"Image" of Allah swt

[Mirch]

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@Pagluu

Giving Allah (swt) a shape or form is in direct conflict with the essence of tawheed. Quran states ليس كمثله شيء, meaning NOTHING is like Him. There are fundamental problems if we start giving or imagining the Creator in shapes. Upon studying the Quran one will notice how Allah (swt) has not described His self with comparisons but rather his attributes are mentioned in a sense of comparison such as the verse " Allah is the light of the heavens and earth, the example of HIS light is.........."

Here is a few traditions from the household of the Prophet Mohammad (saww):

Imam Sadiq asked a man who said 'Allah is Greater' (Allahu Akbar), 'Greater than what?' So the man replied, 'Greater than everything', to which the Imam retorted, 'Then you have defined Him.' The man then asked him, 'So what should I say?' Imam replied, 'Say: Allah is too great for description.'

Imam 'Ali said; "He who [undertakes to] describe Him has defined Him, and he who defines Him has numbered Him, and he who numbers Him has nullified His eternity. He who ask 'How?' [about Allah] has indeed sough to describe Him, and he who asks 'Where?' has indeed confined Him."

" 'Allah means that worshipped one, by Whom people are bewildered, and to Whom they are submissive. Allah is the One veiled from the grasp of sights, and the One hidden from imagination and contemplation."

[Nahjul Balagha and Kitab al-Tawhid]

Jazaak Allah for sharing. I need to read Nahjul Balagha .
I heard a scholar saying that a guy was praying this which is Mashallah a great way of praying "Ya Allah teri rehamat mairay gunahoon sary bohat bari hay lihaza mairey gunahoon ko bahkh day"

" Allah your mercy is grander than my sins therefore please pardon all my sins."

Taking a cure from it I would say Allah is way grander than my imagination and I take it as a proof of Allah's existence for myself that I could never see Allah in dreams.

If I imagine Allah in my conscious state that is my human weakness and limitation of human imagination.

[Pagluu]

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@_H_NK

i've since childhood been told that allahmiyan is everywhere but i dont realy get a picture in my head, i just think of heaven..

[6:103] No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things.

[Pagluu]

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@Mirch

I heard a scholar saying that a guy was praying this which is Mashallah a great way of praying "Ya Allah teri rehamat mairay gunahoon sary bohat bari hay lihaza mairey gunahoon ko bahkh day"

" Allah your mercy is grander than my sins therefore please pardon all my sins."

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و إن رحمتک اوسع من ذنبي meaning "Your mercy is greater than my sins" is from one of the known supplications of Sha'ban of Imam Ali. You should look at a very beautiful dua known as 'supplication of Kumayl' which Imam Ali taught to Kumayl Ibn Ziyad Nikhai to be great on thursday nights.

[aqeel123]

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The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute. **Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and who recognises His like regards Him two; and who regards Him two recognises parts for Him; and who recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and who mistook Him pointed at Him; and who pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and who admitted limitations for Him numbered Him*.

(Imam Ali a.s)*

sorry didnt see Paglu bahi posted it already .

[Theorist]

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Interesting thread!

When I was a kid, I always imagined god to look like a puffed up cloud. Then slowly he morphed into an alien looking creature that had all the technology in the universe to control human beings. Then he took the form of the devil himself and now he doesn't exist.

[Muzna]

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Interesting thread!

When I was a kid, I always imagined god to look like a puffed up cloud. Then slowly he morphed into an alien looking creature that had all the technology in the universe to control human beings. Then he took the form of the devil himself and now he doesn't exist.

This is interesting and disturbing both at the same time.
I'm quite intrigued to know what traumatic experiences you have lived through to taint your vision of Him in such a way.
Perhaps you just needed a hug somewhere along the way and didn't get one?

[Theorist]

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^No, no traumatic experiences to account for. I was a weird child though.

[Muzna]

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@Theorist

^No, no traumatic experiences to account for. I was a weird child though.

Perhaps there was an experience but you simply don’t recall it…or you’ve blocked it somewhere cuz nobody goes from fluffy clouds to the devil without cause…I’m sure of it.

Maybe it wasn’t a single event but a series of events…like being neglected by those that you wanted attention from and this caused you to create a persona of uniqueness that demands attention…

[Theorist]

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^Nope

I never really believed to be honest. I never thought about it hard enough and when I did, I realized I never believed in God to begin with.

[Muzna]

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^ Not believing in Him is one thing......but seeing Him as a "devil" is entirely another thing......unless of course that comment was made for th e purpose of sensationalism......

[Theorist]

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^Your definition of the devil is very different than mine so I can see why it may have seemed that way. I apologize for sounding offensive.

[lethal_kamikaze]

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