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yes, Women can be so mean and cruel.
I would get on oral contraceptive pills (birth control pills). it helps with hirutism and also with the acne. It's is what is prescribed for PCOS.
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Go see another doctor...you probably have pcos which causes a hormonal imbalance-regular symptoms include acne and abnormal hair growth. And dont let any doctor dismiss your symptoms- if one wont help you and ask them to refer you to one that will. As for people making fun of you or being unsympatetic, karma truly is a b*^ch, so dont worry about it :)
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Where do you live ? ASK
I found some information on smplyhairremoval.com , it has very good information for people like you. Anyway here is the info.
Cost of Electrolysis Hair Removal Treatment
Electrolysis costs between $50 and $150 an hour with significant variations between cities, regions and countries. Most salons charge in minimum increments of 10 minutes or so of treatment. This is quite useful in reducing costs when you get to the end of your course of treatment and require just a few hairs to be removed.
Even at the beginning of a course of treatment, unwanted hair from a small area such as the upper lip can be treated in about 15 minutes whereas a larger area such as the back or legs would take much longer - maybe an hour or more.
As the treatment may have to be repeated many times to ensure that all the hairs have been permanently removed you need to factor into the cost the number of electrolysis treatments you will need and unfortunately this is almost impossible to predict. You may find you need just a few sessions to deal with your excess hair or you may need (as I did) to make regular visits to the electrologist for over a year to achieve permanent hair removal.
If you want to go for electrolysis it is probably safer to ensure that you either have a very flexible budget or you can finance your hair removal treatments each month from the money you have within that month - then it's just like a regular appointment at the beautician for a waxing or other beauty treatment. And, in fact, electrolysis costs no more than many beauty treatments you might pay for but this one has permanent results!
In some circumstances, however, it may feel it is better to go for laser treatment especially for removing hair from larger areas of your body if it works out as a more affordable (and less time consuming) option for you, at least in the short term.
You really have to weigh up the benefits of achieving permanent removal of excess hair against the cost and time factor when looking at the price of electrolysis versus the price of laser hair removal because you are not comparing like results. Lasers have only been shown to achieve permanent hair reduction and not removal so you will need ongoing maintenance treatments with laser hair removal which are expensive on an ongoing basis. For more information on this see
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Definitely go get checked for PCOS. You will be relieved either way..
Not sure what else to say but much support from my way to you <3
You might want to visit a gynecologist and not just a GP.
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You've gotten good advice. And you're not alone.
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I have known an aunty who under went major fertility treatments for many years of her life and during that she developed the same problem as yours she still has this issue and like others have mentioned that it has got something to do with hormonal imbalance.
and it happens with many many young girls too and by co-incidence I can say that during my various hospitalisation I saw 2-3 nurses with same issue and they were pretty young.
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how about nono? did u try this one???
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I don't think many people realize how much of a self-esteem issue these problems can cause. Don't let yourself be bothered, it's not like anyone is perfect. I know easier said than done, specially when people can be so in-your-face. I've had skin issues and it's amazing how random people on bus find it obligatory to comment and give unasked for advices.
And yup if you still haven't got it checked, do consult a Dr. for possible PCOS.
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sigh psyah, this is a complicated issue on which you clearly have very little knowledge. it is not helping to try and wrongly attribute it to being women's own fault. in fact, that is making me feel nauseous.
i agree, it's good to eat fresh food and healthy. but it's wrong to say this is linked to what these women are going through.
i don't wanna go through the pain of waxing and threading every month either and i was considering electrolysis but psyah thinks laser treatment will leave my skin rough. is it true?
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have spearmint tea two cups a day … it reduces masculine hormones in the women’s bodies such as testosterone that can make women grow hair on their faces …
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hareem01 don't quote me on cosmetics apparently I don't know what I'm talking about ... Of course electrolysis will help!
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hareem - not sure if it was a typo or not but laser and electrolysis are two completely different techniques. I would never recommend laser for the face as it can (and has done in many cases) stimulate dormant follicles to start producing hair.. so people end up hairier. Please refer to the quote in one of my posts explaining hormonally sensitive areas, like a woman's face.
However, Laser, unless something has gone very wrong, will generally improve the condition of the skin by reducing acne and fading scarring. The body areas I've Laser on are much improved in terms of skin condition.
Electrolysis can leave your skin in perfect condition (it may need a short healing period) - you are only targeting the follicular stem cells, one hair at a time. the On the contrary, the treading and waxing you are doing is much worse for the hair and skin. It's not only strengthening the follicles but the waxing is a quick route to early wrinkles. One of the first things my electrologist said to me was, "You have very nice skin (which I was surprised at, given I went through about 10 years of acne), let's keep it that way". I'd say my skin currently looks better than ever. All the natural skincare stuff I have learnt on my electrolysis journey has definitely helped.
psyah - I don't want to get into an argument with you but I hope you can trust that I know my stuff in this respect and it's not to presumptuous of me believe that you do not and are just making random guesses.
We are all born with a certain number of hair follicles and most are dormant until they are stimulated to start producing hair. Puberty and menopause are two such extreme cases. Men generally find they will get steadily hairier over time. For some reason, unknown, many women have slightly elevated levels of androgens and the follicles show greater sensitivity to them. There's nothing 'wrong' enough for a hormonal problem to be diagnosed, that's just 'normal' for these women. Both my sister and I had the starting of a tache and sideburns before puberty, at puberty 'bam' - a whole face of hair. Where was the makeup? Neither of us started wearing makeup until very late teens. If you want to question our diets, I invite you, hareem and the boys for dinner at my parents house any time you are free. You and brother will get on like a house on fire btw. You will see the absence of any carbonated drinks, minimal processed food and ajwa dates, honey and zum zum all year around.
I'm not saying all this is definitely unlinked to our diets because no one knows for sure, if it does it's in a more complex way than anyone could know or do anything about - the stuff added to the water we drink? Is it possible that hormones that the animals are fed are still in the meat or milk?... etc etc.
Anyway, I don't feel I need to explain my own case to you as I could not care less what you or anyone else thinks. I spent years researching, trying to understand and chose the best option. But I have a duty to all other women to dispel myths. I see and hear ALL the time the struggle women are going through and I know I can help them. The relatives of relatives who come to me and confess that they've developed an extreme amount of tummy hair or chest hair that they've been hiding and what can they do? Women who think they are the only ones that have nipple hair, when the reality is, if you don't you're in the minority. In fact, I'd say degrees of hairiness are completely normal in women (and probably were 100 years ago as well). What has changed is that society does not find it acceptable and even then, women do not need to suffer with it.
Do not belittle this.
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Be careful. That much spearmint tea daily has made some people very ill. Google it.
Anyway, if you read that article carefully, it’s inconclusive. If a woman does have a hormonal problem, getting it under control will only stop the continued stimulation of dormant follicles. It won’t get rid of the hair that has already developed. You will need electrolysis (or laser if you want to go that way) for that.
From the same bbc article:
The researchers found a significant decrease in free (active) testosterone in the blood and an increase in several female hormones including follicle-stimulating hormone.
However, there was no decrease in overall testosterone levels, suggesting that more of the hormone was bound to protein in the bloodstream and was inactive.
Spearmint could affect the metabolism of hormones such as testosterone or directly affect synthesis of androgen hormones, the researchers suggest.
More work is needed to test the reliability of spearmint in treating mild hirsutism, warned lead researcher, Professor Mehmet Numan Tamer.
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i feel for u bcos i hv the same problem.. i had laser done, made no difference so iv resulted to hving it waxed- its been the best thing for me and amazingly the hair has reduced.. i used to get so frustrated becos i would pluck a couple of hairs out on my chin to find they had grown back the next day but since iv been waxing the hairs arent as dark.. i no a lot of ppl will disapprove but u have to do wots best for u n u find that thru experimenting- be careful though..
as for maintaining urself, im married & trust me after marriage (depending on ur relationship with ur husband) u can laugh about it..i no its time to get it waxed wen my husband says to me 'ur beards bigger than mine lol
try not to stress n the only way to avoid comments is to avoid sitting too close to other women (sounds sad but thats wot i do becos i hate ppl commenting) or try to laugh about it n blame the hormones
sorry im not much help! but trust me ur not alone xx
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hareem - not sure if it was a typo or not but laser and electrolysis are two completely different techniques. I would never recommend laser for the face as it can (and has done in many cases) stimulate dormant follicles to start producing hair.. so people end up hairier. Please refer to the quote in one of my posts explaining hormonally sensitive areas, like a woman's face. However, Laser, unless something has gone very wrong, will generally improve the condition of the skin by reducing acne and fading scarring. The body areas I've Laser on are much improved in terms of skin condition. Electrolysis can leave your skin in perfect condition (it may need a short healing period) - you are only targeting the follicular stem cells, one hair at a time. the On the contrary, the treading and waxing you are doing is much worse for the hair and skin. It's not only strengthening the follicles but the waxing is a quick route to early wrinkles. One of the first things my electrologist said to me was, "You have very nice skin (which I was surprised at, given I went through about 10 years of acne), let's keep it that way". I'd say my skin currently looks better than ever. All the natural skincare stuff I have learnt on my electrolysis journey has definitely helped.
psyah - I don't want to get into an argument with you but I hope you can trust that I know my stuff in this respect and it's not to presumptuous of me believe that you do not and are just making random guesses.
We are all born with a certain number of hair follicles and most are dormant until they are stimulated to start producing hair. Puberty and menopause are two such extreme cases. Men generally find they will get steadily hairier over time. For some reason, unknown, many women have slightly elevated levels of androgens and the follicles show greater sensitivity to them. There's nothing 'wrong' enough for a hormonal problem to be diagnosed, that's just 'normal' for these women. Both my sister and I had the starting of a tache and sideburns before puberty, at puberty 'bam' - a whole face of hair. Where was the makeup? Neither of us started wearing makeup until very late teens. If you want to question our diets, I invite you, hareem and the boys for dinner at my parents house any time you are free. You and brother will get on like a house on fire btw. You will see the absence of any carbonated drinks, minimal processed food and ajwa dates, honey and zum zum all year around. I'm not saying all this is definitely unlinked to our diets because no one knows for sure, if it does it's in a more complex way than anyone could know or do anything about - the stuff added to the water we drink? Is it possible that hormones that the animals are fed are still in the meat or milk?... etc etc.
Anyway, I don't feel I need to explain my own case to you as I could not care less what you or anyone else thinks. I spent years researching, trying to understand and chose the best option. But I have a duty to all other women to dispel myths. I see and hear ALL the time the struggle women are going through and I know I can help them. The relatives of relatives who come to me and confess that they've developed an extreme amount of tummy hair or chest hair that they've been hiding and what can they do? Women who think they are the only ones that have nipple hair, when the reality is, if you don't you're in the minority. In fact, I'd say degrees of hairiness are completely normal in women (and probably were 100 years ago as well). What has changed is that society does not find it acceptable and even then, women do not need to suffer with it.
Do not belittle this.
thank you for a detailed reply. i thought that electrolysis is a new name for the laser treatment and i mentioned the word "laser treatment" to my husband. i'm gonna save up for electrolysis coz i don't want pain and wrinkles and other side effects caused by waxing/threading. i trust you.
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No problem. If you want to learn more about laser, there is my sticky in the fashion forum. It’s a good read for general knowledge and so you know how they are different. As for electrolysis, I’m working on a similar guide to explain it all, it’s a bit more complicated though as there are different types and techniques. I will pm you some other information about it that I think you may find interesting as well.
Also, electrolysis is very old! It’s been around for something like a century. The famous Rita Hayworth had it done back in the 30’s, many celebrities still have it done now as it’s the only safe, permanent technique.
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I'm nowhere near a doctor but don't you think it's a hormonal imbalance, especially if your periods are not regular, your GP probably won't know much about it so if he says that all's normal, that's because he doesn't know what to do. i suggest you consult a dermatologist or a gynecologist
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Cinnamolroll, In the UK some GPs know alot and are quite good and you cant see a dermatologist or gynaecologist unless you go through your GP :)
Also OP if the GP does refer you he will refer you to an endocrinologist.
no offence cinnamon :)
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I 100% agree that anyone suffering should get their GP to do the relavent tests and if needed refer to an endocrinologist. What you do not want is for the GP to make assumptions and pawn you off with some anti androgenic BCP, which is what happened to the OP.
But the unfortunate fact is, if you have no other symptoms than excess hair, in many cases there is no strict hormonal problem that needs addressing. The only thing you can do is get rid of the hair, temporarily or permanently.
As I mentioned before, no drugs can reverse what has happened. Just stop the stimulation of new follicles. Some women have actually found out about their hormonal conditions when they are undergoing electrolysis and find that the hair keeps coming back.
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Cinnamolroll, In the UK some GPs know alot and are quite good and you cant see a dermatologist or gynaecologist unless you go through your GP :)
Also OP if the GP does refer you he will refer you to an endocrinologist.
no offence cinnamon :)
oops sorry i had no idea that's how it worked in the uk