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That has not happened to anyone before?
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Perhaps, but in this case, the facts aren’t out there other than the Imam admitting having sex with a drunk woman, and the way you presented the Imam’s case is quite amusing … hence the 
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wow.
so THATS how they arrive at rape being a woman's fault.
after all...she aint nuthin but a sexual object.
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lussi, pay attention. someone else said that, not me.
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If a pious man can not resist a woman (drunk or otherwise), throwing herself on him, then he isn't as pious as he pretends to be.
What if it were a man that threw himself on a woman, would we forgive her as easily if she caved in?
Typical macho, patriarchal BS.
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Now that is disturbing. Any man with a shred of decency and honor would not take advantage of a drunk woman who is completely out of her senses. Is that all men are worth in ur view?
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First of all. people whose pious men have been convicted multitudinous times of raping young boys, should not resort to name calling pious men of other faiths who fell from grace from temptation and accepted their guilt…
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones…
Keep in mind, there is no hierarchy in Islam…Anyone can be an Imam and hence the term ‘pious’ does not refer to Islamic clergy…
Going back to the topic, temptation can be so strong, ther have been cases where parents forced their own children to have sex with them…
This was just a regular schmoe who made a mistake, (for which people who themselves might fall in the same temptation) are willing to hang…
My personal opinion is that he should not have admitted anything…Then let’s see what would have happened…
But then it wouldn’t have made the news, would it?
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:p someone should've quit while they were ahead.:p
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im sure he would have lied if he had the chance. he kept it up pretty well for two whole years didnt he.
and your personal opinion reeks. Hes not the first person to have admitted to his guilt. it doesnt make him a hero either!
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I am not one to hang someone from the yardarm just on the basis of what I read in the papers or hear in the news…
I prefer to give benefit of the doubt before hanging someone…
As for him keeping quiet, no one goes out and shouts their sins to other people…In Islam, if a person repents, his sin is forgotten…
She brought him to court, he admitted…That is enough honesty on his part to garner respect from me at least…
I personally know someone who was a party boy…Today you can listen to his lectures online…
Let me know if you wish to…Or are his sins still intact in your eyes and his character still subject to doubt…
I think everyone in this thread who wishes to hang a person for a mistake, reeks…Unforgiving and judgemental…
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speak about twisting religion to match your handbag and shoes.. lajjew, shame shame!
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i think enuff has been said,lets wrap it up boys n girls.
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What are you talking about? In your zeal to insult, you look like an a$$. You don't even know who 'my pious men' are. You don't have a clue. I wasn't insulting any faith or any one, just your post that excuses men for taking advantage of intoxicated women.
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People who live in glass houses should not throw stones...
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Too bad you don't take your own advice on this one. You must be neck deep in broken glass.
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Keep in mind, there is no hierarchy in Islam...Anyone can be an Imam and hence the term 'pious' does not refer to Islamic clergy...
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Pious should apply to anyone who pretends to be following God's word, not just clergy.
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Going back to the topic, temptation can be so strong, ther have been cases where parents forced their own children to have sex with them...
This was just a regular schmoe who made a mistake, (for which people who themselves might fall in the same temptation) are willing to hang...
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You are calling rape a mistake? Why, because the poor little man was tempted? Life is full of tempations, it doesn't mean when you cross the line you shouldn't be punished. And this coming from someone who advocates throwing people from the fold of Islam that don't meat your critieria of shariah. Typical male-centered egomania. Blame the woman because man can't control his animal urges.
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My personal opinion is that he should not have admitted anything...Then let's see what would have happened...
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So now you advocate lying? Are there any morals that are worth having, or just the ones that are really important - like praying 5 times a day and not treating non-Muslims as friends?
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Lajawab, why are you defending this Zani? There is no need to do that. He raped a woman and is convicted. He should pay the price and deserves all the verbal schlocking he gets.
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As for him keeping quiet, no one goes out and shouts their sins to other people...*In Islam, if a person repents, his sin is forgotten... * She brought him to court, he admitted...That is enough honesty on his part to garner respect from me at least...
1- i can agree with that, but if the victim wants his/her share back - then the convict has to be punished
2- once again lajawab, although - now he may have changed/altered his ways for good, it does not mean that he cannot be punished. See #1.
Islam does not say that if the aggressor repents, the victim rights to punish the aggressor are removed.
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LJ the person must havebeen known to be a party boy in hs yester years so there is atleast no hypocrisy there. If later he repented and is now delivering religious sermons good for him. This imam indulged in adultery in the house of God while he was a relgious leader. Office brings with it responsibility- earlier u said something about anyone can be an imam-maybe that is the problem with the muslim world today-anyone can be an imam! If this imam had been invited all the way from norway then surely he must have been just not any old gali mohallay ka imam but someone renowned for his religious knowledge.
and that comparison of urs with the guy who urinated in masjid-e-nabvi doesn;t fit well. That guy was not a relgious leader that others had placed their trust in and invited for englightenment.
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Lajawab Bhai,
Not that I dont believe your strong beliefs in your own understanding of Islam.
But from this thread looks like you are not defending Islam, but are defending the Imam, and that too only because he is a Muslim.
I would have loved to see your reaction had he been a Christian, Jew, Hindu.
You Dissappoint me
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lajjo
while he was convicted now, there is no indication about when teh case was filed. If the woman reported to the police whtin 72 hrs, they could have the dna evidence. Plus a jahil kath mullah probably does not know the 72 hr deal anyways.
hey I am not Casting stones on the guy. I am stating a fact that
1- adultery is wrong
#2- disrespecting a place of worship like that is very wrong
where does this “free pass” of yours go when you are foaming atthe mouth about “mod” muslims 
oh and the “man opf god” admitted to what he did, that is good, but that does not make his actions right…does it.
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If that was the case, then I’d had posted on the Catholic priest scandal…Look up all and every posts from that time period and see if I cared…They were neither people of my faith nor part my ‘men of God’ clan…
Probably the only thing I did contribute was when I compared Islam to Christianity and said how logical Islam is…It declares a person half a Muslim until he is married for a reason…
Apart form that, I didn’t care…
I don’t like pointing fingers because I am not a pious man myself…But when half assed Muslims start jumping the gib at someone who commits a mistake due to temptation or circumstances, I don’t hold back…
And as for defending Islam, I am most certainly defending Islam and most of the stinkies in here too…The case is sketchy, all I know is that a woman came forward 2 years afterwards and against all odds won a case of rape…
And here we are doing Tohmat, which is an egregious and a serious sin in Islam…So the man might have sought forgiveness and for all we know Allah :swt: would have forgiven him…
But the slanderers in this thread are neither forgiving nor restraining in passing judgement and throwing out Tohmat against Tohmat landing themselves in hot water with Allah :swt:…And for all we know, the man himself might have been forgiven while our erstwhile Muslims in this thread may be far far under the burden of sin than that Imam ever was…
The Holy Prophet :saw: said, if you can control two things, I can guarantee you paradise…When asked what they were, he replied, the flesh between your cheeks (tongue) and the flesh between your thighs (You know what that is)…
That Imam in a fit of passion or temptation couldn’t control the flesh between his thighs…What is the excuse of people in this thread that they can’t control the piece of flesh between their cheeks…(Since this is an online BB, they can’t control their fingers…They have a finger problem…) and are passing Tohmat upon Tohmat…
And heck, I’ll support him…He’s a Muslim and if I don’t look out what’s best for him, no Kuffar will…In fact they’d rather see him burnt…
Muslims are merciful unto each other and forgiving of one’s actions…
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Kamzoor angrezi wallon key liye:
The case was never filed AFTER two years, it merely took them 2 years to come up with the verdict so please come up with another theory to defend your beloved role model mau-lana.