Imam Jafar Sadiq and his students {split discussion}

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Re: In defence of Hz Umar (ra) (In response to Pagluu’s Post)

None of the Hadith or history narrators of shiites has studied under any of 11 Imams.

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hey, gud to c that u even cameback. Nowhold on, show a little patience, whats the hurry? u r quick to point out ur questions that i supposedly didnt answer. What about the amount of stupid things u say and then try to pretend as if nothing ever happened (there is so many in this thread that i m not even counting them). haha, anyways, btw that book that u gave me the link for (have u read it yet?), that will give u detailed list of people who studied under the 6th Imam Jaffar As Sadiq (as) and who turned out to be Shia and who didn't etc. Its the 2nd last chapter, so have red or i will copy paste for u can not find the info.

As for the hadees u keep mentioning about the Khalifa Abu Bakr, i have asked u to start a new thread as it will mingly things up with the first khalifa here. Abu Bakr btw was a much better person than Umar and i respect him. And it is true that Imam Jaffar was from Abu Bakr's lineage from the mothers side. It was to Mohammad b Abi Bakr, who was a son and great sahabi of Imam Ali (as) and fought and defended Imam Ali against the curse of Muawiya and Ayesha in the battles of Jamal and Naharwan. He also tried famously to talk out Ayesha from her misdeeds in the battle firled of the Jamal (try to read this in history books). And btw Mohammad b Abi Bakr was assasinated by another of ur great so called sahabi damned Amr Ibn Aas lanatullah.

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Re: In defence of Hz Umar (ra) (In response to Pagluu’s Post)

^ no need to use profanities nusairee , plz list your scholars who were pupils of your imams

you dont need to enlighten us of the high status of martyr muhammad b abu bakr

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Please don’t so exited and side track the issue at hand.

Brother** Iconoclast **recommended that you read the book and gave link fro you to purchase it – and I gave you the link to read it for free you saving you a few bucks.

Instead of being grateful you have turned to abuse.

I surprised at you that you have come empty handed – it’s getting rather boring.

We have the following narration from Saheeh Bukhari - But it reinforces our belief.

*Al-Bukhari reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas: When (the dead body of) 'Umar was put on his deathbed, the people gathered around him and invoked (Allah) and prayed for him before the body was taken away, and I was amongst them. Suddenly I felt somebody taking hold of my shoulder and found out that he was 'Ali bin Abi Talib.

'Ali invoked Allah’s Mercy for 'Umar and said, "O 'Umar! You have not left behind you a person whose deeds I like to imitate and meet Allah with more than I like your deeds. By Allah! I always thought that Allah would keep you with your two companions, for very often I used to hear the Prophet saying, 'I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar went (somewhere); I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar entered (somewhere); and I, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar went out.*’ Saheeh Bukhari Volume:5 Book :57 (Companions of the Prophet)Number :34

This is from same Ibn Abbas (ra) who is pointed out in hadith of pen and paper.

You have run dry and are trying to open other issues – It won’t work.

Just answer the questions asked then we can move forward.

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And yes Ibne Sadique, if u want the names of the students of Imam Jaffar As Sadiq (as) then just look at the last 2 chapters of the book u recommended me. If u cant find em then let me know and i shall b obliged like a good boy to help u. Thanx