"I want to eliminate all of them" - President Musharraf

Smack em.


Musharraf: Al Qaeda is taunting me

Sunday, March 28, 2004 Posted: 8:45 PM EST (0145 GMT)

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) – Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has accused Osama bin Laden’s top deputy of taunting him and vowed to press on with an offensive against al Qaeda, saying, “I want to eliminate all of them.”

Musharraf made his comment just days after Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden’s second-in-command, urged Pakistani tribes to resist government troops and to overthrow Musharraf.

“Now that he is taunting me, well, all that I would like to say, I want to eliminate all of them,” Musharraf told ABC’s This Week.

Musharraf survived two assassination attempts in December last year, both of which he blamed on al Qaeda.

Asked if he was confident he would get Zawahiri and bin Laden before they get him, Musharraf said, “I can’t be 100 percent sure. I mean, I’m quite loose at my security, but I believe in destiny. … I’m very sure that we’ll eliminate this al Qaeda from our region.”

Earlier, government sources said a Pakistan tribal group released 11 Pakistani paramilitary troops in exchange for government forces pulling out of the Wana region, where fighting between government forces and suspected al Qaeda fighters has raged for weeks.

Two other government officials are expected to be released on Monday.

Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan, a Pakistani army spokesman, said the cordon in the area was lifted only after the military had “largely achieved” its objectives.

“We have successfully busted and dismantled a stronghold and a den of the foreign elements as well as the local miscreants,” he said.

“The lifting of this siege does not mean that we are going to end our efforts on war on terror.”

He added: “The operations will continue as and when when we have confirmed intelligence about the miscreants.”

Sultan said Pakistani forces captured more than 160 suspected terrorists and killed at least 60 more. The suspects were now being interrogated, and authorities were working to determine which of them were foreign fighters.

“They will be appropriately dealt with,” he said.

He noted that some terrorist suspects dispersed into small groups during the fighting and may have slipped away during the fighting.

“These people are now on the run, and they will be chased wherever they are,” Sultan said.

U.S. officials have long said they believe bin Laden and Zawahiri are hiding in the remote mountain region along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

In an audiotape released last week, Zawahiri urged Pakistanis to overthrow Musharraf.

“Every Muslim in Pakistan must do his or her best in getting rid of this government, which cooperates with the enemies,” he said in the tape first aired by the Arab news network Al-Jazeera.

Sources in Pakistan last week said they believed Zawahiri was in the area where the fighting was most intense, although they have since backed away from those claims.

U.S. officials have said they had no information that Zawahiri was present last week.

In the interview with ABC, Musharraf said the government knows areas of south Waziristan where they suspect al Qaeda fighters are hiding.

“We will operate against them,” he said. “We will defeat them. I know that the army is wholly with me.”

This is a fray between two terrorists. Bin Laden and his stalwart Al-Zwahiri are erstwhile american allies, while Mushy today's stooge is. The best-case scenario for me would be if both of them bring it off to eliminate each other.

Go go go Mushy! :jhanda: grab these terrorists…with impunity. just think..you have a choice…with us or against us. Atta boy!!

I cerrtainly hope he does. After that he should go after in the psychos in india.

Yay Mushy!!! :slight_smile: :jhanda:

Hundreds of terrorists and their supporters killed or arrested in Wana, and hundreds others chased out. Hail Musharraf! :k:

zara sharm karo!
muslims killling thier own brethren for whose cause?
its a common knowledge most of the people who died in wana were local pathans!
killing our own brethren for a country called usa which supports israels murder of shaikh yassin?

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm

High-value fiction

By Ayaz Amir

It was supposed to be Ayman Al-Zawahiri, no less, Osama bin Laden’s deputy, finally trapped by the trusted Pakistan army in the wilds of South Waziristan. President Musharraf himself triggered this feverish line of speculation when he told CNN’s Aaron Brown (one of the best anchors in the business) that the fierce resistance being put up by suspected Al Qaeda fighters suggested they were protecting a “high-value target”.

The hype, alas, did not last. It gave way to embarrassment when the ‘militants’, far from surrendering, inflicted heavy casualties on first the Frontier Constabulary and then the regular army.

To add insult to injury, instead of yielding any “high-value target” the so-called militants captured over a dozen militiamen or soldiers whose whereabouts are still unknown.

Don’t blame the army for being coy on the subject of casualties. Press reports put the number of militia and army dead at 60, the injured at 45, and “missing” at 24. The ‘militant’ dead: 11. ‘Collateral damage’: over two dozen civilians, including women and children, caught in the crossfire.

This is a first-rate fiasco whichever way you look at it. If this were Iraq and if even half as many Americans had died, the White House would be shaken and George Bush would be scurrying for cover.

This being Pakistan where life is relatively cheap, you just look the other way. And you talk tough. The Rommel in overall command of this operation, the Peshawar Corps Commander, Lt Gen Safdar Hussain, vowed to flush out and eliminate the ‘militants’ as the Wana action got underway.

He continues to sound tough even with this botched operation behind him. Incidentally, Lt Gen Safdar’s name was first on the list of military personnel who received awards on March 23, Republic Day.

The army says it discovered a long tunnel beneath one of the mud fortresses where the ‘militants’ were holed up, the suggestion being that that’s how they got away. The wheel thus comes full circle, high-value target turning to high-value fiction.

Aaron Brown had pressed the military spokesman, Major General Shaukat Sultan, on this point. Was there any way the ‘militants’ could get away? No they couldn’t, the army had it all worked out. Well, well, he couldn’t have known about the tunnel, could he?

If the Peshawar Corps HQs had read its tribal history it would have preferred prudence to misplaced bragging. The British learnt to their cost not to mess around with the frontier tribes. In return for nominal allegiance, they allowed them full internal autonomy. This system served the British well for a hundred years. It has served us well since 1947.

There have been no Pakistanis more loyal to Pakistan than the tribal people. Remember they helped get us the bit of Kashmir we have. They went in first, the army followed later.

Now under American pressure these time-tested arrangements are coming under strain. The Americans couldn’t care less what happens to us or to the fabric of our society. They want quick trophies to nail to the wall, so that they can declare some sort of victory in their war against anything that smells or looks like Al Qaeda.

The Americans couldn’t have cared less about Afghanistan in the 1980s. All they wanted was to give the Russians a bloody nose and avenge the memory of Vietnam. That accomplished they just walked away, leaving the Afghans to their misery.

In pursuit of the Viet Cong the Americans entered Kampuchea (then Cambodia) in 1968, setting off a chain reaction leading to the destruction of that once peaceful and easygoing country. Kampuchea has yet to recover from those wounds.

What do the Americans care what happens to Pakistan as long as their purpose is served in the tribal areas? They are paying us for services rendered: about $600 million a year, half in so-called economic aid, half in military aid, most of the military aid being used to beef up the Pakistan army for duty along the Pak-Afghan border.

Smart, isn’t it, the Americans giving us just enough to better serve their interests? Like giving a sentry a better rifle to perform better sentry duty. And we call this aid.

But since they are paying us something, they think they are within their rights to order us about. Reinforcing this monumental self-belief is the spectacle of the Pakistani leadership taking obvious pleasure in being ordered about.

Should we fight the Americans? Who’s saying that? Should we confront them? Don’t be silly. But how does it follow from this that Pakistan should be getting up every morning and proving to the rest of the world that it stands in the front rank of all banana republics?

We did this in the 1950s when we became part of America’s global system of alliances against communism. We did this in the sixties when we played the crucial role in America’s opening to China.

We did this in the eighties when casting prudence aside we became the CIA’s cat’s paw in Afghanistan. We did this after September 11 when we became the launching pad for America’s war on Afghanistan. Masochism aside, why do we do this?

Now Colin Powell tells us Pakistan should soon be getting ‘non-Nato ally’ status. For this kindness many thanks. Don’t we know the list of America’s non-Nato allies? Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the Philippines, etc, etc? Do we want to be part of this distinguished company?

It can be argued that after September 11 the Americans, out for revenge and blood, left us with little choice. In his testimony before the presidential commission on terrorism, Colin Powell has said as much. The Pakistanis, he said, were given a clear choice and 48 hours to make up their minds. Pervez Musharraf made his “historic and strategic” decision, Powell’s words, on September 14.

Fine. All this is history, water under the bridge. We’ve done the Americans enough service in Afghanistan. There’s no pistol pointing at our head now. We can afford to draw breath, weigh our options, do the sensible thing.

We don’t have to be stampeded into stupid actions enraging the Pakistani people and imperilling our future. At least for now, we can afford to speak to the Americans on equal terms.

It’s the Bush White House in election trouble, not the Musharraf presidency (not least because presidencies here have other ways of going around elections). If anything, between now and the US presidential election, Pakistan’s importance to the Bush White House is greater than the other way round.

And who are these ‘militants’ of Wana, in any case? The foreigners amongst them, Chechens, Uzbeks, Arabs, are the leftovers of the Afghan jihad. They and the CIA fought on the same side then, against the Soviets. They became an embarrassment only later.

But with nowhere to go many of them settled in the tribal areas, marrying locally and intermingling with the tribes. Does that make them Al Qaeda fighters, loyalists to Osama bin Laden, protectors of “high-value targets”?

Perhaps, yes. But if that’s the case, what’s the Pakistan army been doing these past two years since September 11? Shouldn’t it have gone after these elements much before and without American prodding?

But let’s not be fooled. The Wana operation reeks of other things: American pressure, American indifference to our plight and supreme Pakistani incompetence.

And consider what we are reaping in the aftermath: bomb attacks and ambushes beyond Wana. Even rockets fired at Peshawar itself. Which doesn’t mean the tribal areas are rising in revolt. But it does mean new dangers. Don’t we have enough of them already?

Tailpiece: Haji Abdul Haque of Adil Manzil, Tauheed Commercial Area, DHA, Karachi, asks: "Whenever our soldiers die in action we call them ‘shaheed’. In the ongoing Wana operation being carried out at the behest of the United States, Pathan Frontier Constabulary soldiers are pitted in ferocious battles against fellow Pathans.

Whatever the case, all combatants are Muslims. Has our high command decided which of the killed combatants will be called ‘shaheed’? The Muslim frontier constabulary pathan soldiers fighting for the US or the Muslim pathans fighting against the US? Will our great COAS Gen Musharraf kindly explain?"

Considering Ayaz Amir was thrown out of the foriegn service for numerous illegal activities. Dismissed by the Bhutto govt under different circumstances and has an avid hatred for the military, i would just consider him a typical pakistan author who doesnt know jack **** and rather publish his work out of vengance.

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*Originally posted by kabir: *

zara sharm karo!
muslims killling thier own brethren for whose cause?

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Al Qaida and the the foreign terrorists hiding in Wana not Muslims, and I have no shame in saying that. They have terrorised and killed Muslims in Afghanistan, and most probably in FATA as well - these terrorists are the real kaffirs.

The real Afghan jihadis have either joined the Afghan government, and their foreign allies have gone back to their own countries. These foreigners are merely cowards, too scared to face the wrath in their own countries, and using our national territory to wage their political/terrorist war against others. They should rightly be eliminated!

What happened was bad, That part of Pakistan is our history but what we must remeber is that Pakistan comes first!