^We do not beleive that Prophet pbuh made Imam Ali ra his successor.
I overlooked it earlier so commenting on it now.
When I said that Prophet made Ali everyone's Maula and heir then that's all I said. I am referring to ahadith at the time of Ghadir (for Ali being Maula) and Dhul-Asheera (for Ali being Heir). I did not use the term 'successor'. That's another discussion.
You should at least accept direct authentic words of Prophet. That's it. No need to read between the lines. Don't side-track the thread by starting other topics.
My point for bringing those two ahadith in discussion was not to prove Prophet's succession but to say that if tribalism of Banu Hashim is to blame then blame Prophet for giving us ahadith like above about his BROTHER fellow Banu-Hashmiite (tribalism).
Coming back to your original post:
The reason I made post no. 11 was your comment "The whole muslim community has been held hostage to fights of arab tribes to monarchy. "
Here you seem to say that all these discussions are political in nature. I said yes they are political but their implications are immense on from where you get religion. And so these political discussions are important.
Do you still have any objection on my post no. 11 for which you made the comment?