i thought you opened up a thread because you had a side in you that wanted to change. or maybe that was what i was hoping for. i dont know. i honestly cannot understand how or why gay people think the way they do. its really hard for me to understand.
anyway. best of luck to you whatever life has in store for you. peace.
But i think you are going outside the fold of iman, by asserting haram as halal.
I dont want to say that you are becoming kufr. But you words sure indicated that.
R U really muslim?
Or some hindu or christian just here to vaste evrybodies time.
TT Dude.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST:
1) YOU GO TO A MUSLIM PYSHICHIATRIST
2) HAVE A MEETING WITH A MUSLIM SCHOLAR
3) PUT MORE EFFORT IN STRIVING FOR TREATMNETS/WAYS TO REDUCE YOUR GAY TENDENCCIES THAN THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN TO MAKE YOURSELF BEING ACCEPTED.
BOTTOM LINE DUDE: EVEN IF WE ALL ACCEPTED YOU AS YOU ARE, OUR ACCEPTANCE DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE, ALLAH WILL NOT ACCEPT YOU INTO HEAVEN AS A GAY.
HE COMANDS EVERYBODY TO STRIVE AGAINST THIER WRONG NAF.S IN THE KORAN.
WE ALL HAVE TO FIGHT AND STRIVE AGAISNT OUR WEAKNESS/SINS/BAD HABITS.TENDENCCIES.
SO DO YOU BROTHER.
I AM ONLY WRITING IN CAPTIALS TO MAKE MY MESSAGE MORE BOLD AND CLEAR, A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THIS WHOLE THREADS ADVICES TO YOU, NOT TO SHOUT OR CONDEMN YOU BROTHER.
AND THERE DO EXIST MODERN MEDICAL THERAPIES FOR COMBATING HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES, YOU MUST RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATE ON THESE....GOOGLE WOULD BE A GOOD START.
IT IS PRAISWORTHY YOU ARE NOT ENGAGING IN ANY HOMOSEXUAL ACTIONS, ALLLAH COMMENDS YOU FOR THIS, HOWEVER YOU MUST STILL GET RID OF THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM of HOMO.S.URGE, AS YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RESIST FOR EVER.
Just one thing. since Pakifry said k Allah will Judge etc.. Allah has Alreaddy in the past Judged on this Issue of Homosexuality.
The Nation of Hazrat Lut AS was wiped off the face of the Earth because one of their major sin and setback was that the Nation became homosexual. even the Hazrat Luts wife, was beleived to be part of it. This Qaum was destroyed.
So what do u think will happen to those who are ‘‘Looti’’ as its pharsed in Islamic Terminology. in the Prophet SAWs Ummah. beleive it or not but am sure that person will be dealt with , worser than the nation of Loot AS.
Previos nations were destroyed due to their actions. Now when it came to our nation. its Ordered by Allah to learn lessons from the previous nations as to what they did and what happend to them, and therefore abstain from those actions.
so ermm the part about Allah Judging the homos. Am sure Allah will be alot more strict, and i dunt think easy forgiving on this Issue.
Allah and His messenger know BEST.
Ps. Not attacking u or anything but your not gay are you ..
But i think you are going outside the fold of iman, by asserting haram as halal.
I dont want to say that you are becoming kufr. But you words sure indicated that.
R U really muslim?
Or some hindu or christian just here to vaste evrybodies time.
TT Dude.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST:
1) YOU GO TO A MUSLIM PYSHICHIATRIST
2) HAVE A MEETING WITH A MUSLIM SCHOLAR
3) PUT MORE EFFORT IN STRIVING FOR TREATMNETS/WAYS TO REDUCE YOUR GAY TENDENCCIES THAN THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN TO MAKE YOURSELF BEING ACCEPTED.
BOTTOM LINE DUDE: EVEN IF WE ALL ACCEPTED YOU AS YOU ARE, OUR ACCEPTANCE DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE, ALLAH WILL NOT ACCEPT YOU INTO HEAVEN AS A GAY.
HE COMANDS EVERYBODY TO STRIVE AGAINST THIER WRONG NAF.S IN THE KORAN.
WE ALL HAVE TO FIGHT AND STRIVE AGAISNT OUR WEAKNESS/SINS/BAD HABITS.TENDENCCIES.
SO DO YOU BROTHER.
I AM ONLY WRITING IN CAPTIALS TO MAKE MY MESSAGE MORE BOLD AND CLEAR, A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THIS WHOLE THREADS ADVICES TO YOU, NOT TO SHOUT OR CONDEMN YOU BROTHER.
AND THERE DO EXIST MODERN MEDICAL THERAPIES FOR COMBATING HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES, YOU MUST RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATE ON THESE....GOOGLE WOULD BE A GOOD START.
IT IS PRAISWORTHY YOU ARE NOT ENGAGING IN ANY HOMOSEXUAL ACTIONS, ALLLAH COMMENDS YOU FOR THIS, HOWEVER YOU MUST STILL GET RID OF THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM of HOMO.S.URGE, AS YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RESIST FOR EVER.
-so I understand that us pakistanis believe that gays are the scum of the earth so what am i to do.
-let me start by saying, it is not a choice. i can remember liking boys back when i was three years of age and over the years it has not changed, i'm in my 20's now.
-Here are the reasons I will not marry a girl:
1) it will not be fair for the girl
2) most of my family already has an idea that girls don't really appeal to me so it would be extremely awkward being with a girl knowing that my family knows that i have a thing for boys
-my family and i live in north america and we aren't the most religious family, but we are pakistani
-plz don't recite the Quran to me, yes i know what it says about homosexuality
-Don't think that suicide hasn't crossed my mind. me killing myself would be more damaging to my family then me telling them i'm gay
-plz, i want to hear what you have to say about pakistanis being gay
Hey let me get this straight.
Are you gay by birth ? means you can't get ur lil dinky up or
or you are gay by choice.
If the reason is later then you deserve to be shot.
if you are gay by birth then I feel sorry for you, but it doesn't mean you have to have sex.
There are plenty of meaningful things other then su-cking kocks.
hopefully you get your mind straight soon and live a life the way nature intended.
cheers my confused friend!!
Paki-fairy your long philosipicol post is extremly ignorant and stupid.
Your main basis is that our 'misintrepreations' of Gods views on homosexual people are due to the 'misguided narrow minded imams and mullahs'
Fairy-tale let me tell you that Our understanding and intrpretations of Koran do not come from 'ordinary' mullahs or imamn.
They come from Past and Present SCHOLARS of ISLAM.
Scholars are referred to in the koran as the ones with the lofiest ranks amongst the muslims who will be in the highest levels of paradise.
In other words The Scholars in islam are known as the Authorities in Knowledge.
And of the millions of schoalars throughout past and present you will find no scholar who differeniates in the issue of Gayness and its Prohibition in Islam.
SO BASICALLY DO YOU THINK THAT ALLL THESE GUYS WERE MISTAKEN IN THIER INTREPRETATON OF KORAN AND HADITH BY SAYING GAYNESS IS PROHIBITED.
AND WITH YOUR SOLE PETTY OPPOSITION? WHO R U ANYWAY?
I think its great that you refuse to adopt a way of life (heterosexuality) that clearly isn't you. Don't be sorry for who you are. Homosexuality isn't a choice, you're right. People are born gay or lesbian and it has nothing to do with their choices. I think its really sad that people may blame you or suggest that you should seek forgiveness because you never asked to be gay, you were born gay. Its similar to saying a person born with cancer should be ashamed of themselves. I hope someday the world, especially Pakistanis, open up their close-minded views if they homo-phobes.
^ I am yet to learn if some peopl are really 'born gay', it seems to be an interesting point if true.
I have heard of some people especialy in pakistan being born with both sexes or abnormal reproductive body parts, in which sense one could emphatise with them.
But i do not know about being born gay. We know that it hormones that distinguish the sexes. maybe some peoples had problems with thier body/ endocrine system development, which made them tend towards the wrong side.
However in respect to this, hormonal medical therapy is today avalible and in widespread use.
People are even using and have succesfully used hormonal thepary to change thier sex.
Being a homosexual and being a hermaphrodite are clearly two different things. Think of it like this: as a straight male, you never woke up one morning and "chose" to be straight. Its just something you felt inside and I'm sure that as hard as you tried, you could not pretend to be gay. Homosexuality works the same way.
Also, taking HRT for something that isnt life-threatening or seriously bothering you is plain stupid as its known to cause cancer. Plus, I highly doubt any hormonal supplements could cure gay people of their "ailement".
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Its not really about whether you buy it or not or whether its written by gay people or straight people. I don't understand why we need yet another reason to discriminate against one another. People just enjoy hating.