i think that afghanistan has gone from bad to worse since the taliban left the reason for this is that at least the women knew that they had security that no body could touch them.
and now ppl from uk america and nato have gone in saying that they are helping the ppl but they are not they have raped, abused women, killed young men,boys, and boy babies so that Islam is no more and if there are no men then how can the human race carry on without men.
the taliban should have stayed and at least islam was getting to the ears of ppl even if they didn’t want to know
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i think that afghanistan has gone from bad to worse since the taliban left the reason for this is that at least the women knew that they had security that no body could touch them.
and now ppl from uk america and nato have gone in saying that they are helping the ppl but they are not they have raped, abused women, killed young men,boys, and boy babies so that Islam is no more and if there are no men then how can the human race carry on without men.
the taliban should have stayed and at least islam was getting to the ears of ppl even if they didn't want to know
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Aneeka19, do you know anything about the Taliban? This is a rhetoric
question as you have shown through your statements that you do not. Also please give a link that support your accusations against the western nations.
please study living condition reports from variosu relief orgs there.
i guess a really good indicator cou;ld be infant mortality rates, literacy rates, over all health conditions etc etc.
taleban? islam? huh? there is no compulsion in religion. Taleban were anything but following that.
Aneeka is mullah omar with time to kill and a quick access to the net. Hey get over it Omar! Suliban of Star Trek are going to have a longer run than the Taliban. Taliban's history.
You'll find that some people display so much hatred for Taliban, but if you were to ask these very same people a simple question on Islaam, they would be unable to answer it.
I sincerely suggest to them that they first learn about Islaam, before they judge by it!
WasSalaam
Excercise - for those people.
As you know, Tawheed is the first pillar of Islaam. What are the 3 categories of Tawheed?
And as you also know, Salaah is the second pillar of Islaam. What are the conditions for salaah?
You don't have to post your answers. These questions are just to make us realise how little we know about Islaam, yet we are hasty in judging by the very same Religion.
also to all you guys
i am not saying that all of them things that they did were acceptable
i am just saying that at least they were keeping Islam going and now look it hasn’t been a minute and some of the women r walking around no headscarves:Pretty: and the men have shaved of their beards:smokin2:
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kareem
it isn't my falut if only men reply to this topic it is open to girls too.
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The point being that your wonderful Taliban who were "keeping Islam going" were against such interaction between the sexes (you could very well be beaten with a stick). The were against education and equal rights for women. Not to mention computers and the internet were against the law. Sounds like you have done enough wrong here to have a wall toppled on you, or at the least be shot and killed in a soccer stadium in front of other adoring Taliban fans.
Just IMHO…existence/length of a beard won’t guarantee access to jannah nor does it make a person “good” or “bad”. Prophet Muhammad, may peace and Blessings be upon him, was able to keep “Islam going” quite well, within Arabia and subsequently beyond, without resorting to imposing the type of laws the Taliban did. i’ve seen, touched, and talked with just a micro-fraction of some of their victims - maybe, initially, they possessed noble dreams of furthering the cause of Islam..not certain about that. i cannot imagine that what they ended up doing at the end, has any relation with Islam. Infact, i am unable to imagine it as having any relation with any religion… no religion would preach implementing some of the policies that they did.
By the way, if you ever get the time, useful book to check out is Ahmed Rashid’s Taliban.
Whatever was happening in Afghanistan before & now isn’t any different. Faces have changed, the poor helpless people are the same. But fates of nations don't change over night, it takes time and I can only hope that the Afgans will grow out of their inner fractions & try to build their nation.
Nadia, you should be a little more expressive about your first hand experience in Afghanistan. We all need to know about the true ground reality & you will have to overcome your humbleness a little for our sake. :)
shes rite....the security tht was present at the time of the taliban is no more.....ud get the same answer if u asked a sikh livin in Jalalabad....but they were unfair to women.....n im not so sure bout the accusations against the west.....well the American soldiers dnt respect the afghani culture....they jus enter a house with women sittin rite there.....this isnt accpetable to Pashtuns.
Bilal Tarar Sahib. Who the hell cares what is acceptable to Pashtuns and what is not? If public murdering of women in football stadiums can be acceptable to Pashtus, then why cry over house searches? I am baffled. Help me understand please.
Easy for people to sit thousands of miles away from Afghanistan on their arses and making opinions on Taliban based on CNN and that famous documentary on BBC.
Taliban was the best thing that happened to Afghanistan in mans age, even though I dont agree with them on everything. Things are much worse now, especially with notorious rapists and molestors in the Northern Alliance now controlling the Afghanistan.
Aneeka, I don't think you have any idea what the Taliban, or Northern Alliance, have done to Afghanistan and its people. Kareem is right, you would probably be dead for coming to GS and interacting with men.
You are correct in saying that the situation is not much different today than it was 1 year ago, when the Taliban were active and strong. But that is because of puppet governments like Hamid Karzai who are stool pigeons for western superpowers. Neither the current government cares very much for the welfare of the Afghani people, nor did the past. But in the present government, due to the presence of some "liberal" elements, atleast international aid agencies and the like can operate in relative safety to bring some bits of comfort to the people. Before, under the Taliban, this was not even possible. Also, because of the intense pressure for women's rights and the spotlight on this issue throughout the foreign media, women can leave their homes now to do something - anything - to earn a living. They are still begging on the streets, like before.. but atleast now they are only concerned about poverty and their hunger, and not fear of Talibs everywhere.
Access the RAWA site on the web, get a visual glimpse of what the Taliban were like. This was not Islam that they practiced, but their own brand of oppressing power, and power has no religion.
There is quite a lot of hypocrisy here about the Taliban. Afghans were living like savages long before Taliban came and they continue to live like savages even now in most parts of the country after they are gone. Pashtuns IMO are amongst the most honourable of the lot although stuck in medieval times for sure. But then most of Afghanistan has been stuck in medieval times for the last few hundred years by choice anyway so why make such a big deal about the Taliban?
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But then most of Afghanistan has been stuck in medieval times for the last few hundred years by choice anyway so why make such a big deal about the Taliban?
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Because they are seen by their supportors as "Islamic". They pretend to do all they do in the glory of God and some think they represented the epitome of a "religous state".
though they were strict than they are know where they are constantly living in fear for themselves, for their families, for their
