.
“All security leaders, officers and members of the security services are ordered not to deal with these decisions and regard them as if they never happened,” the decree states.
Under the Palestinian Authority’s basic law, or constitution, the president has the power to veto senior government appointments and has overall control over security.
It is the first time since the Hamas-led government took office that Mr Abbas has used his powers to overturn a decision it has made.
** ‘Notorious terrorist’ **
Mr Samhadana, 45, leads the Popular Resistance Committees militant faction and has escaped several Israeli assassination attempts.
The group has been responsible for many attacks on Israel, including rockets launched from Gaza in recent weeks.
“I will continue to hold the rifle and will pull the trigger whenever required to defend my people,” Mr Samhadana told Reuters news agency.
On hearing of his appointment, he commented: “Factions and security services should unite in one trench against the daily Israeli aggression against our people.”
The Hamas government wants to appoint him to the rank of inspector-general at the interior ministry.
An Israeli cabinet minister, Zeev Boim, said on Friday that Israel had a “long account to settle” with Mr Samhadana, whom he called a “notorious terrorist”.
“His nomination gives him no immunity,” he told Israeli public radio.
US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the formation of the new police force pointed to the “true nature and the true tactics of this particular Hamas-led government”.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
I say, give them 5 years, Hamas will come to their senses
Right now, they got a stupid ally in Iran
Its only due to Iran's financial backing that Hamas is being so bold in its statements
Israel is going to pursue everything unilateraly
and completely seperate it self from the Palestinians
Its groups like Hamas which show the utter stupidity of muslims and arabs
Look at the IRA, FARC, ETA
All of these groups want independent countries but now have realized that violence and making provacative statments wont get them anywhere
so they have started to negoitaite as to what kind of autonomy they can get
If Hamas had any iota of a brain, they would recognize Israel, and come to the peace table
But as I suspect, Hamas is just a long line of brainwashed Arabs who think just because they are Muslims whey will triumph, perhaps forgetting that Prophet Muhammed's (PBUH) forces were defeated in the Battle of Uhud.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
Re-read the question. Answer that. Have they done anything illegal? If not. You can't complain about anything.
Secondly if you read your news from factual sources, you would realise that every single pay check has been late by a few months since the intifada started. Yet you didn't care them.
So Merc you saying that Israel firing rockets into Palestine is a terrorist activity as well? Or are you too damn blind to see your own foot in your mouth?
Source: Reuters
GAZA, April 22 (Reuters) - Dozens of Palestinian supporters from Hamas and President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction were wounded on Saturday in clashes in the Gaza Strip sparked by a growing dispute over control of security in the territory. The clashes, the worst between the groups in several months, began when student supporters of the factions hurled stones at one another outside a Gaza university and intensified when gunmen intervened. Medics said 20 people were wounded by stones and pipe bombs. Police forces were unable to control the clashes, which ended within hours, witnesses said. Hamas, an Islamic militant group elected to head the Palestinian government in a January vote, announced on Thursday the formation of a new security force to be headed by a top militant loyal to the faction. Abbas later vetoed the decision. The Palestinian president's move prompted sharp reaction from Khaled Meshaal, the exiled leader of Hamas who said on Friday that Abbas and other members of his Fatah faction were assisting a Western campaign to isolate the new government. The United States and other world powers have cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority since Hamas's win, saying the group, which is sworn to destroying Israel, must renounce violence and recognise the Jewish state and interim peace deals.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
Actively target children.
Hmmm, sounds like typical Arab propoganda to me which you are so blindly repeating.
Israel avoids killing civilians but aims at killing terrorists but while Hamas delibaretely send suicide bombers into buses, restaurants, etc, to cause maximum death and destruction
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
Wow. I have just lost all respect for you. You are a complete and utter moron. I do not tolerate ignorance at all. Please don’t respond to any of my posts from now on.
The Israeli army accepted it. From now on don’t respond to my threads or my posts. I require a minimum level of intelligence and open mind from others.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
I never had any respect for you to begin with.
you rhetoric, your picking and choosing articles from left-wing anti-israeli newspapers which some how legitimize your claim because their authors have white skin shows the utter lack in the basic concept of journalism, news, geo-politics.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
BBC is not leftist per-say...
Their coverage is good because they cover stories which normally no one else touches.
Although in terms of immigration, Israel-Palestine they are leftists on those issues, but in regards to that, they cover stories from variety of different perspectives and I like it.
I learn a lot more by going to BBC site than CNN or FOX or Al Jazeera
Notice I have never used CNN or FOX to quote pro-Israel stuff.
BBC may be seen as left wing by some people on different issues, but their coverage is awesome.
Re: Imminent civil war in Palestine: Hamas defies Abbas on shadow force
This tussle is not so good for the well being of the Palestinians.
**Shootout in Gaza amid power tussle **
The Associated Press http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/23/news/mideast.php
MONDAY, APRIL 24, 2006 GAZA Dozens of Hamas members rushed to the aid of a cabinet minister on Sunday after he was confronted by angry gunmen, provoking a shootout that left three people wounded in the latest infighting in the Gaza Strip.
The event showed how the new Hamas-led government is turning to its own supporters to impose order as it battles the rival Fatah movement for control of the Palestinian security forces.
The power struggle has grown increasingly contentious in recent days since Hamas announced plans to form a new security agency headed by a militant wanted by Israel.
President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah promptly vetoed the appointment, leading to clashes and protests.
Representatives of the two sides agreed early Sunday to work to end the tensions, but the pledge quickly degenerated into new violence. Thousands of Fatah activists joined anti-Hamas protests in the West Bank, hours before the shootout at the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza.
** The violence came a day after Health Minister Bassem Naim, a top Hamas official, said he was cutting $2 million from the monthly health budget to help alleviate a government financial crisis by halting payments for patients to get treatment abroad. The state of **Gaza’s health care system is poor, and Palestinians routinely travel to Israel and other countries for treatment.
On Sunday, a group of men, some of them armed, burst into Naim’s office and demanded that he authorize a trip for a relative of one of the men who needed treatment abroad, said Khaled Radi, the spokesman for the Health Ministry.
Naim’s bodyguards - Hamas militants - called for backup from their colleagues, and the two groups engaged in a brief shootout that wounded three people, witnesses and Palestinian security officials said.
After a 45-minute standoff, masked Hamas militants, joined by Palestinian police officers, retook the building, arresting three of the gunmen. Naim left surrounded by 10 Hamas supporters.
The minister’s reliance on Hamas gunmen - not the Fatah-dominated security services - illustrated the deep distrust between the sides.
Abbas, a political moderate who was elected in separate presidential elections last year, has been trying to use his already considerable powers to marginalize Hamas, which formed a cabinet after winning January elections.
Abbas favors peace talks with Israel, while Hamas calls for the destruction of the Jewish state and is listed as a terror organization by the United States and the European Union.
After Abbas tried to take control of all Palestinian security forces, Hamas responded last week with a plan to form its own shadow army made up of militants and headed by a top militant Israel has been hunting for years.
Abbas promptly vetoed that plan, and Hamas’s exiled political chief, Khaled Mashaal, accused him of cooperating with Israel and the United States and “plotting against us.”
Mashaal’s comments sparked angry demonstrations and exchanges of gunfire in the West Bank and Gaza on Saturday. Mashaal said his comments had been misinterpreted.
In a meeting Sunday, Hamas and Fatah officials said they would take steps to end the fighting. “They agreed to work together to strengthen national unity,” a Fatah official, Maher Mekdad, said, reading a joint statement.
But no agreement was reached on the flashpoint issue of control of the security forces, participants said. Outside the meeting, mediated by Egyptian security officials, thousands of Fatah supporters shouted anti-Hamas slogans.