…that I am for regime change in the United States of America. The US govt is a threat todays society and the moral fabric which has been developed ever since the second world war. The world was building to a stage where moral values were the guiding light in the policy towards nations, not unilateral interests and views and attitudes attributed to dictators looking for personal glory and power.
The US govt so far has violated rules and norms, it has attacked a soverign nation, just like Hitler and Stalin have done in the past.
They have thrown 3 treaties which the world has agreed to into eternal limbo, since they are not in the mood to sign them.
They have refused to sign international agreements, like the ILO convention on Child labor and rights, for gods knows what reason.
They have held the UN hostage and blackmailed the UNSC to get a 1 year “get out of jail card” from the ICC and pushed back the prospects of an international legal system.
They aim to attack any nation which they deem to be a threat to the US. First it was Afghanistan, now it is Iraq, i wonder who is next.
Due to the above crimes against the nations and people of this planet who wish to see peace in the next years, i advocate regime change in the United States of America.
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*Originally posted by CM: *
....that I am for regime change in the United States of America. The US govt is a threat todays society and the moral fabric which has been developed ever since the second world war. The world was building to a stage where moral values were the guiding light in the policy towards nations, not unilateral interests and views and attitudes attributed to dictators looking for personal glory and power.
The US govt so far has violated rules and norms, it has attacked a soverign nation, just like Hitler and Stalin have done in the past.
They have thrown 3 treaties which the world has agreed to into eternal limbo, since they are not in the mood to sign them.
They have refused to sign international agreements, like the ILO convention on Child labor and rights, for gods knows what reason.
They have held the UN hostage and blackmailed the UNSC to get a 1 year "get out of jail card" from the ICC and pushed back the prospects of an international legal system.
They aim to attack any nation which they deem to be a threat to the US. First it was Afghanistan, now it is Iraq, i wonder who is next.
Due to the above crimes against the nations and people of this planet who wish to see peace in the next years, i advocate regime change in the United States of America.
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Whats the difference, be it Gore, Bush, Clinton, they would do the same thing... Btw, now you are condemning their attack on Afghanistan, why werent you doing that when our country decided to assist them? You said it was good that we help them...
It may sound like a splendid idea, but how would the world carry out this regime change? The people are backing their president with all the vigor, and this 9/11 incident has only reenforced this vigor...
Remember Jay Leno, who used to redicule the president in virtually all of his shows, after 9/11 went "we used to ridicule this guy alot, but he turned out to be a hero"... I agree, Bush is no hero, but the 9/11 events have circumstantially portrayed his image to the american ppl as a hero... And would they kick that guy out of power?
Whats the difference, be it Gore, Bush, Clinton, they would do the same thing... Btw, now you are condemning their attack on Afghanistan, why werent you doing that when our country decided to assist them?
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We assisted coz we had no other choice. You would have done the same.
We condemn the attacks coz its wrong even if many of those are launched from our home soil.
We are against the US Government coz its a crook one.
I for myself see a change not only influencing America and the targeted countries but even in other European countries. The change of nationalism and racism not only directed towards foreigners (red, blacks, jews, yellows or whatever) but directed towards the government who support Americas foreign policy "strategies".
Next is Latvia!
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*Originally posted by Ali_R: *
We assisted coz we had no other choice. You would have done the same.
We condemn the attacks coz its wrong even if many of those are launched from our home soil.
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Well, since you are speaking for CM... Why did you assist those attacks when you knew they would have such reprecussions? No other choice? I saw alot of people opposing their governments moves to help the Americans... The difference b/w them and you is that they didnt change their point of views, they still oppose our decision to help the yanks...
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We are against the US Government coz its a crook one.
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I think u already mentioned that, but my question is, how will you topple it when the country is supporting it, read my last post again...
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I for myself see a change not only influencing America and the targeted countries but even in other European countries. The change of nationalism and racism not only directed towards foreigners (red, blacks, jews, yellows or whatever) but directed towards the government who support Americas foreign policy "strategies".
Next is Latvia!
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If you are referring to internal racism in the US, I dont see that as a major problem, but racism in Europe, that is a big problem, I agree...
The danger to the world community from this American government is grave and growing.
The regime is guilty of attempting to or actually overthrowing and undermining recognised governments. It has a horrible history of striking without warning, and against international laws and United Nations resolutions. It has stockpiled biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and is continuing to build facilities used to make more of those weapons.
We cannot leave the future of peace and the security of the world in the hands of this kind of government. There must be a regime change in the United States.
Well, since you are speaking for CM... Why did you assist those attacks when you knew they would have such reprecussions? No other choice? I saw alot of people opposing their governments moves to help the Americans... The difference b/w them and you is that they didnt change their point of views, they still oppose our decision to help the yanks...
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I'm not speaking just for CM im speaking i guess for almost every Pakistani or (Muslim, Parcifist) who is fed up by the actions your country takes and implements. The out come is always worse than what is mentioned. I never changed my views. You can go and read all my messages posted in WA. You will see that I opposed TALIBAN til US conquered their land! Just to give you an example.
I think u already mentioned that, but my question is, how will you topple it when the country is supporting it, read my last post again...
First I want this answer on the pakistani government in another thread. Coz I was first to ask.
*If you are referring to internal racism in the US, I dont see that as a major problem, but racism in Europe, that is a big problem, I agree... *
Bhai, if you support Pakistans stance against the Taliban, you should have realized the reprecussions... The US was set to establish its presence in this land, and these 9/11 attacks just catalyzed the whole thing... Have u seen the movie Three Kings? The iraqi soldiers inserts a CD into a US soldiers mouth and goes, what is this war about? And he inserts oil into his mouth... I think its a little too late to complain now....
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*Originally posted by OldLahori: *
One still can spread ones opinions and vote G. Bush out in 2 years. In another month, a strong message can be sent via the congressional races. However, who has ever though of removing or changing any leader of any OIC country? 29 amendments to the constitution with a snap of a finger! We just cannot seem to get out of a self pitying playing victims to the hilt game. Not one not a single one constructive suggestion that can even remotely be implemented has surfaced from any OIC intellectual. If it has, please point it out. Talk about emasculatedly ineffectual !!!
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Finally, a sensible answer... It may also be true that G Bush may have used this hype to ensure another term for himself... What do u think lahori bhai?
Finally, a sensible answer... It may also be true that G Bush may have used this hype to ensure another term for himself... What do u think lahori bhai?
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H*** yes!! Why would he want to talk about the economy, the unemployment figure, the deficit, etc?
I guess the aim of the post just flew over your heads. The aim was very simple. Bush and the present US govt is as much a thread if not more of a threat to the world than Saddam and or the Taliban. These 2 affected only 1 or 2 countries. Max a region. Bush can and is destorying the very fabric of society and international systems created since world war 2.
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Bush can and is destorying the very fabric of society and international systems created since world war 2.
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I am not a bush supporter generally, but I could not disagree with you more. You are dead wrong, and I suspect that part of that results from giving into the mass hallucination that a majority of muslims are undergoing these days: we would rather support a tyrant and a criminal like Saddam because he is a muslim rather than US because 'it' is non-muslim.
I am not a bush supporter generally, but I could not disagree with you more. You are dead wrong, and I suspect that part of that results from giving into the mass hallucination that a majority of muslims are undergoing these days: we would rather support a tyrant and a criminal like Saddam because he is a muslim rather than US because 'it' is non-muslim.
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Not that I have question myself long enough. But what is this all. A war between Muslims and Christians. A conflict between cultures and traditions? It's not so!
Its a fight for the right, your right, my right.
It's not in sake of Saddam coz he is labeled as Muslim and I can ensure you even if Mr. Bush would be one of us, I would condemn him with hard words and the thoughts.
Unfortunately our own "brothers and sis" fail to understand the fight for justice and equality (peace) and complain about religious fanatism, extremism or simply call us the KEYBOARD JIHADI's.
Yeah benedict Lahori. Sure he destoryed international treaties by putting them in political limbo, Kyoto, ICC, ABM etc. Want more? With out these treaties the world is a worse off place dont you agree.
Mr. Fantastic, i have a life, it is showing Americans what they are blind too.
There are crores of people desiring a total change in all Islamic regimes, so that the people of world including the peace loving people of those so-called religious States can live a normal life.
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*Originally posted by anand: *
My Dear CM Malik,
Did any one ask you about your mental problems?
There are crores of people desiring a total change in all Islamic regimes, so that the people of world including the peace loving people of those so-called religious States can live a normal life.
Best rgds, and first repair your own home!
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People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. For you that means deal with the racist govt that is responsible for racist and genocidal crimes in India, against the sikhs, against the muslims and dalits and then tell us what to do. Follow your own advice. Be happy i am going soft on you.
gutentag… Btw, the US is not my country f00… Unless you have anything useful to this conversation… bye…