If a Muslim Converts ?

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Salam fellows,

I have heared from a friend that if a muslim converts to some other religion and then spreads it, his penalty is death… is that true ? and if u agree with this, then do you have anything to back it up ?.. any resource ?
Thanks
wasalam
Aqeel

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Brother,
This is a well-known fact that a muslim can NOT abandon his/her religion and become something else without a religious punishment. In an islamic country he will have to go through the punishment.
However, Muslims living in Non-islamic countries may escape this punishment.
I dont think I have to back it up with any sources etc, as It is a well known fact. ask any Local Imam etc.

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Thanks for the reply, i will try to find it out by different means too, anyway do u get the punishment only if u convert, or only if u convert and SPREAD different religion ?

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My answer may not help, but it is a relevant information.

If muslim become non-muslim he charged with "ghadari",I believe in most countries punishment of "ghadari" is execution.

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so lets say someone converts from some other religion to islam, is he not considered ghadaar by the people follwoing his old relgion ?

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that is up to ppl from hi old religion.

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Hmm okay thanks for reply :)

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what i have read in quran that the punishment for munkir is death..and one of my religious friend told me that munkir are these muslim converters like ahmedi

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Such a person should be killed immediately. The sooner he meets his/hers maker the better. One should always take matters into their own hands and leave nothing to chance...you know stuff like Allah is the best judge...nah dont pay attention to that.

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hmm, okay anyway if somebody can get the me the ayya where punishment for munkir is execution, i wud admire it.

Plus i thought munkir is a person with nifaaq in there heart .. like they act muslim from outside but from inside they are kafir and dunt believe in ALLAH and his Prophet s.a.w

does anybody know anyone who has done so .. i mean converted from Islam to some other religion ? i remember reading profile of one srilankan cricket player who did i it ... i cant recall who it was that but he was playing the team quiet recently ... he probably is still in team..

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the people u explained i think so r called munafiq

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rite rite rite ... Munfiq are those having nifaaq... Those who do shirk are mushrik ... Munkir, i think you r rite, i also think mukir and nakeer are two angels who will meet bad people in there grave and they will ask questions.

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During war time if someone deserts the punishment is death...........same as in western societies..........US shot one deserter in WWII.

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thats like a betrayal to our religion,THE PROPHET S.A.W PBUH AND ALLAH S.W.T AND ALL HIS MAKINGZ

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Quran has not specified the death penalty in clear cut terms, for a Murtadd or apostate as it is called in English ,as it has done so for many crimes. That makes sense too religion is between Allah and a person . Reverting from Islam is not a crime against humanity or a war crime . Quran has prescribed punishments for crimes against humanity and for those who engage in wars with Muslims or break treaties with Muslims
Only through twisted tafaseer of some verses and using some very gruesome and twisted ahadees it is proved that Islam has prescribed death penalty for a murtadd/apostate.

You can find some details here:

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There is no compulsion in Islam for those who were born Mulim , who converted and then reverted , for those who are non beliveres.

This long list of verses from the Holy Quran and the Traditions of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him) show that Islam at it's core and at its source is a religion of peace.

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).
6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.
4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."
11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°
17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.
21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."
22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."
88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'
39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.
42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....
64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.
67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."
60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.

The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how to government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.
"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)
"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)
"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)
"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)
"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

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Thanks Mirch. Very Convincing.

people who are oppsoing it havent shown any reffernce, so basically i think this is one of the laws that is just there coz people think its according to Quran and sunnat without making sure.

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some 239th thread in this forum asking this same question.

Doing a little search on this forum can be helpful some time :k:

Answer is simple

I have said few dozen time and saying it again :

Contrary to general muslim belief,** Inflicting any physical harm or killing an apostate(who lives peacefully and is not involved in malicious activities) is forbidden in holy quran**

The person who is involved in anti-state activities, can be killed or punished accordingly, if found guilty. That person can be an apostate or a muslim or a non-muslim.

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