IDF soldier Kidnapped in Gaza

Well, all things considered I would rather have the Palestinians messing with the IDF than civilians. However the Israelis are really cranked up about one of their soldiers being kidnapped, particularly when Israel abandoned their settlements earlier. If this soldier is not returned within a day or two, it could trigger a massive incursion by the IDF into Gaza, and of course a great number of casualties.

"Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Monday ruled out negotiations with the Palestinian captors of kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, promising a “broad and ongoing” military offensive in the Gaza Strip. But even as Israel massed forces along the Gaza border, large-scale military action appeared unlikely. Officials said they were still pursuing a diplomatic solution and conceded a broad attack would threaten the soldier’s life.

After more than 24 hours of silence, the terrorists holding Cpl. Shalit issued their first demands Monday. The groups, all linked to the Hamas-led Palestinian government, called for the release of all Palestinian women and children under 18 held in Israeli prisons in return for information about Shalit.
Olmert rejected the demand. Addressing Jewish leaders in Jerusalem Monday evening, Olmert charged that Sunday’s Palestinian attack on an army post near Kerem Shalom and the abduction of the soldier were part of a “murderous, hateful, fanatical Islamic extremist desire to destroy the state of Israel.”
He declared, “This is not a matter of negotiations, this is not a matter of bargaining … release of prisoners is absolutely not on the agenda of the Israeli government.”
Speaking earlier to a tourism conference in Jerusalem, Olmert said he held the entire Palestinian leadership responsible for Shalit’s safety and warned that his patience was wearing thin. “I gave the orders to our military commanders to prepare the army for a broad and ongoing military operation to strike the terrorist leaders and all those involved,” he said. “It should be clear. There will be immunity for no one.”
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Imprisoning women and children is just as low as kidnapping the IDF soldier however I guess there are no more rules in that region. Each one does what they are capable of doing. In reality it is that bad down there.

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All these terrorists want in return of the kidnapped soldier is the release of women and children who shouldnt be in prison in the first place. This information is conveniently missed out. If Israel decides to go on a rampage; the kidnappers shud go ahead get him done with. no IDF is worth the sh1t on their shoe.

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Esp. the ones who sit outside the malls protecting them from suicide bombers right?

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yeah and the next day shooting a bullet through a 4 yr old? sick things if u ask me.

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You haven't a problem with terror organizations firing rockets at Israel in populated areas thoughout Gaza though do ya?

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pardon me; are we talking about rockets being fired? is that why IDF's about to go on a rampage?

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Israel should stop firing rockets that kill Palestinian kids and women.

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since the escalators of the violence are always the palestinians, it is the palestinians who should stop firing rockets into Israel

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We'll let's hope for the release of the soldier.

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This is a great propoganda coup for Israel

Arabs are just too dum to realize it.

In the week, when American soldiers in Iraq were kidnapped and brutally murdered. Israel can make the same claim about its soldier being kidnapped.

This will cause great symapthy for Israel.

Arabs wonder why their cries go unheard in USA?

Why should USA give a damn about Arab causes when Arabs are constantly shooting themselves in the foot with such stupid acts?

What does kidnapping this soldier going to achieve?

No way in hell, would Israel create a prisoner exchange program because Israel would fear that this would only lead to more kidnapping of its soldier.

And Pakistanis are right behind Arabs in their level of stupidy, giving legitimacy to such acts and beleiveing Arab conspiracy theories.

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What do we know about the women and children they want releaesed? Were they involved in a crime or terrorism? If so it doesn't matter what their gender or age. The machismos shooting guns off in the air should have thought about that before they recruited them for terror. If they are innocent then they should be freed without threats and kidnappings by Palestinians.

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no concern for the women and children? very selective.

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How many female sucide bombers and kids suicide bombers have infiltrated Israel?

LOTS....

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How many Israeli soldiers are responsible for death of innocent civilians? NONE.

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This is the proximate timeline for the events mentioned herein.
A ceasefire is declared.
Israel evacuates Gaza.
Palestinians shoot 50 to 80 Rockets per month into Israeli towns.
Israelis try to kill rocket shooters and assasinate leaders of the Rocket shooters.
Palestinian beach goers are blown up. (By whom, who knows)
Cease fire is broken. (No one was counting the 50-80 rockets per month in the ceasefire anyway).
Palestinians dig tunnel, and attack IDF troops in retribution for blowing up beach goers, which of course was to stop the rocket launchers who never respected the cease-fire.

Anyway, here we are with one soldier captured, the entire state of Israel pissed off about it, and a world of hurt is about to crash down on the Palestinians, most of all the innocent women and children of Gaza.

Now in the advanced logic of the Middle-East, the Palestinians will not give back the one soldier, and the Israelis will not give back any prisoners. Instead, a huge section of Gaza will be flattened, Leadership houses destroyed, the economy of Gaza brought to a standstill, and perhaps hundreds killed.

Hamas will declare the dead to be glorious martyrs, and will try to call the incursion a war crime (forgetting that 80 rockets are, basically 80 causes for war outside the Middle East). The Israelis will hake their heads and ask if they have to kill every Palestinian before they figure out they are beaten. The West will shake their heads and make politically correct mumblings. Al-Jazeera will have 24 hour specials on the atrocities, real or created. The Arab world will mutter politically correct outrage in public, and mutter "Stupid frikkin' Palestinians", in private.

A month from now nobody will remember.

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they may be responsible, but how many did it deliberatley

there is a major difference between intent to kill or accicdently kill

even the US justice system makes such difference whether you had the intent to kill or was accicdently killed

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LOL. very true interpretations of these events

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I understand the Palestinians viewpoint. The are a strong people and won't be beaten, I just hope the cooler heads who realize the long term consequences of actions and reactions prevail and defuse the situation.

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I say they get the soldier done with.