"If I were an American Muslim, I might be getting a little angry".

The Restraint of America’s Muslims

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The restraint of America’s Muslims

LOS ANGELES — If I were an American Muslim, I might be getting a little angry.

Just listen to this: “Islam is like a virus, it affects the mind. It is a cancer that destroys the body it infects. The Koran is simply the ‘software’ for producing deviant cancer-cell political behavior and violence in human beings. No doctor would hesitate to eliminate cancer cells from the body.”

Those are the considered views of one of the two authors of the anti-Kerry book: “Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry.”

Or how about this? In a Florida high school earlier this month, a 15-year-old Muslim girl, her account backed up in writing by at least four non-Muslim students in her history class, complained to authorities that the teacher made fun of her last name as sounding like Saddam Hussein’s and said all Muslims were suicidal terrorists who must kill at least one American. (The Florida office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations has lodged a formal complaint that the school is investigating.)

And who can ever forget (answer: perhaps our commander-in-chief) the remarks of U.S. Army Lt. Gen. William Boykin, who publicly called the war on terrorism a battle with “Satan,” claimed America had been targeted “because we’re a Christian nation,” and condemned Allah as “an idol,” compared to the “real God,” Christ.

If you were Islamic, mightn’t you get a little hot under the collar?

What’s therefore astonishing is the restraint of America’s Muslims. There are more than 5 million of them, about two-thirds clustered in 10 states. But while Jewish-American groups have long had a profound impact on U.S. politics, Muslim Americans have not yet.

That may be changing. In the 2000 presidential election, many registered Muslim Americans voted for Republican George Bush. They responded warmly to his emphasis on conservative family values, and his outspoken opposition to detaining any American citizen, including Muslims, without proper safeguards. But with the widely publicized brutal treatment of detained Muslims in Iraq, the rise of the U.S. Patriot Act, Republican support for even tougher such legislation, and the failure to discipline Boykin, Muslims have begun to worry that the Christian Bush’s praise for Islam as a “religion of peace” may be lip service at best.

One poll showed Bush’s 83-percent 2001 favorable rating among Muslims to have been cut at least in half; another poll of Arab-American voters in four key electoral states (Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania) placed the president’s approval rating at about 30 percent; a recent poll by the Council on American-Islamic Relations revealed Muslims much less inclined to vote for Bush than Kerry, about whom, however, they were so far anything but enthused.

Fortunately for Bush, these figures are in flux, and Muslim Americans, rather than being some sort of predictable monolithic voting bloc, are human beings like most of the rest of us who go into the voting booth with a variety of concerns. When we bluntly asked Matt Vray in the political office of the Washington-based Muslim American Society how U.S. Muslims will vote in November, he snapped back: “Every Muslim has a free will to vote as they’d like.”

Quite so: Muslim Americans have the absolute right to expect to be regarded as human beings and not stereotyped as group suicide bombers.

In a recent speech, Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, insisting that Muslims have only themselves to blame for the poor image of Islam today, told the world’s 1 billion Muslims that they must modernize their faith, avoid mainstreaming extremists and spurn violence to resolve differences.

It was a brave and welcome speech, especially before an Islamic conference. But it is simply not true that Muslims are wholly to blame for their worldwide image problem. The West’s many bigots who poison the political dialogue with ignorance or evil are responsible, too.

Such people are the new Ku Klux Klan in today’s globalized world. Fanning the flames of intense religious and ethnic hatred, they comprise the new intellectual lynch mobs that bode to someday scorch the political Earth.

Neither President Bush, nor for that matter challenger John Kerry, appear to comprehend what is at stake. At a time when the world desperately needs a strong and clear voice to light the darkness and lead us out of the caves of ignorance and hatred, political pygmies, or religious bigots, stand in the way of progress. It’s a tragedy in the making. And it’s not the American way.

UCLA professor Tom Plate, a member of the Pacific Council on International Policy, is the founder of the Asia Pacific Media Network (www.asiamedia.ucla.edu).

This is just example of how racist and how bigoted the US really is.

If islam was sword wielding madmen then why are the muslims of New York, chicago, california, texas and other cities where they are based in large numbers not going around killing people or drinking the blood of children as portrayed by the fanatics in the US media and Bible bashers?

They like to label wholesale a group in bad way they done it throughout thier history before it was what they call black people now its muslims.

the so called black people complained about not getting fair trials in court, muslims now saying they don’t even get a trial! :eek:

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*Originally posted by ak47: *

If islam was sword wielding madmen then why are the muslims of New York, chicago, california, texas and other cities where they are based in large numbers not going around killing people or drinking the blood of children as portrayed by the fanatics in the US media and Bible bashers?

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Because the majority of them are 'mod muslims'?

:hehe: You mean like you do in every one of your posts (including this one). Look in the mirror before being so judgmental of others.

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*Originally posted by Judge^MentuLL: *

Because the majority of them are 'mod muslims'?
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Thats bit of a generalised statement which has no value what is mod muslim?

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*Originally posted by ak47: *

Thats bit of a generalised statement which has no value...
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You mean like this statement?

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This is just example of how racist and how bigoted the US really is.
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Re: "If I were an American Muslim, I might be getting a little angry".

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*Originally posted by Nawaz A: *
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LOS ANGELES — If I were an American Muslim, I might be getting a little angry.
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Ramblings of individuals aside, American Muslims will be treated the way they treat their non-Muslim neighbors.

For Pakistani Americans, it is absolutely important to stay away from the Araab's suicidal tendencies.

Araab kids who were born and raised in US are willing to go boom. I hope Paks do not follow the same route.

Unfortunately UK Paks didn't protect their kids and two South Asian kids have already gone boom.

God save us all from boomaniacs!

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
You mean like this statement?

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The question is about mod muslims something you have no idea about judging from your useless posts.

Re: "If I were an American Muslim, I might be getting a little angry".

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*Originally posted by Nawaz A: *
In a recent speech, Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, insisting that Muslims have only themselves to blame for the poor image of Islam today, told the world's 1 billion Muslims that they must modernize their faith, avoid mainstreaming extremists and spurn violence to resolve differences.
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I am not sure what he means by "modernize the faith", but the rest I agree with. The last one, a bit hypocriticially, ofcourse. And by that I mean that it is always nice to have the option to resolve differences through warfare (after negotiations have failed), if we are in a position of power (militarily speaking). In current times since we are fairly weak in both conventional or nuclear warfare, a peaceful resolution is what we should aim for.

By the way, how does the above statement sit with those who insist on Jihad being the 'sixth pillar' and that we must all be willing to start a jihad to resolve all differences.

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The question is about mod muslims something you have no idea about judging from your useless posts.
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Is it? I thought it was the labeling of Amerikkka as racist and bigoted based on the statements of 3 people while accusing others of generalized statements with no value. Let's not go into 'useless posts'.

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Ramblings of individuals aside, American Muslims will be treated the way they treat their non-Muslim neighbors.
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I have been trying to comprehend your extremely prejudice and preposterous remark against Muslims of The United States "American Muslims will be treated the way they treat their non-Muslim neighbors" but I have not yet been able to conceive the idea. According to your post you seem to believe that it was OK for a teacher in Florida to make fun of a 15 year old child, ridicule her in front of a whole class, and try to deprive her of her self-esteem. I as a Muslim would not in any way support such a bias behavior against any one regard less of their race, ethnic background or religion for that matter. I don't think that you have the slightest idea that what you are talking about; I believe that you are mesmerized by the spellbinding propaganda of the Jewish controlled media. Further more I strongly believe that Muslims are the most law abiding citizens of the United States.

^ You don't support bias behavior yet you believe that "Muslims are the most law abiding citizens". Sounds like bias to me. Maybe you are mesmerized by the pharisaical teachings of your iman.

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Thats bit of a generalised statement which has no value what is mod muslim?
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You want me to provide you with links to your like-minded bro Lajawab who has dedicated whole threads to this term mod muslim in various threads?

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Is it? I thought it was the labeling of Amerikkka as racist and bigoted based on the statements of 3 people while accusing others of generalized statements with no value. Let's not go into 'useless posts'.
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amerikka is racist and it has a big racial problem are you denying even this blatant fact.

how are you treating the latino community what are they labelled as this month maids and valets

How about the muslims sword wielding and bomb makers

Blacks labelled as muggers and criminals and you sayin US does'nt have a racial problem thanks for the laugh amusing NOT!

And most of your posts are useless nothing of value at all most of your posts are 3 lines long shows the attention span is lacking also.

Pardon me Seminole I am going to rephrase a whole line for you
Further more I strongly believe that Muslims are ONE OF the most law abiding citizens of the United States but that's not the point the point is
Is it OK for a teacher to emotionally abuse a 15 year old child just because she belongs to a certain religious group?

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You want me to provide you with links to your like-minded bro Lajawab who has dedicated whole threads to this term mod muslim in various threads?
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I cannot comment on others brothers posts you take that up with them.

Mod Muslim i find this term comes from west in general, they wish to have a muslim who is mostly secular and sometimes goes to jumma prayer if they can be bothered and also they celebrate Eid occasionaly.

this is the ideal secular muslim that the West intrested in, if muslims starts to think for themself and become political then it becomes an issue for western governments!

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*Originally posted by Nawaz A: *
Pardon me Seminole I am going to rephrase a whole line for you
Further more I strongly believe that Muslims are ONE OF the most law abiding citizens of the United States but that's not the point the point is
Is it OK for a teacher to emotionally abuse a 15 year old child just because she belongs to a certain religious group?

ONE OF

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Of course what the Florida teacher said and did is not OK. It's not OK when some teacher engages in sexual relations with an underage student either. It's not OK when some teacher makes an ethnic joke (be it at the expense of jews, blacks, polish people, Muslims or others).

The problem with the article quoted above is that it seems to suggest that this single cited incident is somehow reflective of what is being taught in our schools generally and that American Muslims are showing some kind of "restraint" by not getting real mad about it and doing something. Recognizing the incident as isolated and wrong and having the school board take appropriate disciplinary action is no great sign of "restraint" in my book.

As to Muslims being one of the most law abiding groups in the US, I don't think it's fair to single out any group like that and make such a generalization. People aren't law abiding or law breaking based upon religious or racial traits. A Black person or a white person doesn't break the law because he/she is black or white. He/she breaks the law for other reasons.

Further, I presume that in making that statement, you somehow distinguish between black, American born converts to Islam and other Muslims who are immigrants and/or first or second generation Americans having an immigrant geneology.

That American teacher just had a little fun nothing else. As a teacher she is absolutely wrong, must be punished. But, why to create why so much noise, only because her target is a Muslim girl? If she were a black Christian, a Hindu or a white American, people know how to ignore such incidents.
There is some greater complex hidden.
But Muslims blame anyone of racism. Are they really ignorant of the setup in Islamic states? (Alas, for that there is one readymade answer, these are not real Islamic states.)

The teacher is an idiot if the incident that is reported actually occurred, which I have no reason to believe it did not.

anjjan, you comments about Muslims “blame anyone of racism”, is itself a generalization. :frusty:

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*Originally posted by Nawaz A: *

*I have been trying to comprehend your extremely prejudice and preposterous remark **against Muslims of The United States "American Muslims will be treated the way they treat their non-Muslim neighbors" **but I have not yet been able to conceive the idea. *.....
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That's alright kido! Think a little harder and you will be able to understand my philosophy. Also try to avoid the company of Mullah-Aya-Tullah cabal. That may help in improving the IQ.

If all else fails, contact me for one-on-one seminar (for a small fee off course)

Khuda Hafiz