Hussain handover ENG captaincy to Vaughan

ur opinion on this

don't give a rat's ass.

never liked Hussain - as a captain or a player.

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don't give a rat's ass.

never liked Hussain - as a captain or a player.
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Fungus c'mon yaar he said " he'd like to remembered as a captain who tried his best for his country and someone whom his player trusted " ....

well the guys at BBC observed that he in the match today which ended in a draw was somehow watching it passing by or so .....

to tell u the truth while watching the highlights i didn't saw much from Hussain and somehow i thought all the time that Vaughan is the skipper ....

**Vaughan takes England captaincy as Hussain resigns **

Wisden Cricinfo staff - July 28, 2003

Michael Vaughan was appointed as England’s new Test captain after Nasser Hussain stood down at the end of the first Test at Edgbaston. Hussain keeps his place in the team for the second Test at Lord’s starting on Thursday, with England’s selectors naming an unchanged XI.

But Hussain, 35, explained that he had “grown tired” of being skipper, less than five months after he resigned the one-day captaincy following England’s World Cup exit.

Hussain told the post-match news conference at Edgbaston that he felt the time was right to hand over to Michael Vaughan. “I feel it is coming to a slight change in era,” he said "I think Michael has shown in the last few months that he is a very capable leader and that’s what I have been waiting for. There are some good lads playing under him and the last thing they want is a tired leader.

“It’s not the sort of job where you just take the cash and plod on and stand at mid-off. I’ve always felt it’s the sort of job where you have to give it everything. After last winter the stuff that went on off the field and on the field in Australia there were a lot of difficult times. I’ve tried to play these mental games but I found myself out there on Thursday not the kind of captain I wanted.”

© Wisden CricInfo Ltd

i’m sad to see nasser hussein leave the job as he has beena fine captain for the past 4 years but all in all it sa just and fair + wise decision to hand over the reigns to a top class player. :k:

p.s " i hope nasser will still be picked for the test side, he is playing well, **i’m sure gatting + botham will be hapy he resigned they have been critisizing him for 2 long… ** :mad: :mad2: :mad3:"

Whenever a captain even considers stepping down/handing over due to public pressure or his own insecurities (and voices this publicly), he should move aside immediately. It does no good to have someone with two minds leading you on the field.

For all his attitude etc., Nasser did bring about a lot of improvements to the pom’s unit and gave it his all for his nation’s colors- even though his methods were different. Vaughan’s the perfect succesor and good luck to Nasser as a bat. :k:

It was a wise decision by Nasser - He knew nothing was working out for him - that’s why he quit - As for Nasser, well you’re either a fan of Nasser or not - and I have to say that I actually am! I know sometimes he does moan and he doesn’t generally walk if out but I do respect him - He has a lot of knowledge of the game and whenever England seem to perform bad or whatever - He always takes the blame like he did in the World Cup failure but he never moans about it and goes on about media pressure. But oh well he’s gone now - I don’t think Michael Vaughan would be able to do the job - In One-Dayers, he struggled with bat in NatWest Series against Pakistan, Zimbabwe and South Africa - God knows what’s gonna happen with the England team.

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the man was a bit of a dick. but you have to appreciate how he quit with honour - a lesson for our players.

I liked his guts - loved the leg-side tactics, that required a lot of balls.

Vaughan has never performed well with the bat in ODI’s so his performance in Natwest series can not be blamed on captaincy. Though recently he has been a super star in Test’s for England it will be interesting to see how he handles the captaincy pressure. I dont think his captaincy was bad in Natwest series though England were lucky to win the series agaisnt Pakistan, they were a lot more convincing against South Africa.

Yar sam bhai its good we think the same than I don’t have to do all this typing I can simply quote you and write little bit → Right on :k:

I feel sorry for him. I think since he took over Captaincy mantle since WC 99, he was very impressive and quite rightly brought a slightly aggressive attitude in english cricket mentality coz his predecessors were very defensive (read Alec stewart and micheal atherton). He has had a mied bag as captain, won some good series like against WI, Pak, SL, etc.

All the best to him as a batsman. :k:

Good move my Nasser...Vaughn should do well as a captain, especially in test macthes.

I think thats a good move:k:

Dick and balls in the same post!..:eek:
What are u watching these days samb bhai?

Sorry Mr. I know you don’t like Nasser all that much but he is without a shadow of a doubt the best leader in the England side - even more so than Alec Stewart and look how much experience he has. Or maybe not that much better than Alec but more than Vaughan dammit! Michael is a good Test Match player and possibly one day should become leader but not yet - a captain of the future yes but not at the moment - definitely not! He shouldn’t even be in the One Day side and I think more than affect his performance batting wise I think it could affect the team as a whole with his decision making - There is a huge difference between One Day and Test Cricket and it is much more effort and ability to be captain - which what Vaughan possibly will have in the future but not at the moment - What he really needed to do was better his game (especially in the limitied format) so that when he did take over the Test Side he had enough confidence in himself and the rest of the team had confidence in him. And at the moment I would say that Mark Butcher should be names captain - and possibly Alec for this one final series - But having said he is the best leader Nasser has dropped the selectors right in it - especially during the middle of the series - he should have at least waited until the end of the series - With this change I don’t think England will win this series now - South Africa now have a huge advantage over England and will now probably go on to win I think - I hope my prediction turns out wrong but it seems highly unlikely.

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Sorry Mr. but I have no clue where you are coming from. I didnt say anything about Naseer Hussian. I just replied your post that pointed out how Vaughan failed in the Natwest Series. All I said was it want just the Natwest Series, Vaughan does not have a very good one day record. As far as Naseer's captaincy is concerned, I really dont have an opinion about his captaincy. No doubt he was the most capable captain for England but that doesnt make him a good captain. The one person whose captaincy I admired the most was Imran Khan. I recall him once saying "A captain should lead from the front, I dont expect anything from my players that I am not capable of doing myself". Now Imran did have an added advantage of being an allrounder, and that too a world class one and he was capable of turning matches with his batting or bowling. Ofcourse not every captain can be an allrounder but atleast he should be good at something. Hussain was a mediocre batsman in both forms of the game, Vaughan atleast is a good Test player and success in Test's normally tells that the player is technically correct. I think in a matter of time he will improve his ODI batting as well.

No LahoriMunda I think you misunderstood me - What I meant was that Nasser was the best leader in the side - as in he had a much better knowledge of the game and he was a much better leader in the sense he had captaining quality…I’ll post more about this more next time when I’m online - Sorry, I’ve to go.

p.s. You don’t have to be concern where I’m coming from. :slight_smile:

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I agree he was the most capable leader in the side, but I dont know where you got the diea that I dont like Naseer as I was only talking about Vaughan's ODI form in the Natwest series. Anyway I'll read your next in depth analysis when you come online next time.

P.S ok I wont be concerned where you are coming from if that makes you happy :) btw you should try and quit smoking after every post, its bad for your health. Damn here I go showing my concern again....;)

Can’t Quit Smokin’!

Okay I’ll explain:- What I meant was that a leader needs to have qualities within himself that differenciate him from the rest of the side - he needs to excel in certain departments. Nasser has those qualities - Okay he’s not the most prolific batsmen in the world and he doesn’t have a pretty mediocre average in both formats of the game - Not to mention he didn’t have the best strike rate in One Day Cricket but he has that quality of taking the side out and playing from the front.

In Nasser’s time as a Captain he has received a damn lot of criticism (and we all know why that is!) and he has taken it on the chin - He hasn’t passed the buck and he has tried his level best not to let it affect his game - Now the same way I don’t think that Michael could cop all that flack and continue on (though of course as he’s English I doubt anyone will say a word against him! ) where as Nasser took it all in his stride. Nobody can blame Nasser for leaving - if other Captains had to put up with all the trash that the media and press have dished out to Nasser they would have walked a long time ago but to his credit Nasser has stuck at it for 4 long years and to be honest I think Nasser leaving was inevitable - all he ever got was criticized and I guess he just couldn’t put up with it any longer - As far as ability and excelling in departments goes… well Michael is an extremely talented Batsman - As for Test Cricket, spot on, you are right - and I do think One Day he will probably make a great Captain but not just yet - Mark Butcher certainly has more experience and knowledge of the game and when he possibly retires Michael should take over. Anyway that’s just what I think.

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