…I would have a three phase propgram to bring the Ummah out of this little hiccup in history…
First, I would begin a program called ‘Basic Training’…
This would include the teachings and explanings of the Ahadith…I have come to believe that if Quran is the straightener of the communal whole, the Ahadith are about the betterment of the soul…
This would include the finest Islamic scholars and as well as the-best that-we-can-afford education…The best of every knowledge will be made to the Muslims, not necessarily of some sepcific country…All this knowledge that we would gain would have to wielded responsibly…All this information would be of no use if there were no moral principle guiding this knowledge for something better…These scholars would provide that knowledge…
Next we have this fantastic resource of ours…Man-power…Right now it is wandering, looking for the best opportunity to come by and guide it…This resource can be tapped by giving these people a direction…All they need is a focus…
Lastly, action…Act…Movement, change, adaptation, alteration flow with the times…Metamorphosis is very important…Change forms to meet the impending change…Like a lizard, which changes its color to get its prey, so too will your enemy come at you…Do not underestimate your enemy (Well, you can, but then you’d have to be very brave)…
The Buddhists failed to adapt and now don’t even have a land of their own…Theirs was truly a religion dedicated for worship…Unfortunately, they got the very opposite of what they desired…Peace…
How would you act?
P.S. One thing to remember…The seat of Islamic leadership is given, not taken…If you command trust, you command the lives of people…It is the people and their scholars that decide if the Islamic leader is worth being one…One can’t come up to a podium and claim that, 'I am an Islamic leader."…And This is the true exemplar of the democratic principle…
.. nice thoughts but they cant be effective in these random directions.. look what happened to Zia's shariat! poor, hungry thiefs got their feet cut off but all wealthy thiefs were not touched.. haad was implemented as first line of action than taazeer..
What our nation and society today needs is a complete social justice system as promised by Islam.. everybody can be practicing muslim in Pakistan and Islamic laws are there but no one actually follows them.. the struggle between have and have-nots is there.. there is absolutely no social justice to start with.. look at condition of innocent people in jails.. police tortore, our justice system.. education resources for rich..a large population doesnt have potable water.. there are wordly gods in shape of Pirs etc.. people want respect as humans first.. one can implement any rules or regulations they will have no impact unless some social justice is enforced..
Do you think currently the Islamic "ummah" in general doesn't do exactly that?? Their whole life is shaped around "Ahadith".. their lifestyle, culture, rituals are all borrowed from these Ahadith..
The question to ask is.. where has all this taken the Ummah?? Has abandoning the Qur'an made life easier or miserable for Muslims?
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teaching Ahadith?? following Ahadith??
Do you think currently the Islamic "ummah" in general doesn't do exactly that?? Their whole life is shaped around "Ahadith".. their lifestyle, culture, rituals are all borrowed from these Ahadith..
The question to ask is.. where has all this taken the Ummah?? Has abandoning the Qur'an made life easier or miserable for Muslims?
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It is sad that some people have remained bereft of the bounties of Ahadith...They are called the Quraneen...They follow only the Quran and not Ahadith...
They say only Quran is the untampered source, the Ahadith are false...They fail to realize that what makes them Muslims comes from Ahadith, the salat, without which there are no five pillars...How would we pray if it weren't for Ahadith and Sunnah that we knew what salat was?...
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It is sad that some people have remained bereft of the bounties of Ahadith...They are called the Quraneen...They follow only the Quran and not Ahadith...
They say only Quran is the untampered source, the Ahadith are false...They fail to realize that what makes them Muslims comes from Ahadith, the salat, without which there are no five pillars...How would we pray if it weren't for Ahadith and Sunnah that we knew what salat was?...
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Dear Lajawab, I know there are people who say Quran is the only source of religion, and reject the ahadith. However, you had said that not even a single scholar follows the Sunnah. In reply to that I have shown you the syllabus of the 8th year in Darse Nizamia taught in almost all Madrassas in Pakistan, which is completely about hadith. Kindly comment on that.
yes Lajawab.. some people.. not all, follow the Qur'an.. which makes the majority Muslims today followers of hadith.. their lives, laws and rituals are around these narrations.. so what more could you do as a leader?
Given that the Muslim nations have been following that brand of Islam for hundreds of years now.. would u think it would be of any benefit to them to pursue it further with increased vigor? Who invests more in plans that have proven to be utter failures???
PI, I am glad they teach Ahadith at Dars-e-Nizamiya...I said 'leader', not scholar...
PA, I don't see any Ahadith being followed...the Ahadith about lives, neighbors, society, others, bribery, usury e.t.c....How many Ahadith do you find being implemented? Name one...And anyways, Ahadith are never imposed...They are followed...
That the lives, neighbors, society etc you talk about is already based on Hadith literature.. All the above are concepts inculcated into Muslims through Hadiths.. so to deny the influence on Islam is ridiculous and to think any increase if possible of that influence would bring about any positive changs is akin to wearing blinkers.
A positive change can be brought by changing from the current path.. the prevalent belief system established on 'majority consensus' rulings and revert to the Qur'an .. That's the kinda ruler the 'Ummah' needs today.. who has the courage to provide the Muslim world a break from these books and an about turn towards the Qur'an .. the Criterion.
The Quran is the law. It is by means of which a just and secure society is established. The Ahadith are a guidance for personal excellence.
You must have heard of the phrase, ‘follow the prophet’s footsteps’…Well, those that follow it the closest are the best, and Ahadith are footsteps for you to follow. Stepping stones if you will…
"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, leave it. And fear Allah: truly Allah is severe in punishment. " [Qur’an 59:7]
What are you taking from the Holy Prophet :saw:? Like I said, poor is the man who does not benefit from words that make you great.
Come to the point Lajawab.. i’m not here to correct your misunderstandings about various verses of the Qur’an.. we’re here to discuss the current state of the ‘Ummah’ and how a leader would ‘improve’ it..
Majority of the Ummah does “benefit from the words of the Prophet” or so they believe.. that’s the prevalent view and widely accepted. Look where it has taken the Ummah as a whole..
.. think about it next time you’re taking off your shoes and letting a ‘na-mehrum’ pat you over to pass through security at an airport …
PI and PA, knowing something is far different than following it. Though Muslim ummah knows/agrees to what you have posted, but thats not all they believe and believing in these alone does not constitute the reason of failure. You forgot to mention "Honesty", "Faith" and several other major factors which ummah is lacking.
PI mentioned the course which is being taught in the Madrassa/Islamic universities, but being taught and following the same are entirely different issues again. You have learnt/read so many rules in your life, have you really followed them all? You may have, but majority of ummah does not.
Remember the time when Maulana Fazalur Rehman became cabinet member of Benazir Bhutto? before Elections he was against Woman being leader of the country and it was "Haram" later on he became a part of very same government, does that not tell you something?
