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Keep it civil guys!
Or the mighty partyslims will censor all who speak.
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there is a happy medium somewhere and I know it is hard to find, especially if it is many people with very diverse backgrounds interacting.
On one hand I personally am tired of chaska threads which are intended as just that and seem like withdrawal symptoms of akhbar e jahan teen aurtein teen kahaniaan (which btw was a family magazine :) )
... at the same time, not everything is a taboo, and not being able to discuss things creates other issues. for example..at one point in time, and in many quarters even now, molestation...adult or child was something that simply was not talked about, victims blamed themselves, had no support, had no resources, and were essentially shut up while the predators loomed large and went after other victims,
opening up to acknowledge there are such issues and the ability to discuss uncomfortable yet real topics is not bad in my view. What that balance is, where does something get too risqué is very tough. although looking at post after post from individuals gives a good idea of whether there is serious intent or just some further twisted version of chaska/khwari combo and it speaks volumes about the individuals.
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there is a happy medium somewhere and I know it is hard to find, especially if it is many people with very diverse backgrounds interacting.
On one hand I personally am tired of chaska threads which are intended as just that and seem like withdrawal symptoms of akhbar e jahan teen aurtein teen kahaniaan (which btw was a family magazine :) )
... at the same time, not everything is a taboo, and not being able to discuss things creates other issues. for example..at one point in time, and in many quarters even now, molestation...adult or child was something that simply was not talked about, victims blamed themselves, had no support, had no resources, and were essentially shut up while the predators loomed large and went after other victims,
opening up to acknowledge there are such issues and the ability to discuss uncomfortable yet real topics is not bad in my view. What that balance is, where does something get too risqué is very tough. although looking at post after post from individuals gives a good idea of whether there is serious intent or just some further twisted version of chaska/khwari combo and it speaks volumes about the individuals.
This.
Discussion about a woman's fidelity may offend you, but it may not offend others. Just different thresholds about what is considered risque. If it's done without being crude then I see no issue. I don't think Islam discourages discussion about sex. You can simply avoid threads that may offend you.
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^ Zis truth.
end German.
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As X2 said, it depends upon the intention. Some people create threads to get a chaska/cheap thrill out of it and others have genuine concerns. Queen, the topics that you mentioned such as sex, virginity, how to conceive children, etc ARE a part of life....they come with their issues...and they not only affect you but society as well. While Islam emphasizes decency, it also discusses matters which culture considers taboo. To gain knowledge/have a healthy discussion about a topic can be liberating, it can help you consider things from various perspectives and make decisions, it can help one differentiate between right and wrong. If your mind is closed, you can't develop it or shape your belief system with understanding. Oversheltering and approaching every issue with a "haaw haaai, tauba tauba" attitude can backfire. For example, the few threads we've had were adult girls have not an inkling about the existence of sexual intimacy in a marriage; that sort of ignorance is not only disturbing, but can be traumatizing as well. Not everything is so black and white, Queen.
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"best s*x styles to concieve a baby" and when someone objects over it, they say, "so what, its just for concieving a baby" thats it!!
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But for someone who HAS been trying for ages to conceive children, this would be a very relevant discussion. And there ARE theories about which sexual positions increase chances for conception, when you should have sex to help conception, and even which kind of diet increases chances of having either a boy or a girl, etc. I imagine these ideas would have greater validity than daadi amma's more "halaal/shareef" sounding totka of drinking doodh to get a gora chitta baby.
Tell me something, Queen. Before you decided that asking about sexual positions to conceive a baby was a shameful thread.....did you even bother to do some research about this topic? For example, did you find out about what fertility/medical websites/doctors, etc have to say about this particular point? Did you stop to think that maybe the person asking the question has had trouble conceiving a baby? Ya sirf apni taraf se you quickly judged the person as baysharam? It goes back to the point that I made in my previous post. Developing your knowledge can help you see things from different perspectives as opposed to making premature judgments that carry little weight.
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I agree with Queen. And for the very reasons I don't participate much either. I believe what Queen was trying say was that there are things that don't need to be put out there, and there are things that are discussed because a desperate pervert finds it funny to discuss. I'm sure whoever is trying to conceive can google sex positions or go to a medical health website and find that information from experts. And people who are opening countless threads on virginity or Butt pillows and stuff really are trolling to the max. You can clearly tell that Life1 has been trolled like no other! The tone of the OP is very clear that if they are really concerned about an issue or are just there to get the laughs, which is why GS has CAFE! Lets not forget this is a Pakistani Forum, with moderately liberal users.
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^Sure, they can google expert websites, but one can also learn about things through other people/resources, right? For example, you might learn about a scientifically valid point from a parent, sibling, friend, coworker. You hear it from one source and then use an expert resource to confirm/disconfirm what you heard. Or you may have read about something, such as product/medicine/treatment, and want to know about reviews and success rates from people who have implemented it. For some people, it's easier to discus a matter in anonymity.
Yes, it's true that some people are only looking for a chaska. But I don't think it's so easy as to blame the thread creator. It ALSO depends upon the maturity of the READER. If Queen thinks it's wrong to discuss sexual positions to conceive......than it's also wrong for her to make quick judgments about the character/intention of one asking such a question especially if the thread carries a serious tone and is not of the butt-pillow variety. I remember once someone said that innocent minds can be the dirtiest....because of the conclusions it can jump to and the crazy notions that ignorance can bring about...and I think there's some truth to that. Pakistani forum? Pakistanis are confronted with the same issues as other people the world over. A Muslim is not only one who has hayaa, but also seeks knowledge as that helps in strengthening faith. One might read a hadith dealing with sex and sure the s-word might evoke images in a person's mind....but it depends upon the maturity of the reader. For people who fear that certain words are suggestive or evoke certain images...where is the line drawn?
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butt pillow was a classic. 
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Do you have one?
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No doubt about that, what did you think about “my uncle Joe”
This is the best thread queen had ever opened.
@queen_27
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queen_24, :k:
It is just that, it upgrades the cool factor of people.
It is all a part of being modern, openminded, educated blalabla.
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there is a happy medium somewhere and I know it is hard to find, especially if it is many people with very diverse backgrounds interacting.
On one hand I personally am tired of chaska threads which are intended as just that and seem like withdrawal symptoms of akhbar e jahan teen aurtein teen kahaniaan (which btw was a family magazine :) )
... at the same time, not everything is a taboo, and not being able to discuss things creates other issues. for example..at one point in time, and in many quarters even now, molestation...adult or child was something that simply was not talked about, victims blamed themselves, had no support, had no resources, and were essentially shut up while the predators loomed large and went after other victims,
opening up to acknowledge there are such issues and the ability to discuss uncomfortable yet real topics is not bad in my view. What that balance is, where does something get too risqué is very tough. although looking at post after post from individuals gives a good idea of whether there is serious intent or just some further twisted version of chaska/khwari combo and it speaks volumes about the individuals.
let me explain if i can, I do not oppose to discuss the genuine issues like molestation, virginity etc, ONLY IF discussed in a positive manner. see, here I am talking about those threads, which have nothing to do with the reality, or/and society! threads like, i dont want to name them here but you just search here and you will differentiate between two different threads related to s*x, one which was a real issue and should have to be discussed and other.. opened just for fun! (you can find more examples) with silly questions and posts! now thats what I meant!
But for someone who HAS been trying for ages to conceive children, this would be a very relevant discussion. And there ARE theories about which sexual positions increase chances for conception, when you should have sex to help conception, and even which kind of diet increases chances of having either a boy or a girl, etc. I imagine these ideas would have greater validity than daadi amma's more "halaal/shareef" sounding totka of drinking doodh to get a gora chitta baby.
Tell me something, Queen. Before you decided that asking about sexual positions to conceive a baby was a shameful thread.....did you even bother to do some research about this topic? For example, did you find out about what fertility/medical websites/doctors, etc have to say about this particular point? Did you stop to think that maybe the person asking the question has had trouble conceiving a baby? Ya sirf apni taraf se you quickly judged the person as baysharam? It goes back to the point that I made in my previous post. Developing your knowledge can help you see things from different perspectives as opposed to making premature judgments that carry little weight.
I wanted to have information when required and never opened a thread so openly, we have other ways too to acquire the information, Google is the best search engine, why can't one google it, or EVERYTIME one has to learn from others experiences? achi baten to doosro ke experiences se nahin seekhi jaateen? sirf s*x k mamly main experienced log chahye hain? still you can read the Blogs!!
^Sure, they can google expert websites, but one can also learn about things through other people/resources, right? For example, you might learn about a scientifically valid point from a parent, sibling, friend, coworker. You hear it from one source and then use an expert resource to confirm/disconfirm what you heard. Or you may have read about something, such as product/medicine/treatment, and want to know about reviews and success rates from people who have implemented it. For some people, it's easier to discus a matter in anonymity. ** Yes, it's true that some people are only looking for a chaska. But I don't think it's so easy as to blame the thread creator. It ALSO depends upon the maturity of the READER. If Queen thinks it's wrong to discuss sexual positions to conceive......than it's also wrong for her to make quick judgments about the character/intention of one asking such a question especially if the thread carries a serious tone and is not of the **butt-pillow variety. I remember once someone said that innocent minds can be the dirtiest....because of the conclusions it can jump to and the crazy notions that ignorance can bring about...and I think there's some truth to that. Pakistani forum? Pakistanis are confronted with the same issues as other people the world over. A Muslim is not only one who has hayaa, but also seeks knowledge as that helps in strengthening faith. One might read a hadith dealing with sex and sure the s-word might evoke images in a person's mind....but it depends upon the maturity of the reader. For people who fear that certain words are suggestive or evoke certain images...where is the line drawn?
I think, you haven't got my point. When discussed in a decent way, everything is fine, why dont you open up your eyes and look around some people are just really making fun of the most important things and sometimes they comment so b*sh that you dont feel good while reading! the example i gave for concieving baby is just not that easy.. if you get the 5 genuine replies for such a thread, you will get more than 20 stupid replies that can ruin the decency of the whole issue, also on the other hand, some OPs start thread just for fun, where when you read it, you yourself realise that it was opened just for fun! now what kind of question is it, have you ever been asked for virginity when they came up for your rishta? do you think, its a genuine question?
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I hope, some people get my point here!
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I hope, some people get my point here!
My eyes are open and working just fine, Aasha Parekh. I've already mentioned, had you read my posts thoroughly, that I don't support the chaska type threads. You're just stating the obvious. However, you missed the point that you cannot rush to the conclusion that just because a thread is about a topic that YOU consider to be taboo...that it is was created with the intention to get some sort of cheap thrill. Anyhow... I wish you bliss in your ignorance, deliberate and otherwise.
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queen24 - sorry
good topic good intentions (and i agree with you) but this is about it
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what ever you think Tiny Toon Adventure, if YOU dont support that chaska threads & understood my point why you brought the twist all between??
thanks for your wishes, anyways! 
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Queen Aap aram kare
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Queen, I wasn't adding any "twist." And what you perceive as a "twist" was my way of pointing out that things are not always so black and white with the topics you read about. I think it's healthy, even necessary, for one to consider various perspectives/reasons/exceptions, etc.