I proud to be a Muslim

[ajazali]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

Do you think world had ever acknowledged positive side of Islam and Muslims? **World is expert in stereotyping Muslims based on a minority (likes of Taliban, etc) and this is not a recent phenomenon. **The liberal west which has glamorized Knights from Crusade era still fighting their wars by naming them Crusades, but they have made Muslims to be apologetic to the extent that we are ashamed to own people like Ayyubi.

if you look at the pattern of information on Wikipedia, you can observe there that muslims’ point of view is never conveyed properly or logically, be it an issue regarding Muslim & Hindu, Muslim & Chritianity, or Muslim vs ‘anything’.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@ajazali

if you look at the pattern of information on Wikipedia, you can observe there that muslims’ point of view in never conveyed properly or logically, be it an issue regarding Muslim & Hindu, Muslim & Chritianity, or Muslim vs ‘anything’.

I think Muslims are themselves responsible for all this. They actually don’t want to portray them and their religion positively for some unknown complexes. Sources like Wikipedia are open for anyone. but wo jo kehte hain ‘jab dil hi na chahta ho to dua main asar kaisa’, same thing applies here.

[ajazali]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

I think Muslims are themselves responsible for all this. They actually don’t want to portray them and their religion positively for some unknown complexes. Sources like Wikipedia are open for anyone. but wo jo kehte hain ‘jab dil hi na chahta ho to dua main asar kaisa’, same thing applies here.

yes, but i think it takes lobbyist’s work to portray a positive image of you, today.
however i agree that Muslims are themselves responsible for all this.

[Reha]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Geezer

Terrorism may be a results of actions of small groups but what about all those burning protests that kill hundreds in the name of blasphemy? What about honor killings that Muslims are commonly known for? Even children are not safe from mullah brigade in countries like Pakistan. What about the hate spewing Muslim clerics that are so common in Muslim world and widely followed by people? In countries like UK, Muslims are leading in crime and Government benefits fraud. In my conversations with westerners I have found that Muslims are seen as corrupt people who don’t believe in humanity and man made laws, all they care about is God’s law and that they think is all about hatred for people and killing.

I never identify myself as a Muslim unless it is imperative to do so, and when I do it I find nothing to be proud of.

I don’t think that’s fair. Muslims do a world of good out there too but since poop is what sells papers and interests the world, its all you see.

There ARE good people - innately good Muslims who truly believe in doing well for others and humanity - I say this because I KNOW them personally. And I think its horrible that those efforts are made nil because of someone’s negative actions.

I admit, we’re not really all that popular right now. But I don’t think its cause to be ashamed of being a Muslim. I’d feel sorry for someone who felt that way because they seem to have missed the great things about their religion.

There is good and bad everywhere - don’t be fooled by media - think for yourself.

[Jolie]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

Yes I am proud to be Muslim and proud of Islam but am I proud of other Muslims, well not always. lol

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Jolie

Yes I am proud to be Muslim and proud of Islam but am I proud of other Muslims, well not always. lol

Why don’t you share reason for your pride and positivity, may be it inspire others to think on same lines.

[Geezer]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

The basic problem is we don’t want to see on positive sides of our religion and our forefathers.

I was just searching for positivity. I respect your thoughts and point of view, but lets keep it for some other time.

Only my last sentence was my own view.

While you are discussing the positives, don’t forget to give examples where that happens in current times.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Geezer

Only my last sentence was my own view.

While you are discussing the positives, don’t forget to give examples where that happens in current times.

Positivity can be be found inside a person when you talk about religion, but its not that easy as falling to the media talk portraying us in negative light all the time.

[Geezer]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

Positivity can be be found inside a person when you talk about religion, but its not that easy as falling to the media talk portraying us in negative light all the time.

One has to live in fantasy to be positive about these things and i don’t like living in fantasies, i live in reality.

[Ali_Syed]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

Do you think world had ever acknowledged positive side of Islam and Muslims? World is expert in stereotyping Muslims based on a minority (likes of Taliban, etc) and this is not a recent phenomenon. The liberal west which has glamorized Knights from Crusade era still fighting their wars by naming them Crusades, but they have made Muslims to be apologetic to the extent that we are ashamed to own people like Ayyubi.

The West will not acknowledge the positive aspect of Islam, but that does not mean that we should stop propagating it ourselves.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Ali_Syed

The West will not acknowledge the positive aspect of Islam, but that does not mean that we should stop propagating it ourselves.

How we propagate an ideology, we stopped believing in?

[Ali_Syed]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

How we propagate an ideology, we stopped believing in?

People do believe in it, a big proportion. If all of us think that we are ambassadors of the religion and deal with others according to its essence, I think it will make a difference. Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the world, and we the followers have also played a role in its image’s distortion.

[Southie]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

Just a general comment. Is proud the correct term especially when one discusses Religion? But this may just be semantics.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Southie

Just a general comment. Is proud the correct term especially when one discusses Religion? But this may just be semantics.

proud is not the negative term. It also means:

• feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable to oneself.
• having or showing self-respect or self-esteem.

proud is not arrogance. self esteem and self respect are not negative traits.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Ali_Syed

People do believe in it, a big proportion. If all of us think that we are ambassadors of the religion and deal with others according to its essence, I think it will make a difference. Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the world, and we the followers have also played a role in its image’s distortion.

I agree, but will falling for media propaganda and trying to hide or disown our identity as a Muslim will solve the problem? de-chanelised people with lower morals will haunt everyone.

[muqawwee123]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@Geezer

One has to live in fantasy to be positive about these things and i don’t like living in fantasies, i live in reality.

reality is as vague term as fantasy in this ever changing world. No one knew that Mujahideen of 1980s decade will be termed as terrorists in 21st century

[Southie]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

proud is not the negative term. It also means:

• feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable to oneself.
• having or showing self-respect or self-esteem.

proud is not arrogance. self esteem and self respect are not negative traits.

Salam

OK. That clears things up. I agree.

On another note, the credibility/acceptance/popularity of any Religion / movement is a big function of how it treats dissenting opinion. To that extent, all Religions and their followers can do a better job. But I don’t want to explore this further. Maybe topic for another thread.

[Geezer]

Re: I proud to be a Muslim

@muqawwee123

reality is as vague term as fantasy in this ever changing world. No one knew that Mujahideen of 1980s decade will be termed as terrorists in 21st century

Everything is vague for those who live in fantasies.

Talking about 80s, no one could’ve imagined in 80s that the ideology of those al-cia funded terrorists will be ruling Pakistan in the 21st century