ICC's bowls a bouncer to the bowlers

ICC’s Cricket Committee chaired by the universally beloved and totally unbiased Sunil “Sunny” Gavaskar has made the following recommendations:

Here is my analysis…

  1. Good for fielding team.
  2. Le lagg gaye. Imagine Pak captain opting for the third power play from overs 45-50 with Afridi and Rajjak bhai on the crease. Fielding team ki tau vatt lagg gayee.
  3. “You have 2 mins to make it to the crease, run dude run… give your cigarette to me!!” hahaha
  4. Bye bye reverse swing :wave:
  5. Hahaha… what the heck is “free hit”??
    *]Shukar hai… the midget cricket grounds have ruined half the fun in cricket statistics.

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By the way.. this is on ball tempering

Any action/s likely to alter the condition of the ball which are not specifically permitted under Law 42.3 (a) may be regarded as ‘unfair’. The following actions shall not be permitted (This list of actions is not exhaustive but included for illustrative purposes):

Deliberately throwing the ball into the ground for purposes of roughing it up; Applying any artificial substance to the ball; and applying any non-artificial substance for any purpose other than to polish the ball Lifting or otherwise interfering with any of the seams of the ball Scratching the surface of the ball with finger or thumb nails or any implement

So if a fielder throws the ball on the ground… bang! ball tempering…

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/296527.html

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Too many rules will unnecessarily bring more complications to the game. Too much tailoring of the game for TV differentiates it significantly with the one played by ordinary masses by putting some chappals in a straight line in front of a stack of bricks.

Also, what kind of Umpire will monitor his stop watch from the time the dismissed batsman left the crease to the time of arrival of the new batsman at the crease.

And all these nitty-gritties about Power-plays - it demands too much brain time from the Captains, Umpire and the audience.

What is needed is the following :

(1) Change the format of ODIs drastically....so that
(a) the format is less biased against Bowlers.
(b) Tulleybaaj(z)s are discouraged as much as possible. (They seem to be doing the opposite with all these Power Plays - and obviously catering to the commercial aspect of the game)
(c) Chances of Tukkas should be reduced to minimal (Best of 3 Finals would be a good start)

(2) Don't encourage 20/20...infact nip it in the bud.
(3) Allow even LBW decisions to be referred to the third Umpire. I don't care if that would mean that field Umpires have their powers curtailed (It is not as if I am asking for their salary to be reduced). In my opinion, the field umpires would actually prefer referring close LBWs to the TV Umpire rather than making an ass of themselves in front of the TV audience. Its a shame to not use technology in this day and age to erase rampant erroneous decisions which sometimes impact match results.

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Re: LBW, I know its a contentous issue and people have different and reasonable opinions, but I am with you. I believe that modern day top-level cricket is so competitive and has such high-stakes, that the primary emphasis should be to get to the right decision in a reasonable amount of time. That the on-field umpires egos or authority should not be challenged is a lame argument in my mind, when it comes to letting go of bad decisions. Any thing that can help get the right decision should be encouraged. Where technology can help, its help must be taken. Hawk-eye, while it may not be perfect, in most cases provides a damn good evidence of LBW or no LBW.

Re: 20/20 and tullaybaaz and other points, I am not too convinced. I think 20/20, (like ODIs were back in 70’s) a new format. Its interesting cricket. It requires a different mind-set compared to test cricket. And no one should doubt its marketing potential (game over in 3 hours) which is a sponsors dream. I say we give it a chance. If 20/20 takes hold, it can actually squeeze out ODIs and we will just be left with tests and 20/20.

I agree with S Rajesh’s article Click Here] that lays down good arguments that cricket needs to put the balance back in the battle of bat and bowl. Right now most of the new rules are biased and heavily favor batsmen.

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Re:LBW : You rarely see a game played these days that doesn't have at least a couple of erroneous or doubtful LBW decisions.
People who say : "Oh...but these things usually even out in the end"....are wrongly giving it a positive spin. A wrong decision against either team will almost never have an equal impact on the match result (and that is even assuming that both teams get wrong decisions against them - which is often not the case).

My stand against ODIs (current format) and Twenty20 is that it is free-for-all cricket...much like an average Hindi movie that appeals to the masses but makes no sense.
If they are allowed to continue in this way...as I have said multiple times here - "It would take a huge difference between the quality of the two teams playing a game for the superior team to be reasonably assured of a win". In other words...these formats encourage tukkas..and even minnows start to fancy their chances for good reason.

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^ The world loves for an underdog to win. Whats the problem! :D

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^ True. Then why have all this analysis before a game on all kinds of media (TV, Newspaper, Cricinfo, Gupshup and such)...when we know that the game will probably not follow a "logical script".

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The Hawk Eye is not perfected yet. The subsequent path of the ball after hitting the person is subject to errors. A batsman should be allowed to appeal a LBW decision ONLY if he believes the ball hit the bat first. The decision should be referred to the TV umpire. The TV umpire would only rule whether the initial contact was with the bat or not. If yes, batsman is given NOT OUT. If there is no bat involved then the batsman is penalized 50% of his match fee and also given OUT.

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One other point about LBWs :

In the HAWKEYE shown on TV to check LBW decisions - they first show a shaded strip between the wickets at both ends and then they go on to show if the ball pitched outside the leg stump before hitting the batsman's pads (in which case the batsman would be NOT OUT).

Now this strip is obviosuly not drawn on the ground. What is so conveniently shown on TV, is at best imaginary lines in the mind of the field Umpire. For marginal cases - there is no way for a field Umpire with his naked eyes to say with even 90% conviction that the ball pitched outside or inside the leg stump.

Yet, when you see this on TV and when the Haweye confirms that the Umpire has given the wrong decision, we go after the Umpire.

Why can't we just agree that this is a clear problem and it has absolutely no relevance to the competence of the Umpire. I agree with Bucknor when he says that what TV replays do is only make a fool of Umpires in such situations...but the real point is....they don't have to be made fools...the technology is there to be used.

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(1) To me the HAWKEYE is still better than the NAKEDEYE
(2) I like your bat-before-pad suggestion. That is another thing very easy for the field umpire to miss.

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I agree that Hawk should not be used at this time where we have to depend on it to extrapolate the trajectory of the ball.

However, it can be, and should be used to decide whether the ball PITCHED in fron of the stumps or not.

An LBW decision has the following factors that can influence the validity of dismissal:

(1) Where the ball pitched
(2) Whether it hit the bat/pad first
(3) How far out the batsman was
(4) whether he intended to play the ball
(5) the trajectory of the ball had it not hit the pads

While each one of these can introduce some error in the judgement, (1) and (2) can definitely be corrected/verified with the help of hawkeye.

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^ all except #3 are the requirements for a positive LBW decision.

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If we implement Hawk Eye in it's current shape the number of LBW decisions will sky rocket. Imagine the incidents where the ball barely kisses the outer edge of the leg stump bail. Would it still be given out? believe me, the hawk eye is not even 50% accurate for borderline calls.

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Agree - does not make any sense to not give the umpires the benefit of all the technology that everyone else has access to. Seems ass backwards that the only two people without access to tools that could facilitate correct decision-making are the ones in charge of making decisions !

Specifically on LBWs, the arguments typically trotted out against using technology center around the unreliability of the technology. But surely, even with all its limitations, it has got to be better than having to make a split second decision based on the naked eye ? Of the many things that go into an LBW decision (where the ball pitched, whether it nicked the bat, whether it would go on to hit the stumps, etc), except for the trajectory question, the technology is pretty reliable on the rest. And even on the trajectory - you're essentially comparing the reliability of the technology in predicting the path of the ball versus that of the umpire predicting it in a split second based on a fleeting memory of what he saw with his naked eye.

If the ICC still wants to "keep the control with the on-field umpires" (another favorite cliche), at least make the information available to the on-field umpires to look at. They can still make the decision (i.e. can choose to overrule the TV info), but at least they have access to all the camera shots.

The ICC should focus on getting some of these basic issues in order before they gallivant around trying to artifically inject more excitement (read confusion) with all these new unt-shunt rules. "Free hits"...what next ? Penalty corners and right hooks ?

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Still batsman-friendly, same taste but wrapped in a different and more appealing wrapper. We are getting there. For all things even, how about introducing an extra fielder if the power-plays are taken within overs 41-50? An extra fielder, making it four in total instead of the recommended limit of three? It is a good start, and it would be refreshing to see captains utilizing such kind of a move in conditions where it favors the fielding side rather than witnessing Australia as perhaps the only country doing it from time to time. If a second or even third power-play is taken within overs 41-50, push back one more fielder outside the circle, for the count of four. The counter-argument in this case might come from; what if the advantage heavily favors the fielding side? That is well and good, it would encourage the fitness level of genuine fast bowlers around the world and they would be more involved in tournaments rather than preserving their energy for the major ones such as ICCCT or the World Cup (exceptions are accepted). It would reduce those ridiculous batting-friendly 300+ pitches with absolutely no moisturizer (I assure you, it is not a typo). For Pete's sake, let's have some even contests and encourage bowlers to bowl at lively pitches in sub-continent. Wherever the soil comes from, bring it in and put an end to these placid wickets.

It is not going to bode down very well. It is a move created to support batting sides and this idea of creating more commercialization. From where I stand, this is not going down very well in favor of the game itself. This should be discarded from the recommendations list.

Counter-argument for above: Batting sides should only be able to take up this decision if they have been put into bat first on a green surface. Then and only then, if both sides agree that it is indeed a wicket prepared especially for the bowlers, the batting side gets a say on when the final power-play will be delivered to them. However, under any circumstances, if the final power-play is introduced within overs 41-50, an extra fielder, a fourth fielder, should be a part of the trio outside the circle. The batting side can get to pick and choose and so does a fielding side. At least have some manner of an even-contest.

Specify which umpire(s), if and when the rule is implemented. On-field umpires, the third umpire or the match referee? It would be appropriate if other bodies other than the on-field umpires are responsible for these decisions, someone sitting upstairs with a full view would be far more organized and able to keep a strict log of how long of a time it takes for batsmen to walk out. It would be a tough task for the on-field umpires to follow in on every such move.

  • Anything related to items which transfers the weight from the umpire's shoulders to that of technology, especially referring the LBW decisions, I am in agreeance with.

Major point I would like to emphasize is the following (from the article):

"Clause 42.1 of the Standard Playing Conditions is amended to clarify that when an incident of ball tampering is reported to the ICC match referee, action shall be taken under the ICC Code of Conduct as appropriate against the person/s responsible for the conduct."

Added recommendation: Let there be video evidence of the "alleged" ball tampering first before any action is taken out. If there is no taped incident of any kind, action should be taken against the umpire who have reported the incident and he should be held responsible for the wrong conduct of his assessment of the fielding team.

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Hopefully the ICC will not go the level of introducing power-plays in Twenty/20's. I can't imagine the reason why. Shorter grounds, lighter bats, millions of currency at stake, all calls for heading towards power-plays in the shortest versions. What would really be a concern if ICC implemented this three power-play rule in Twenty/20's. Why not just have those bowling machines to throw a ball from? Make it more money-centric.

Might have gone unnoticed, but a very valid point, in all things even. Yes, a best of three finals would seal the deal on who the superior team is (on that given day for two/three consecutive days in a row).

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Yes, It WOULD and SHOULD be GIVEN OUT as PER LBW LAWS (other requirements being satisfied). Unless of course there is an unwritten rule somewhere which says that ball must hit the center part of the stumps.

Think about RUN OUTS - Just going by how many times the field Umpire calls for the help of the TV Umpire to adjudicate RUN OUTS these days, one can imagine how many RUN OUTS would have been wrongfully given (or not given) before the advent of the TV Umpire. Marginal cases which would have gone in favor of the bastman earlier are correctly ruled now. Same should be the case with LBWs.

See, here's the thing : the way LBWs work currently is what my folks say bhagwaan bharose . I will go out on a limb and say that more than 50% LBW cases today are such that one Umpire will give it OUT while another Umpire in his place may disagree. Umpire's instincts, mood, gut-feeling...everything comes into play.

Status Quo is not the solution. Either implement the rule in toto or get rid of it.

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Giant and Dhobi_bhai make good points.

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Extremely stupid suggestions, specially the ball change after 35 overs. Such decisions are exactly why bowling attacks all over the world are getting less and less potent with additional focus on savings runs than taking wickets.

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I havent seen a match where a white ball lasts the full 50 overs.