I am the expert says Zardari.....

A glimpse in to what is in store for the nation…Mr. Zardari is in a mindset where he believes he is an expert on everything…the same illusion the former illegal president had when he totally disregarded the essence of collective leadership…and people are fearing he will bypass the parliament, prime minister, ministers, experts etc.

This is the same scenario where we saw a dictator in last 9 years single handedly destroyed every institution and did whatever came to his mind and whatever suited his personal interests…I hope Mr. Zardari will prove us wrong and will not create a civilian dictatorship after becoming President…

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/world/asia/05zardari.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

**Bhutto Widower With Clouded Past Is Set to Lead **

By JANE PERLEZ
Published: September 4, 2008
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of Benazir Bhutto, is set to become president on Saturday, an accidental ascent for a man known more as a wheeler-dealer than a leader. He will start his tenure burdened by a history of corruption allegations that cloud his reputation even as they remain unproved.

Though he has won the reluctant support of the Bush administration, which views him as a willing partner in the campaign against terrorism, Mr. Zardari will assume the presidency with what many consider untested governing skills as a tough Taliban insurgency threatens the very fabric of Pakistan, a nuclear-armed state of 165 million people.

It remains to be seen how forcefully he will act against militants in the face of Pakistani public opposition to American pressure. Nor is it clear how much influence he exerts over the still powerful military and the nation’s premier spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence.

The editor in chief of the Daily Times, Najam Sethi, once an opponent and now a supporter of Mr. Zardari, said the elevation of Mr. Zardari would suit the Americans. Mr. Zardari, he said, “will learn on the job.” And indeed, Mr. Zardari, 53, has shown canny political skills as he has moved in the last two weeks to outmaneuver his former coalition partner, Nawaz Sharif, who served twice as prime minister.

But with the economy in a downward spiral and foreign exchange reserves perilously low, Mr. Zardari’s reputation for using political perches to benefit himself and his friends has left many here and in Washington worried about how he will restore economic confidence.

There are concerns about the oversight of a $15 billion package of nonmilitary aid proposed by the Democratic vice presidential nominee, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, and backed by the Bush administration.

Mr. Zardari declined to be interviewed for this article. Pakistan’s information minister, Sherry Rehman, said it was too “sensitive” for him to talk before the election.

Pakistan has only $6 billion in foreign exchange reserves, disappearing at the rate of close to $2 billion a month to pay for oil and food. Several prominent economists and businessmen said much investor nervousness stemmed from mistrust of Mr. Zardari, who was investment minister in Ms. Bhutto’s government when it was accused of demanding illicit payments in return for deals that exceeded the accepted levels of corruption in Pakistan.

Fiscal Ability Questioned

Two recent decisions by Mr. Zardari showed a disregard for Pakistan’s alarming deficits, they said, speaking anonymously because they did not want to publicly criticize the next president.

**In April, Mr. Zardari told Ishaq Dar, the finance minister at the time and a member of Mr. Sharif’s party, which has since broken with Mr. Zardari, that he wanted the price the government paid farmers for wheat to be raised substantially as a way of rewarding an important constituency in Punjab Province, the nation’s most populous, according to two participants in the discussion with Mr. Zardari. The government would then have to heavily subsidize the cost of wheat to the consumer.

When Mr. Dar asked Mr. Zardari how he thought the government would pay for the subsidy, Mr. Zardari replied, “Print the notes,” according to the two participants, a government official and an associate of Mr. Zardari’s. In an effort to solve the impasse over the subsidy, it was suggested that Mr. Zardari form a committee of experts.

“ ‘I am the expert,’ ” Mr. Zardari said, according to his associate. **

Farahnaz Ispahani, a spokeswoman for Mr. Zardari’s party, denied the account.

The two officials described another episode in May as the budget was being prepared. Mr. Zardari decided to scrap a proposed capital gains tax after a visit from a group of influential stockbrokers from the Karachi stock exchange, they said. The revenue from the capital gains tax, and from an income tax proposal on the rich, would have paid for an income support program for the poorest Pakistanis, they said. More than half of Pakistanis live on less than $2 a day, according to the World Bank.

In Mr. Zardari’s defense, the finance minister, Naveed Qamar, said that political stability would be restored to Pakistan once Mr. Zardari was president, and that the unsettled economy would benefit from the new political order.

Others were not so sure.

“Zardari will wield unprecedented power for a civilian president,” said Maleeha Lodhi, who was appointed as Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States by Ms. Bhutto and then by Gen. Pervez Musharraf when he was Pakistan’s leader. “But he may lack authority in view of his checkered and controversial past.”

Indeed, Mr. Zardari, who is expected to be chosen in Saturday’s election by the Parliament and four provisional assemblies, is the unintended beneficiary of sweeping powers accumulated by President Musharraf, including the right to dismiss the army chief of staff and dissolve Parliament.

Mr. Zardari will now become the civilian official Washington relies on as it tries to persuade Pakistan to take a stronger stance against militants who are using the northern tribal areas as a sanctuary to attack American and NATO forces in Afghanistan. Despite their reservations, American officials prefer him to Mr. Sharif because they believe that Mr. Zardari’s Pakistan Peoples Party, more secular than Mr. Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League-N, will be more likely to confront militants.

Mr. Zardari has displayed a sudden willingness to take on the Taliban, saying last week that he would ban them and freeze their assets, a starting point strongly favored by the State Department, though it would have limited practical impact.

“Zardari is a businessman,” said a Western diplomat. “He says to himself: ‘I know I need American support. What do they want? They want this,’ ” meaning a stance against the Taliban.

Little Sway With Military

But as Mr. Zardari moved to the fore, some efforts to please Washington have exposed his uneasy relationship with the military, and Inter-Services Intelligence, the powerful spy agency he accused of assassinating his wife last December.

An effort to control the agency and impress the Bush administration failed in July. Washington has said that the agency is involved in sabotaging American interests by supporting the Taliban in the tribal region. Mr. Zardari and an Interior Ministry official directed that the agency report to the Interior Ministry; the military swiftly ordered that the notice be retracted.

“His first attempt to get control of the army and ISI was a total failure that showed a naïveté about how the army and the ISI work,” said Bruce Riedel, a member of the National Security Council in the Clinton administration who now advises the Obama campaign on Pakistan.

In five months as head of the governing coalition that collapsed after pushing Mr. Musharraf from power, Mr. Zardari filled important government posts with people he knew from jail and exile. He refused to reinstate the chief justice of the Supreme Court, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, whom President Musharraf removed. His opponents charge that Mr. Zardari feared that Mr. Chaudhry might have reversed an amnesty that allowed Mr. Zardari’s corruption cases to be dropped.

Mr. Zardari was in jail from 1990 to 1993 after Ms. Bhutto’s first term and from 1996 to 2004 after her second term. He maintains that the corruption charges, and a murder charge, were politically motivated by forces trying to minimize his influence, and that he refused offers for early release from prison.

In Britain Mr. Zardari faced a civil case brought by the Pakistani government charging that he had paid for a country manor with ill-gotten gains. In order to win a delay in the British courts, Mr. Zardari filed affidavits in early 2006 from two doctors in New York saying he was mentally unable to assist his lawyers.

Mr. Zardari, then living at the Helmsley Carlton apartment block on 61st Street and Madison Avenue, who friends said appeared to be in good spirits, suffered from dementia, major depressive disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder, according to affidavits first reported by The Financial Times.

Acquittal and Amnesty

Pakistan’s high commissioner in London, Wajid Shamsul Hasan, who was recently appointed by Mr. Zardari and is a longtime friend, said Mr. Zardari was now healthy. Mr. Zardari was one of more than a dozen people accused of a conspiracy in 1996 to kill Ms. Bhutto’s brother, a political opponent of Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto. The high court in Sindh Province, Mr. Zardari’s political base, acquitted him in the murder case in April.

Last week, a Swiss prosecutor dismissed a case in which Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto were found guilty in 2003 on money laundering charges involving illegal commissions they had received from two Swiss companies, Cotecna and Société Générale de Surveillance. The court ordered them to return $12 million to the Pakistani government.

The Pakistani government dropped the charges this year, after Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto had been offered an amnesty on their corruption charges. The Swiss authorities said that they could no longer pursue the case and that they would release $60 million of Mr. Zardari’s funds.

After the announcement in Geneva, Mr. Zardari told a Pakistani journalist, according to an account in the daily newspaper The News, that the original conviction in 2003 was the result of a bribe paid to the magistrate by the Pakistani government.

A report on private banking and money laundering in the United States, done for the Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations in 1999, cited allegations that some of Mr. Zardari’s Citibank accounts were used to “disguise $10 million in kickbacks for a gold importing contract in Pakistan.” The report said that Mr. Zardari had accumulated $40 million in Citibank accounts. He denied the charges, and the head of the gold company identified in the report denied he had paid bribes.

**Mr. Zardari’s position as head of state will be a giant leap from the days when he accompanied Ms. Bhutto on her official trips. In his autobiography, a former leader of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, wrote that he found Mr. Zardari “a likable rogue” who tried to impress with chatter about his real estate and export deals. **

Increasingly worried about his personal security, Mr. Zardari is now living at the prime minister’s house in Islamabad, the residence that he and Ms. Bhutto had designed during her tenure. Out back is the polo field built to indulge his passion for horses.

After the vote on Saturday, he will live in the presidential palace, a white marble edifice in the center of the capital, designed by Edward Durell Stone, the American architect of the Kennedy Center in Washington.

There, behind the tall colonnades and long corridors, according to a close associate, he will have achieved three things he most covets.

As president he will have, according to the Constitution, immunity from prosecution. He will enjoy top-notch security. And he will be provided with the rites of protocol that will allow him to appear on the world stage as a leader in his own right, and not just as the spouse of one.

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We used to pass by this magnificent palace and laugh as to how Zardari was ousted right before its completion back in 1997, and looks like he got his wish!

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Increasingly worried about his personal security, Mr. Zardari is now living at the prime minister’s house in Islamabad, the residence that he and Ms. Bhutto had designed during her tenure. Out back is the polo field built to indulge his passion for horses.
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Re: I am the expert says Zardari.....

whole nation is on suicide mission, they know this guy is not good for Pakistan, still PPP and sold members of assemblies and toothless awam letting this happen to Pakistan. a country who was headed by great leaders like Jinnah once had to see this day! and even the army is quite, if they stop it now, there will be very less chance of another martial law but that may be what they wanted and letting this happen intentially.

Pakistan is passing through dark and difficult times and with this crook who should be punished for his deeds is being given a top job of the country.

its dark and much ashamed day, and true its a best revenge as BB said!

Assalamu alaikum to Sunni Muslims

All the fault for Pakistan's problems with the Pakistani people. How could they be so stupid to vote for this peoples party? These are the same idiots who made benazir the leader of an Islamic nation, despite the hadith of Nabi (sallallahu alaihi wa salam):

"Such people as ruled by a lady will never be successful" (Sahih Bukhari)

This is probably the reason Pakistan has never had any success, making Benazir the leader of our country was the biggest mistake in the history of Pakistan that is having divine repercussions even till this day. It was an immense blessing from Allah that wretched woman was shot in the head, otherwise Pakistan would be ten times worse than it is now. Zardari is the most corrupt person ever, just look at his ugly face he looks like a big shaytan.

Re: I am the expert says Zardari.....

^^ 1. even I am againt PPP and BB the hadith doesnt ban women from taking leadership.
2. not going in face of zardari, most of the crooks in parliament looks as him., but all the great leadership or crookiness got him to this place

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even I am againt PPP and BB the hadith doesnt ban women from taking leadership.
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The hadith says a nation will never succeed with a woman as its ruler. If you still believe its okay for women to rule a nation you are simply crazy.

And look how true this hadith is, especially when applied to Pakistan. Ever since Benazir became the ruler of our country about twenty years ago, Pakistan has never had any succees, either economic or military, as well as any stability. That stupid piece of trash woman made a massive curse on Pakistan, and to think people were about to give her power for a third term! Alhamdulillah she got shot before this could ever happen.

Now expert Jardari is going to China, for what?

Zardari to visit China on 9th as president

ISLAMABAD: PPP Co-chairman and presidential hopeful Asif Ali Zardari, who is expected to win hands down on Saturday, is all set to embark on a visit to China within 72 hours of his election as the head of the state.

At least stick to one nick :rolleyes:

jahay naseeb jahay naseeb, ‘mehman’ aaye hain
jaban par control jaroori hai warna pakray jatay hain sahibjaday :wink:

expert at what?? lootmaar, dakazani, chorbazari, badmaashi etc.

Hola hath rakh shahjaday. ;-)

** Pakistan's Zardari marked by corruption, tragedy **

                             By STEPHEN GRAHAM, Associated Press Writer

                     ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - The likely next president of unstable, nuclear-armed Pakistan following Saturday's election is a horse-loving aristocrat who has spent more years in prison than in politics — a novice leader lifted to prominence by his marriage to Benazir Bhutto and propelled into power by her murder

Asif Ali Zardari, the man poised to replace America's longtime ally, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, carries the baggage of years of corruption charges and a mixed record on confronting the looming threat of the resurgent Taliban movement tightening its grip on Pakistan's border regions and possibly sheltering the al-Qaida leadership.
Like his wife, Zardari has been branded as supremely corrupt and pursued through the courts by foes including Musharraf. A decade in jail damaged his health — perhaps even his mind — though he was never convicted.
Now, eight months after Bhutto's assassination in a gun-and-bomb attack, his trademark grin is back and likely to beam again below his trim salt-and-pepper mustache after Saturday's presidential vote by legislators.
Having seized control of Bhutto's political party, Pakistan's biggest, the 53-year-old seems set for a comfortable win in a three-way tussle with a senator from the main pro-Musharraf party and a retired judge backed by another former premier, Nawaz Sharif.
Zardari's bid to succeed U.S. ally Musharraf is only the latest switchback in Pakistan's dizzying return to a semblance of democratic government after nine years of military rule.
Once described by his wife as a man with no interest in party politics, he now stands to become one of the most powerful civilian leaders in the nation's turbulent 61-year history.
The president can dissolve parliament and appoint army chiefs, and chairs the joint civilian-military committee that controls Pakistan's nuclear weapons.
Since engineering Musharraf's ouster with threats of impeachment, Zardari and senior party lieutenants have matched the former general's tough line against terrorism, insisting the battle against Islamic militants along the Afghan border is Pakistan's war.
That plays well in Washington, but the test will be how much clout he wields over the military, whose stop-start battles with militants along the border have failed to halt the rising strength of the Taliban.
Pakistan's ambassador in London, Wajid Hassan, pleaded with the West to give the new government to implement plans to tackle the Taliban threat, suggesting in an interview with The Associated Press that military force could backfire by turning people against the authorities, while persuasion might work better.
"We want to get them down off the fence and onto our side," he said of Pakistanis harboring Taliban in the border areas. He outlined expensive and ambitious reforms that would include economic and education incentives. At the moment, he said, Taliban supporters are getting paid more than Pakistani soldiers.
To pull off such a program, in a nation of 160 million riven by ethnic and sectarian tensions as well as vast disparities in wealth, will be an early test of Zardari's leadership skills.
Until his arranged marriage to Bhutto in 1987, Zardari was the unremarkable son of a landowning businessman and tribal chief from the southern province of Sindh.
Like many of this Muslim country's elite, he attended Christian missionary schools and a top boarding school on the banks of the Indus River near Hyderabad. He has claimed to hold a bachelor's degree from a business school in London, but his party has been unable to produce a certificate or establish what he studied.
Winning the hand of Bhutto, daughter of Pakistan's most prominent political family, cemented his reputation as a charmer. Bhutto said he was gallant and caring, recalling how he once rushed her to the hospital with a bee sting, and appreciated the fact that he understood that politics would dominate her attention.
However, Zardari says he had little idea of the political storm that went along with the marriage.
"It spun my life," Zardari told the BBC this year. "I had no idea, because I didn't know what this world was."
It was a sharp learning curve.
Zardari was quickly accused of meddling in the affairs of Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party and sidelining party stalwarts in favor of cronies. He served as minister for the environment and investment in the second of her two governments, each of which was dismissed before the end of its term for corruption and misrule.
Foes and many ordinary Pakistanis still refer to him as Mr. Ten Percent, because of allegations that he pocketed commissions on government contracts for everything from a license to import gold to the purchase of 8,000 Polish tractors.
At one point, the couple was accused of spiriting $1.5 billion out of the country. Zardari was charged with murder in the mysterious shooting death of Bhutto's estranged brother. He was accused of spending state money on polo ponies — and the apples to feed them at the prime minister's residence.
He endured about 11 years in jail in two spells as well as marathon court proceedings. But he was never convicted at home or in corruption and money-laundering investigations in Britain, Spain and Switzerland.
Zardari insists the cases were politically motivated attempts — first by archrival Nawaz Sharif, later by Musharraf and the military-dominated establishment he represented — to demonize his wife and prevent her return from self-imposed exile in Dubai and London.
When she did come back last October, it was under an ill-fated power-sharing deal with Musharraf, who ordered an amnesty covering all corruption cases pending from Bhutto's terms of office.
Zardari did not initially follow her home. He spent much of the time after his release from jail in 2004 in New York and reportedly received treatment for ailments including heart and back problems that his aides attributed to his prolonged incarceration.
In a court case in London, his lawyers even argued he had suffered stress-induced mental illness — though supporters insist he has made a full recovery and is fit to be president.

Having rushed home to bury Bhutto, Zardari revealed his political steel in taking the reins of her party and leading it to victory in February parliamentary elections.
Zardari shares Bhutto's liberal, pro-Western outlook. He has spoken wistfully of a more tolerant age, before al-Qaida and Islamic extremism infected Pakistan, when women would ride bicycles through the streets of Karachi.
The couple's eldest son Bilawal, already earmarked to take over the party, is following in his mother's footsteps by studying at Oxford University.
By outmaneuvering Sharif, who last month quit the ruling coalition after accusing Zardari of duplicity, Zardari showed a shrewdness that has impressed many, and some are willing to wait and see whether he can stabilize Pakistan — and whether he has learned from any sins in his past.
He may lack Bhutto's charisma, but his gender may be a plus in dealing with the Taliban-infested tribal areas, said Hassan, the London ambassador.
"In those tribal areas where male chauvinism is still order of the day, he will be more acceptable to them," he said in an interview.
"Even his worst enemies couldn't prove anything against him," said Javaidur Rehman, a businessman in Multan who organizes trade fairs for foreign investors. "Everyone is full of mistakes, but we should not doubt his sincerity. His family has made too many sacrifices."


Associated Press Writer Paisley Dodds in London contributed to this report.

Re: I am the expert says Zardari.....

he didn't reach there all on his own nor did he planned all this.
millions of people have voted for him & declared him the one who deserve to be in power

This is the second time he has stated that he is the expert....this time on economy and does not need to consult anyone as he claims he is the most knowledgeable...

First time was when he stated he should not be dictated on judiciary matters as he himself is the best legal expert...as he has spent years in jail himself...

These two incidents reveal the state of mind our new President has....I was wondering if ever we will have leadership in our country who is not so much self obssessed....and believe in collective decision making as per the requirements of parliamentry democracy....

Are we going to see a rubber stamp parliament and puppet prime minister with his irrelevant cabinet...and Mr. Zardari calling the shots as per his personal likings and dislikings suiting his personal interests without facing any accountability.....just like the former illegal President did for past 9 years which resulted in a deep economic, legal, security, and perception crisis the country is facing today!!!

^ Yeah I fear for the worst. would be glad to be proved wrong by Mr 10%.

Re: I am the expert says Zardari.....

Was not Musharraf better?

Nope, if Zardari is the fruit then I don't like Musharraf as the seed!

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wasn't BB part of the seed as well.
so zardari is mush and BB's political child it seems.

Did I say I liked BB? :naraz:

BTW BB kept Zardari away from politics until she died and made him the surviving “chief” of PPP in the “will”.

I did not say u liked BB,

I just said zardari is beneficiary of the NRO that was basically negotiated more for BB than for him, unless the architects had this as a goal to begin with. kinda interesting that mehsud was behind it, especially since he was deemed so harmless that he was released a few years ago.

ofcourse BB giving the party to her husband in her will did not help much either (if she infact left it to him to begin with)

especially with the power hungry politicians, who either did not have the balls to oppose it, or supported it knowing that it will be their ticket back into power, and that is what mattered to them rather than the leadership of the party.

No one is clean here.