Losing hope is haraam? 
Tell me, at a time of darkness, how far does one have to fall for heaven to catch them?
WHAT? our Prophet(SAW) contemplated what? You know what, i DOUBT that. He was perfection.
No fret, YOU are retarded. Retardedness. The retarded wizard :(
where did u get this from???
Have never been in so bad situations to contemplate sucide. Things alway work out one way or the other.
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*Originally posted by sadzzz: *
i didnt know thinking about it was also haram... hmm geez i have sinned in this department too!
hmm i havent actually contemplated on going ahead with suicide.. but it has crossed my mind.. (no i aint depressed.. could be.. hmm) but ive thought bout how it would feel.. what would ones reaction be at committing such an act.. i mean just thoughts basically..
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Its not gunah to think about it, its gunah to contemplate or plan it. Life's tough out there and people not always get all the breaks that they could.
I don't think Islam is so tough to punish just trivial thoughts. One has to have the the proper thoughts to come up with the right decision. If you don't think about thievery then you can't police properly. If one doesn't think about hacking then you can't create the proper security policy. Thinking of suicide and its consequences is healthy, it makes you realize what can go wrong.
^^ it is gunnah because you are thinking about something which only Allah :swt: has right over which is your life…It’s nauzubillah thinking like a Firaaun who thought he was nauzubillah god…He just thought he was god, didn’t make him Allah :swt: nauzubillah, yet you know the price he paid for his thinking as such…
Even the thought of suicide is strictly forbidden…And I mean strictly…
Allah :swt: guide us and enlighten us, Ameen…
I don't quite agree. One can't always control one's mind. God made the mind. If u can sit here and tell me that if u see (or hear) someone drink a lemonade (and ur in roza) and u think of that lemonade, is ur roza broken? I think not. Remember, roza is one of the 5 pillars.
^ yes i agree tofibaba. one naturally has no control over random thopughts and so Islam forgives thoughts that cross a persons mind involuntarily however if one starts thinking about the forbiddedn thing voluntarily, thats forbiddedn. We can analyze ourself the line between voluntary and involuntary thoughts. For instance if while fasting one gets a thought about a juicy steak and large coke its ok, but if the person starts marvelling at it, drooling and fanatsizing eating it, that would be wrong.
This topis was already discussed.
Suicide is haraam, but y da hell r all these miseries not haraam too. Y doz ALLAH Almighty keep giving us sufferings...? I'm again in a stage where everythn around me is fked. I said in da prev thread, have hope, but I'm tryin 2 find that ray of hope & all I can see is darkness & a shadow of storms. Its been a year. I want help too, now u tell me what da hell am I supposed 2 do??? Keep hope, fine, but I think I need more than just hope, I need Hazrat Khizr R.A 2 help me out here. I hope da Almighty ALLAH ans my prayers.AMEEN
mal1k,
i can so understand your disgust and present thoughts. Getting out of the storm is haram, but why is the stormthere anyway!? why is there misery, bad luck and all...? theres so much confusion that all these thoughts would call for another thread... what is luck? destiny? why do we get punished for what we are predestined to do? why are some ppl princes and some paupers? when in distress what is THE WAY to get hold of ones self and solve the problems....
in the end again, faith and hope and sticking to religion is the only answer. troubles come and by Allah's mercy go, faith must remain.
May Allah bless us all.
and, what is it that's troubling you? if you'd like you can discuss it with me, PM me if you want, I'd be me more than willing to counsel in any way i can. talking to someone who understand, relate, comprehend in any way at all is very good and imp for a distressed soul.
July 2003, I came home & I picked up a gun 2 my head in front of my sisters. It was empty, but da threat was real.
I dun need counselling. Lots have done it, I just need a break, A BIG BREAK. Either me, or just me...:(
I need an ounce of luck too, it just seems here that my fate has run dry, & I need some rain, rain which will wash away my troubles, & then I need luck again. I wan2 escape. There is just no light. I've become blind.
Almighty plz help me, if u can hear me this ramadan. I dunno y I'm choosing this thread, but my communication channel has been blocked. IF U sit online ALLAH, send me a PM & fix my problems please.
malik you sound very very deep into some kind of crap, and i can make out there would be no use saying any of the usual crap to try and calm you down or make you feel better cause the way you talk i feel youre really really hurt. youre doing the right thing talking to God, He is the only one who tests us and then rewards us, patience and faith is what he test us for...i wish i could help out some way cause i know how one feels in extremely helpless situations...I can pary and hope for the best to happen to you. You are always welcome to share and discuss, no matter how mnay time youve tried counselling etc, it does help, each time in a diff way. Have Faith, read the Quran-translation. May Allah reward you and help you out.
Me thinking that as a conquer falls from a tree and cracks, is split open. Maybe man too is falling. Some will find root and blossom, others rendered obselete.
What about atheists, or hindus, why do they not go through what they see is their only way out?
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malik you sound very very deep into some kind of crap, and i can make out there would be no use saying any of the usual crap to try and calm you down or make you feel better cause the way you talk i feel youre really really hurt. youre doing the right thing talking to God, He is the only one who tests us and then rewards us, patience and faith is what he test us for...i wish i could help out some way cause i know how one feels in extremely helpless situations...I can pary and hope for the best to happen to you. You are always welcome to share and discuss, no matter how mnay time youve tried counselling etc, it does help, each time in a diff way. Have Faith, read the Quran-translation. May Allah reward you and help you out.
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Faith is da only aspect, I've got left now haris. I know ALLAH listens, I'm on da waiting list.
I'm not really really hurt...I'm Xtremely, deeply hurt by da social injustice with me. Every1nz turn a blind eye on me, I'm just waiting 4 ALLAH's justice, I've left everything on ALLAH, I could have never done all of this, its fate, so I've bestowed everything on ALLAH 2 sort out my matters.
Thanks haris. I might open a thread in da near future in religion.
mal1k
i'm glad to know you have strong faith. indeed it is the only thing that picks up a man from the ground and takes him to the heights of the heavens and lack of it can throw a man from the sky to the ground. Allah has said that he tests us, wants us to be everthankful, patient and praiseworthy of His kindness and Control. He just doesnt want us to forget Him, and those who have Him in their hearts, Allah makes them successful; that's what Allah has said, it's just man that keeps on forgetting who Allah is. May He have mercy on all of us!
Hope you had great Eid mal1k! :)
hiccup,
hindus do believe in afterlives and consider suicide to be evil and a sin, infact i think most religions consider it a sin and something that would cause punishment in the next life.
Atheists however dont belive in anything...
"Me thinking that as a conquer falls from a tree and cracks, is split open. Maybe man too is falling. Some will find root and blossom, others rendered obselete."
ur line is worth thinking...