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If Bush gets reelected this year, that means he can't run again in 2008 right ? Due to the two-term restriction principle.
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Yeah. Thank God for small mercies.
I think they are referring to Jeb Bush.
Just what this country needs 
As if 2 sub par presidencies aren’t enough.
Nadia, maybe Faisal meant Jeb Bush (current Governor of Florida). He is surely going to make a run for the presidency in '08 whether W wins in 2004 or not.
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That's fabulous, let's all continue to live in our mutual hatreds of each other.
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Nadia, Nadia- Saying that I don't give a sh1t about who the French think should be our president doesn't mean that I hate them. It just means I don't give a sh!t.
What are your feelings about the average American's opinion on Islam?
Oh yes, I meant Jeb. Sorry, I didn't realize not everyone is current on Bush family tree :o
yeah Faisal, did you knwo Bush has a sister as well : Doro Bush Koch :D
He also has a dog named Barney that could probably follow orders from the neo cons just as well and not mangle the English language or break as many promises. Barney for president!
^ remember semi, the fundos don't like dogs either...
Stick your nose in other people’s business, and others will stick theirs in yours. Quite a simple concept really. Too bad these ingenious, perseverant people can’t grasp it.
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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
Saari duniya bewaqoof, aur aik aadmi ko pata hai ke kiya hona chahiyay.
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Considering most people in the Pakistani, Saudi, Jordanian and EU country Foriegn Services think the same thing as me i am not one person. Secondly the people in the diplomatic core know alot more about the way the american system works than the average guppie (who thinks that the administration is responsible for stuff like the Patriot act).
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Stick your nose in other people's business, and others will stick theirs in yours. Quite a simple concept really.
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Someone obviously has his nose (& probably his whole head) stuck somewhere.
"diplomatic core"
They are that knowledgeable? I thought only the "Diplomatic Corps " would know the inner workings of the US system.
As far as the Patriot Act is concerned, do some research. The Sedition Acts during WWI make the Patriot Act look like childs' play. And it is indeed the vigor with which laws are pursued that is the province of the Administration.
By the way, the diplomat label is being thrown around quite a bit lately. All that "diplomat" means is that you don't have to pay parking tickets in foreign countries. Most are worthless, at worst they are dangerous.
A typo is all you pick up on eh?
Diplomats from what i have noticed are very well versed in the actions and undertakings of various countries and esp. the US as most of them are educated there.
Dangerous eh? So much for an intellectual discussion. After all the men bring peace to any war sitaution have been diplomats. Your own government has an excellent selection of Ambassadors. Just because you ignorant of how these people work and their function, that does not mean that they do nothing.
Edit: Sentences didnt make sense and typos.
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Stick your nose in other people's business, and others will stick theirs in yours. Quite a simple concept really. Too bad these ingenious, perseverant people can't grasp it.
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If the US didn't stick its nose in other people's business, you'd either be speaking German, Russian, Japanse or Chinese, your madrassah would not even exist and Saddam would still be murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Being the most powerful nation has its responsibilities but maybe I'd think the same way if I were living in a developing country. Perhaps one has to be part of the diplomatic core to understand these complex geopolitical realities, if only we had such an esteemed guppy to share his views.
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If the US didn't stick its nose in other people's business, you'd either be speaking German, Russian, Japanse or Chinese, your madrassah would not even exist and Saddam would still be murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Being the most powerful nation has its responsibilities but maybe I'd think the same way if I were living in a developing country. Perhaps one has to be part of the diplomatic core to understand these complex geopolitical realities, if only we had such an esteemed guppy to share his views.
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Hey it's a two way street. Have fun kicking everybody's butt by all means, you have earned it, but also be prepared for the consequences and responsibilites that come with being a so called super hero.
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If the US didn't stick its nose in other people's business, you'd either be speaking German, Russian, Japanse or Chinese, your madrassah would not even exist and Saddam would still be murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims.
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I'm not backing the Nazi party, but I have to say that factually, this part of your post is distinctly questionable since it ignored the reality of the 1939-1943 era.
We'd still be speaking Urdu and Hindi still, probably with German being taught as the secondary language instead of English. Remember, Hitler had, until 1943, an Indian-government-in-exile led by Subhash Bose sitting in Berlin waiting to take over the reigns of power in India once it had been liberated from the Allies (from the Indian Nationalist perspective; the Pakistan movement having backed the Allied cause instead)
The madrassahs would still exist, though they would be teaching the corrupted Nazi-tainted version of Islam taught in the madrassahs set up by the Nazi party to provide clerics for the Muslim volunteers fighting in the German army and in the Waffen SS.
Also, Saddam probably would not have had a chance to seize power, because Nazi-sympathising Iraqi politcians were waiting for a German victory in North Africa before overthrowing the Iraqi monarchy and creating a new German-backed Iraqi state. A Gestapo-trained Iraqi secret service, whilst probably not very pleasant at all, would also be likely to be competent enough to crush the Baath party at birth.
These what-if scenarious are definitely more fun to read then rest of the boring current affairs.
"After all the men bring peace to any war sitaution have been diplomats."
Needing further edits apparently.
Most ambassadors are political hacks, while the real professionals deal with the more mundane.
Semi, remember this is the generation with no apprecaition for the past. The most horrible thing in the world is what was on Al-Jazeera two minutes ago.
What the heck, let Saddam go, and Milosevic too. After all, Saddam got 99% of the vote.....
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Hey it's a two way street. Have fun kicking everybody's butt by all means, you have earned it, but also be prepared for the consequences and responsibilites that come with being a so called super hero.
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No one said it's easy being the super power and I don't pretend it's been done perfectly by the US. But I do know that compared to the super powers of world history the US is a benevolent nation. Count your lucky stars it is a responsibility you will never have to bear.
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No one said it's easy being the super power and I don't pretend it's been done perfectly by the US. But I do know that compared to the super powers of world history the US is a benevolent nation. Count your lucky stars it is a responsibility you will never have to bear.
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Well boo hoo, if the US is looking for sympathy I'm afraid it would be very hard pressed to find any. As they say, it's lonely at the top.