What would he be doing now? 
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God wouldn’t be smacking his head over nonsense questions from humans like this one…yeah?
Also you’re talking as If humans are the only creation. LOL
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I will answer your post in two parts.
God wouldn’d be smacking? But you did. Wonder why?
Anyhow, the question was written with some thought and each word was used carefully, and added word of ‘now’ and smiliey were used on purpose.
Too bad you did not catch that for some reason. I suspect, you read it very casually without thinking and gave your ‘fatwa’ of this being nonsense. That is alright.
The question here has very unusual and hypothetical situation. Very logical and stimulating to people who can understand it.
It is a multifaceted question.
Right or wrong answer… Let’s wait.
Hint: The question could be answered in religious way or not so religious way.
I do not want to take away the oppurtunity from any other reader to answer so I will stop here.
Nowhere in my question I suggested that. That is your own imagination my friend.
Glad, I made you laugh.
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What would he be doing now? :)
Enjoying worship from other creatures that HE created.
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Enjoying worship from other creatures that HE created.
Good.
You used the word enjoying. great. :)
Also good thougt provocation on 'other creation'.
At the time of creation of human being we can say he had some reaons to create human being. For enjoyment? Maybe.
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Good.
You used the word enjoying. great. :)
Also good thougt provocation on 'other creation'.
At the time of creation of human being we can say he had some reaons to create human being. For enjoyment? Maybe.
Other creation e.g. Angels.
Creating Human beings to see how many recognize HIM and stand the test of time and become blessed.
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Other creation e.g. Angels.
Creating Human beings to see how many recognize HIM and stand the test of time and become blessed.
Yes one good and strongly plausible reason.
We say God is free of 'needs', but is he really? Being recognized is one motive of human creation as you mentioned.
So if he had not created human, what would have been the situation.
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My "smacking head" comment wasn't meant to be serious, but it seems that people here don't have a sense to spot such things...
Anyway, I don't think that deep thoughts were given before you decided to raise this question at all.
Can you tell me what exactly God is doing NOW? If you can't answer this question, then asking what God would be doing If there weren't human beings is needless.
Once again, people are asking questions and making comments without even knowing the proper definition of God in Islam.
So if he had not created human, what would have been the situation.
Humans aren't the only creation with a free will...
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amused by the dinosaurs
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Yes one good and strongly plausible reason.
We say God is free of 'needs', but is he really? Being recognized is one motive of human creation as you mentioned.
So if he had not created human, what would have been the situation.
God is free of needs. It is not true that God is compelled in any way. The reason for our Creation is so we can recognise God not so that He can be recognised. Our reason for being created is to serve our own need to recognise Him. It is not that He needs to be recognised, rather that it is befitting of Him to be recognised by what He can make, so He made everything out of Mercy, which simultaneously became manifest as the Creation. The Creation is Created in Mercy, the Mercy is for the Creation. They both come together - He made us in pairs, in every possible sense.
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^Circular reasoning. We wouldn't have the need to recognize Him if we weren't created. Thus, no comprehensible reason for creation.
But I like that God has no needs.
As for your post diwana, what do you think He is doing right now? He is clearly not sitting there counting each person's good vs. bad deeds and deciding which wishes to grant. He can't be judging us, because it is an all-loving God who created us in his image.
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What would he be doing now? :)
whatever he was doing before he created humans ... or will be doing between the dooms day and judgment day as no one human would be alive and no one knows the gap between those two days.
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amused by the dinosaurs
LOL
God is free of needs. It is not true that God is compelled in any way. The reason for our Creation is so we can recognise God not so that He can be recognised. Our reason for being created is to serve our own need to recognise Him. It is not that He needs to be recognised, rather that it is befitting of Him to be recognised by what He can make, so He made everything out of Mercy, which simultaneously became manifest as the Creation. The Creation is Created in Mercy, the Mercy is for the Creation. They both come together - He made us in pairs, in every possible sense.
All the bold parts psyah bhai with all due respect, do not seeem to be correct.
1- God created human. Human did not exist till human was created.
2- Hence, the need was not even there to recognize God till God created us.
3- Mercyful creation? "He made everything out of mercy?" How come? If we were not created, then how good or bad it would have been to us human? If we were not created, then there would not have been any need for talking about mercy or wrath on us. Right?
^Circular reasoning. We wouldn't have the need to recognize Him if we weren't created. Thus, no comprehensible reason for creation.
But I like that God has no needs.
As for your post diwana, what do you think He is doing right now? He is clearly not sitting there counting each person's good vs. bad deeds and deciding which wishes to grant. He can't be judging us, because it is an all-loving God who created us in his image.
As to your first part where you said about circular reasing. I tend to agree. I answered along the same way as above.
Since we are not 'created' out of our own choice, we should be thankful?
I do not know if you can understand Urdu, but the poet said it beautifully:
Laai Hayaat Aaye, Qazaa Le Chali, Chaley
Apni Khushi Na Aaye, Na Apni Khushi Chaley
I love the last bold part for another meaning of 'chaley'. :)
whatever he was doing before he created humans ... or will be doing between the dooms day and judgment day as no one human would be alive and no one knows the gap between those two days.
Did you mean it does not matter to him if he had created human or not?
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what would HE be doing now....
am i suppose to be bothered!!!!!! I don't think so..... as its said a human mind has been permitted to ONLY think till he is capable of.... and to not think about what has he brought for about in this universe!!!!
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Dude, you didn't answer my question. What is God doing NOW?
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Dude, you didn't answer my question. What is God doing NOW?
Sorry 'dude' I missed that.
God is watching the universe including us. :)
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Did you mean it does not matter to him if he had created human or not?
I am not sure if it did matter. If not humans then some other specie living in some other planet would've serve the purpose.
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Sorry 'dude' I missed that.
God is watching the universe including us. :)
Nice try.
If this really was a serious response, then you should be able to figure out the answer to your original question. Good luck.
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I am not sure if it did matter. If not humans then some other specie living in some other planet would've serve the purpose.
Yes, indeed. That is one good answer.
But he did create human and no where his books or his words mention he has other species fulfilling the reason same as for human creation.
I am getting towards the importance of human being in this whole universe and God's decision to create human being in its form as religion makes us believe.
Nice try.
If this really was a serious response, then you should be able to figure out the answer to your original question. Good luck.
I think my answer was very simple and so to speak complete.
I he almight had not created us then nothing would have matter to us, but isn't it interesting that God decided to create us?
It did matter to him that WE (specifically us) are created. :)
Are we not important then?
Human race has a dignity. And respect as whole even in the eyes of God. :)
Some views are exactly opposite, which I disagree that human has no value in the eyes of God or he does not care if we recognize him or not.
Despite he has a plan to destroy the earth, still he will keep human close to him-(with fulfillment of certain provisions by human which he has set).