Imam Mehdi is here???

Thank you, for the seemingly balanced explanation.

I agree with you, but I still think there is bias in your 'underquote' of the hadith pertaining to Qur'an and 'Sunnah' as it seems to disguise the reality according to the more stronger and numerous hadith quotes on the version 'Qur'an and my Ahlul Bayt'. It is better to be specific here; there are so many Sunnis for example, I have spoken with, who keep coming up with the same hadith quote as a view to defend that being 'Sunni' as it were is justified through the weaker tradition.

One wonders furthermore at the attitude of certain Sahabah who had without doubt knowledge of the status of The Prophet Mohammed's family, and still opposed them by mobilising their armies to wage war, embroiling 'other' Sahabah at the same time, to fight the armies supporting Imam Ali.

I spoke to a Sunni Seyyed recently, within the shrine of Seyyedah Zainab in Syria, who attempted to avoid conversation on this matter, believing that it would cause 'fitna', whilst admitting that Mu'awiah was a 'shrewed' politician, and that he thought that what he did was 'wrong', and it is a 'very difficult pill to swallow', but 'we shouldn't criticise The Sahabah' .

Well, if it was haram to criticise, then why was it not haraam to kill, according to Mu'awiah? Criticism, in it's constructive sense is the very thing that helps us to understand each other, and in turn avoid potential bloodshed. This 'type' of criticism is what the father of Yazid himself was unable to accept and he instead preferred to wage war, merely to hold on to the reign of governance, which was his ultimate aim.

In letter no 10 in Nahjul Balagha, Imam Ali speaks to him

"O, Mu'awiah...You think you have come out seeking to avenge Uthman's blood. Certainly, you know how Uthman's blood was shed. If you want to avenge it, avenge it there"

I invite you to express your views, as I would be interested in knowing what you think, in view of the difference amongst 'The Ahle Sunnah', on the opinion of Yazid and his forefathers. Please respond to my blog (no one's commented on it yet!) 'Imam Ali's letter to Yazid's dad', on this site, if you may.

Wassalaam.

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^ Here is our point of view about Yazid, Make sure you listen to the full lecture:

DeenIslam.Com - Difa e Shan-e-Ali Al-Murtaza (AS) (Ilm-e-Hadith ki roshani mein)(Part-01)By:Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri

DeenIslam.Com - Difa e Shan-e-Ali Al-Murtaza (AS) (Ilm-e-Hadith ki roshani mein)(Part-02)By:Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri

I have just now actually been listening to a lecture by Tahir Qadri, which I must say was very impressive. I will not open up your link now to listen to the next lecture, but maybe later when I have time. My concern is not only with Yazid, being aware of the opinion that the majority of the Ahle Sunnah actually have of him, but that of his dad, Mu’awiah.

You mentioned earlier, about ‘learning’, rather than trying to ‘prove a point’.

Well there are some points I would like to ask you in genuinness, to know if you know, so to speak.

Did you know..

that Mu’awiah was a companion of the prophet, and also, the father of Yazid?

Did you know that Mu’awiah is referred to by the ahle Sunnah wal Jam’ah, with the request of ‘may Allah be pleased with him’ after his name?

Did you know that Mu’awiah waged a civil war against Imam Ali, during the time of his Khilaafat, which lasted for over a period of many months?

I am not sure. Perhaps you are not aware. I’ve asked many sunnis, and I don’t mean just as friends, but I have taught in schools where there are sizeable percentages of muslim children, secondary level. Many of them don’t even know the names of their own Caliphs, let alone who ‘Mu’awiah’ is. They haven’t been told.

Do YOU know who Mu’awiah is? Do YOU know he was a Sahabi of the Prophet? Do YOU know he fought Imam Ali? Do YOU know he was Yazid’s dad?

What’s your view on him. I want to know.

In the lecture I just watched, which I said, was impressive, Tahir al Qadri states that after the people of Madina found out what had happened to Imam Hussain (as) ie his head had been chopped off and his women had been paraded around the Muslim empire on ‘display’, they (the people of Madina) ‘broke their allegience with Yazid’. THEY BROKE THEIR 'ALLIEGENCE '(Baiyyat)…with YAZID. The fact that they gave it in the first place is SHOCKING. But it’s a fact.

The implication therefore, is that WHILST the battle of Karbala was ongoing and Shimr was slicing into Imam Hussein’s neck with a dagger, the people of Madina were sitting contentedly under the protectorate of their empire, Yazid son of Mu’awiah, radhiyyallah o anho.

As to who was ultimately responsible for Imam Hussain’s death, I believe the overpowering evidences, in regard to the political events leading toward the tragedy, are very clear.

The government, some how, ended up in the wrong hands.

Have you ever wondered HOW that happened?

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Many of the hadeeth are authentic; you knew that didn't you?

Allah (swt) said in the Quran to believe his Prophets; you knew that didn't you?

Actually, I didn't know that, and it sounds pretty absurd to me. The authenticity of a hadeeth can be achieved by the number of times it is transmitted and/or confirmed by other collectors/companions.

It doesn't matter when they were collected - whats of concern is regarding whats written therein. Some are fabricated, most are not.

Several and some, not all.

Different interpretations, but both agree that he will come. So whats the problem?

Not necessarily. He didn't indicate the emergence of AIDS or the world wars, did he? That is just your subjective opinion that everything that happens on earth must be revealed in the Quran.

Would it make a difference if He mentioned it in the Quran? At most, it would allure only those who choose a middle-ground in Islam, following the Quran, and ignoring the Prophet's words.

Good for you.

May be there is logic for it but you lack the intellectual breadth to comprehend?

No, thank you!
I'll take the words of the Prophet to be more authentic, especially since its a duty ordained on all Muslims by Allah (swt).

Cretinous analogy.

Already done it. And I already explained why you are an idiot.

Yes, He did tell us, and I fail to see the correlation.

If its beyond you, then don't worry about it. Let the wiser of people handle it.

Nothing happens to anyone that He has not fitted by nature to bear.

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Pewista reh Shajar se
Umide Bahar Rakh

I mean apne apne shajar se

Dekhen Kab Bahar Ati hai......

What u think ?