i dont believe.

i dont believe.

This disbelief in God most probably did not come out of the blue, but gradually increased overtime? I am guessing your level of practising your wajibat has been either minimal, or non existent for a good while.

The reason i am assuming this is because salah is called a pillar of faith for a reason. There is so much emphasis on it because It upholds your connection with God and the more you pray, the more your faith and conviction increases overtime. Let go of your prayers/ wajibats, and gradually your faith decreases, and so does your conviction. This makes it easy for the doubts to enter your mind and remain unresolved, because you are looking at it from an incorrect (faithless) context/perspective/attitude…leading you to the incorrect conclusion.

My advise would be to focus on establishing the spiritual aspect, duas, salah sawm etc, consistently along side the studying; and i believe you are likely to reach a different conclusion.

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there is nothing wrong in questioning things, but just make sure that you will not reject haq for some bias. plus have a self audit, remove the bad things like bad ikhlaq etc from ur life, and seek help from creator.search for good authentic scholar.

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Be good, do good, be a seeker of truth, and don’t worry about rituals. If you do that, you are ptobably in the top 1% in terms of being a good human being. Don’t be shackled by religious preachers. Make your own path to righteousness, otherwise known as Dharma.

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Nadz: :hug: Out of all your threads I’ve read, this is my fav. one. You, along with a few others, have written how I’ve felt for a long time. You’re definitely not alone.

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This is what Hazrat Ali (ra) said, “I recognized Him by witnessing the abrogation of intention and the failures of strengths.”

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I can’t believe that you don’t believe! :smiley:

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The last part of your sentence says you believe in him.

You just need reinforcement and sincere search for ways to reinforce.

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I agree wid u but No man ,scholar can make u religious if a person himself not willing/doing serious effort…

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Probably, because here even people with college degrees seem to suffer from a severe drop in IQ when they talk religion. Conspiracy theories, why terrorists blow up Shias and shrine, but not Tablighis in Raiwaid. Apparently Shias must be doing something wrong and Shrine are hubs of sodomy and drugs. So it’s just okay to blow them up.

And rejecting Amrika is a big part of being a Muslim or a Pakistani. You don’t understand that until you actually live here. My mom of all people was cursing the place the other day. I had to ask her not to do it in front of me.

Yeah the scholar isn’t an economist, but he shouldn’t be dishing out conspiracy theories either, oblivious to the realities of this world. I don’t surround myself with atheists and agnostics, I’m not making so vague assumptions about the bearded. Some of my best friends are staunch Muslims with long thick beards. And their ideas about how much freedom a woman should have aren’t all that awesome. Everyone is anti-democracy, pro-jihad(the violent kind) at some level.

The mullahs will keep pushing people away, until they step into this century.

About Hanson. Can’t relate with someone living in the west either. Living in the west is easy, no offence. So he doesn’t have the solutions to my problems, I’d be surprised if the guy knew anything about this place.

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No it doesn’t say that. It says I wish I believed in him. She could wish that for a number of reasons.

Fitting in, not feeling left or like an outsider when people talk about religion, cause disagreeing with them openly is not an option.

Right now she’s in a state of not knowing what’s out there. With religion, there was no such feeling. You knew what was waiting for you on the other side. Right now is a lot more confusing.

There can be many other reasons for wanting to believe. But wanting to believe is not equal to believing.

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The last part of sentence is “I wish I had that faith in him” .

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No one wishes for something which one strongly believes not to be present. **

One wishes (stronger belief-“that faith”) on something one believes to be there. (Theist but weaker)

Otherwise, one would say.

" I do not believe something is present" (Atheist)

“I am not sure there is someone out there” (Agnostic)

“I know there is someone out there” (Theist stronger)

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I’d say agnostic, who has a particular fondness for Islam because she was born into it.

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Saeed you know zpakistani people are very frustrated and depressed with country situation, when they don’t know what to do, they just start accusing be it a Shia or anti american. Brother you should read my another thread where I said traditional way of preaching is not effecting you g generation, they are curious and practical. Islamist way of life with every perfection in it, people suppressing ladies is not from Islam , it’s from Indian culture. I think that most of desi people don’t have much knowledge and depth about deen. Ladies have every single right in Islam from living alone with their husbands to doing job.

The problem I see in you Saeed is that you are just frustrated and depressed, of course Karachi ke halat and country situation is not good either so I can understand. But first that should not sop us from making dua and Ibadat even sometimes you don’t feel like it. Second in case of deen don’t listen to every person, what’s happening to Shia, mullahs against ladies. Study yourself, get good books and authentic books try to understand them yourself may be it will open your mind. if you are impressed by U.S. nothing wrong in it, country ke halat hi aisay hain ke people should migrate but don’t leave deen instead carry it with you to another country so you can practice more.

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Good. I thought of that one too.

But changed since there is more towards acceptance (or willingness to accept) than denial.

The degree of belief and disbelief makes a weak believer agnostic.

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Huma, I am working hard on the Huma approach - be courteous while making a point. A few rough edges persist.let me put on my courteous hat and make the following observation followed by a query.

Observation: extreme ends of the spectrum is commonly used here.
Query - what is your definition of " extreme ends of spectrum"? Are they equivalent. In terms of damage done to society?

Bonus question- how am I doing with the Huma approach to communication?

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I’m not impressed. It’s just that they’re just people like us. People can’t inherently be evil because of their religion, or lack of one.

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What hindu woman say about islam
jus came across this vdo thought to post it here!
What hindu woman say about islam - YouTube

So how does salat re-inforce imaan. Especially when you read it in a rushed manner?

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im lill surprise to read ur comments:sigh: offering namaz in hurry is like one’s banging his/her head on floor,not praying to the Lord Almighty Allah Subhanaotallah,salat re inforces Iman ONLY wen prayed with heart n soul thinking that he or she is infront of Allah Subhanaotallah,and do his ruku n sujoods like he/she is a slave of ALLAH AlMIGHTY n Allah is watching him/her,he knows wht’s in his mind,or wether is in rush or praying with heart n soul,u can be a five time namazi but if ur Namaz doesn’t hv rooh in it then its not Namaz its jus an excersice…its like ur infront of ALLAH but ur not attentive towards him…and if ur in a meeting with ur boss,n he’s telling u something important,and if ur not paying attention towards wht he’s asking u to do then ur boss will say ur not listening to me,ur not attentive n he will probably scold u for that…then next time you will make sure that u pay due attention…dunia mein boss ka itna dar hota hai logon ko magar us khuda ka dar nai hota jiski har roz nafarmani kartein hain so sad!

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Om namo Narayanaya!