I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND!!

Ok Ok Ok i wrote this post ‘only muslims end up in heaven’ and someone wrote that chistians also do shirkh. how r they doing sherikh i mean they belive in the same god as we do. ok so for example i understand that they do shirkh and end up in hell (alllah na karay) that means muslims r the onlyones that will end up not in hell or al araf?? Then y is al-araf made. by the way how many gods r there in buddism??? Please help me maina apna gharwalo ka saar khaliya yeh sawaal puch kay laken mughay jawab nahi mila is liya may aap logo say puchra hi hon.


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Girl Thing: Allah has told us in Quran that various things we can do can send us to the hellfire.

Ultimately it is up to Allah who will go to the hellfire and who won't. That is one of Allah's attributes, The Merciful.

But on the other hand, Allah has also given us a brian (dimag) to use. If Allah tells us that associating partners with him will lead us to the hellfire, then we can automatically assume that people that do that will be sent to the hellfire. Similarly, Allahs says committing Adultery will lead to the hellfire as well..

However, I don't believe you can go up to someone and tell them that they are going to the hellfire because no-one but Allah has the right to say that. That same person that is commiting Shirk may have done something else to please Allah in which case he/she may be granted Paradise.

cooldude, agur tum nay bada interest say para kay maina kha 'hellfire' then tum ko yeh bhe bhooth interest say parnachaitha kay maina likha 'allah na karay' i didn't say a decision i said what someone told me


I am as sweet as sugar
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But 1 more thing
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Originally posted by Girl Thing:
..that means muslims r the onlyones that will end up not in hell or al araf??.
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I answered that question!

Girl thing,
Your saying(ok rather asking) in the other thread that only muslims will go to heaven is true in a way.As people from other religions will as a rule not go to heaven as they are misguided.However i pointed out that there can be exceptions as ALLAH is most merciful and will decide on an individual basis.So strictly speaking people other than muslims can go to heaven and some will but huge majority of them will not owing to their beliefs.Heaven is not exclusive to followers of just one shariah but people who do shirk will definitely NOT go to heaven.Christian beliefs have been condemned in the Quran itself(also jews).Shirk as we understand it is a part of chrsitian religion,part of thier beliefs.People of that religion as a rule cannot thus go to heaven.But for some exceptions owing solely to ALLAH's mercy.Remember I am talking about a luxury here which may not necessarily be given to these people.('these people' does not refer to christians only but to all non-muslims).
The only sure way to go to heaven is following the religion brought by prophet Mohammad(SAW).Hope this clears things up.If not please feel free to ask what isn't clear.

[This message has been edited by Ahmed (edited November 22, 2000).]

Ahmed bhai how do christians do shirkh???


I am as sweet as sugar
I am as hot as spice
But 1 more thing
I am also very nice!!


They believe that jesus(A.S.) was the son of God.They call Mary(hazrat maryam)mother of God.They pray to Jesus and Mary.This is how they do shirk.

Shirk doesn’t just mean praying to someone other than Allah. It is to associate anyone with the properties of Allah. It is also to believe that Allah has sons or fathers…

Sura-e-Ikhlaas says that Allah does not have a father or a son.

Christians, on the other hand, believe in three things… Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Basically, it means that Christ is the son of God…and the holy Ghost also shares in the properties of God. Christians claim God is the father of Christ bcz Christ was born to a virgin (Mary) and the only one who could have made Mary conceive (Immaculate Conception) was God, Himself. This and lots of other stuff…

Bcz these beliefs were never taught by Christ and were innovated into Christianity by their priests, after Christ, therefore, Allah, says in the Quran that Christians are unjust (meaning, they added unlawful things into the teachings of God and Christ).

For the reasons mentioned above, it is clear that contrary to the original teachings of Christ… the Christians do shirk, and associate Christ with the properties of God, believe Christ to be the son of God, and have deviated from the monotheist teachings of Christ.

Is it clear…? Or have I lost you completly?

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