ok,lets see what pakistan has 20 odd f-16As,f-7 chinese clone of mig-21,mirage-3 and mirage-5 which belong to seventies! now look what india has 50 odd mirage-2000,mig-29,around 30 su-30MKs and 8 su-30MKI(best su-30 comparable to underdevelopment su-37),jaguars,mig-21s,mig-23s,mig-27 and also naval harriers and most of these fighters r equipped with HMS and BVR(pakistan doesnt have both of these),so please tell me what makes u think that PAF is superior to IAF!
My question is, does the crash rate of IAF exceeds the replacment rate or is it the other way round
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221 in last 10 years is not bad not bad.
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Originally posted by gali ka goonda:
superior PAF! HA HA HA! can u back this claim of urs!
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Isnt history enough?
On Mig 25:
The sole purpose of its design was to Intercept SR-71s. To my knowledge it can carry only 3 types of AA missiles. Russians have long given up on the project (after retirement of SR-71s) and their Mig 25s are rotting away OR are being sold to contries like Algeria, Iraq, India and Azerbaijan.
India has 4 D types - which are recon and not interceptors - and 1 C type which is a trainer (correct me if I am wrong). As long as they cant carry any air to groung weapons, I think Pakistan should be fine. Mind you, even if it could carry bombs...they wouldnt be any good from 50K ft+ height (thats as high as PAF can go).
hey abdal,yes replenishment rate is quite good dont worry about that,if that wasnt the case then india would have already lost the 2:1 advantage !
who-me,history says diff story,after 1965 pakistan never had air superiority and that was 40 yrs back!
now about mig-25,if u see my previous replys who will find that i have already stated that mig-25 is not for combat but for reconnaisans,i personally like it coz of its high speed and ability to fly at high altitudes
IAF is definitely superior to PAF in all respects! Its true that some IAF planes are falling apart .. LOL .. I guess India is just letting the old stuff die on its own!
Oh well, we’ll see what happens. I am pretty sure there will be no war. Its just for time-being. So guys relax and have fun watching FIFA world cup
Yes we can.
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**Gen. Chuck Horner of the United States Air Force (USAF) and Commander of Allied Forces in the 1991 Gulf War in his biography by Tom Clancy, Every Man A Tiger:
“Pakistan has one of the best, most combat ready air forces in the world. They have to, their neighbour to the east is huge, and the two nations have a long history of hostilities. For Indian war planners, the Pakistan Air Force is their worst fear. Pakistani pilots are respected throughout the world, especially the Islamic world, because they know how to fly and fight”.**
OK DO U EVEN KNOW WHEN WAS THAT BIOGRAPHY WRITTEN!BY THE WAY HE ONLY SAYS THAT THEY CAN CREATE PROBLEMS FOR IAF BUT TO BEAT MIGHTY INDIAN AIR FORCE IS NOT POSSIBLE! times have changed my dear,having good pilots doent mean PAF is better, equipments,armoury,technologyand quality of aircrafts make heck of a difference! ASK PAF DO THEY HAVE BVR!
Iraq had MiG-25's, by at least, 1991. Gali, thanks for the pics of the Tu-22.
you are living in a dream world Gali!
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Truth hurts you doesn’t it?!!
This book was written less than ten years ago! Considering India is desperate to buy 3 decade old Harriers that the UK is trying to get rid of, I highly doubt India has a ‘techonological advantage’!
Either way, whats the use of all the technology in the world, when your pilots keep crashing at the highest rate in the whole world!!!
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…so much for the ‘mighty’ IAF!!!
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Achi tasveerain thien; ‘jahazoun’ ke ‘jahazoun’ ki.
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PS:
Please don’t look up the meaning of “JAHAZ” in any lughat, you won’t find it.
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Originally posted by gali ka goonda:
OK DO U EVEN KNOW WHEN WAS THAT BIOGRAPHY WRITTEN!BY THE WAY HE ONLY SAYS THAT THEY CAN CREATE PROBLEMS FOR IAF BUT TO BEAT MIGHTY INDIAN AIR FORCE IS NOT POSSIBLE! times have changed my dear,having good pilots doent mean PAF is better, equipments,armoury,technologyand quality of aircrafts make heck of a difference! ASK PAF DO THEY HAVE BVR!
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True PAF lacks BVR attack capabilities.
you wish!
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You Hindoos either live in a dream world, or are drunk on that cow piss!
not sure about the F-7’s Pak got a few months ago, but the F-16’s and Mirages all have BVR.
And like I said, with India begging the UK to sell it three decades old, redundant British jets, you can hardly talk about a technological advantage! HA!HA!HA!
real deal,after reading ur replies any sane person can say that u have lost the arguement,therefore u have resorted to personal abuses,and that is all u can do!
HEHEHE! ROTFL! Talk about clutching at straws!
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You said:
*HE ONLY SAYS THAT THEY CAN CREATE PROBLEMS FOR IAF BUT TO BEAT MIGHTY INDIAN AIR FORCE IS NOT POSSIBLE! *
in response to ** THIS**
For Indian war planners, the Pakistan Air Force is their worst fear.
HEHEHEHE!! IAF can paint up some planes for pics, but don’t blame me when they crash those planes!!
Pics are one thing, combat is
another thing! HEHEHEHE!!
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Mighty IAF..what a joke!
so you are saying that pak didnt beg US to get their F-16s??
I didnt know about the BVR. Its good but you can never compare the two air forces and their capabilities. Both have their adv and disadvantages.
and also for your info .. their are Muslims in the IAF too!
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** so you are saying that pak didnt beg US to get their F-16s??
and also for your info .. their are Muslims in the IAF too!**
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You mean like India is begging UK to sell it 3 decade old planes and aircraft carrier?
As for Muslims in IAF, as they will be attacking Pakistan of their own free will, the fact that they are Muslim is not my concern. They are enemies of Pak, trying to destroy Pak, that is all that matters.
AATIF as far as i am concerned i dont care if there are muslims in IAF. when it comes to indians it doesnt matter whether they r muslims or hindus or christians or whatever. indians r indians.
and when it comes to pakistanis it doesnt matter whether muslims, christians or hindus.
the only thing i know and some people might find it offending but i dont care at all, indians are "aaasteeen kay saaaaap"
HACKER OF HEART ..I cmpletely agree..well said..SAMP k BACHAI SAMPOLAI HI HOTAI HAIN…