What does Islam have to say about it? Its a no no, right?
yes of course it is!
we as human beings have NO right, wotsoever to create another IDENTICAL human being. Anyway, i found an article on a scientific website, that says that scientists have cloned other animals, yet they have never, as yet cloned a human being. Click on the scientific link below:
I’m sure u’ll find it interesting and u’ll realise that there is no greater power than Allah (SWT).
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p.s. i don’t know why they compare primates with humans, its as if they are trying to say that because they cant clone both primates and humans, humans and primates are relatives of each other…
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do you think monkeys and girafs have their own adam and eve?
is there any animal equivalent of adam and eve for each kind of aninmals?
Re: Human Cloning
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What does Islam have to say about it? Its a no no, right?
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assalamo alaikum
there is a good book which can be downloaded from www.1924.org in the e-books section. it discusses the islamic view on cloning, test tube babies, organ transplantation etc
check it out
wa salaam
i dont think theres been enough debate about this in our community.
all aspects of cloning are not harmful, IMO..for instance the synthesis of stem cells which these days they take out of aborted foetuses (is this true, or was that a one-off thing?)
cloning babies is another matter.
sadly, we'll never have the technology to be a meaningful voice in this debate. not before its way past settled anyway.
^^ I haven't found much about cloning in general, usually i read its haram on humans but have no idea what do they say about bacterias and stem cells.
Why is it Haraam? I doubt if it’s Haraam…All human scientific endeavours seek to propagate sciece for the betterment of man…Why would Islam stand against cloning which is for the betterment of man? What kind of rule is being broken? What laws are being perpetrated? None…Our faith never stands against any scientific knowledge being studied and researched upon…In fact, I believe Islam would definitely support and condone cloning as a means for propagating scientific knowledge…
Everything Allah :swt: creates and everything that man unravels, from dissecting frogs, to the study of stars to the study of DNA, they have been done because Allah :swt: gave man a brain…So man could do all that he is capable of…
It is my belief that Islam would definitely support cloning as a means to scientific progress and the well being of man, although I also know, man being man, would seek to exploit this knowledge and abuse it…However, that should not be a deterrent to progress…
Islam is not Christianity…Christians have a reason to fear cloning…It is said they have hairs and blood samples of the blood of Hazrat Eesa :as:…What if they cloned Jesus :as: through those samples? Would that mean that God (Nauzubillah) is made up of DNA? If He is made up of DNA, would that mean that like humans He is susceptible to old age and eventual death (Nauzubillah)? Islam is too practical to believe that…
I believe that Islam would never go against cloning until I am proven wrong through Quran or Sunnah…Till then, I for one would support cloning…
WOA
If clonning is sooooooooooo haram, why is allah abbeting scientists in their research??
Especially, when it endangers his own existence as well ??
Those verses say nothing about clonning, face it.
Again, if clonning is soooooooooo haram,
Why is it allowed by almighty allah to take place in his world??
again, you're assuming that cloning is being used to make human clones, which i agree is a dangerous direction to step into, and even in western countries that debate isnt settled.
but what about..cloning in other ways?
cloning stem cells that are potential cure for diseases like alzheimers and are otherwise extracted from aborted babies (which we cant have).
you use the knife analogy. murdering someone with a knife is haram, but is the knife haram?
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you use the knife analogy. murdering someone with a knife is haram, but is the knife haram?
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cloning as an activity is haram, clonning as a theory is not haram!!
than what good is science theory if you can't put it in practise?? growup man !!....
Btw, dont get too surprise, but there are other books besides koran.
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cloning as an activity is haram, clonning as a theory is not haram!!
than what good is science theory if you can't put it in practise??
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Please dont be so consistent in misinterpreting things. If you bothered to read my complete post in context of the thread and my previous posts, I give a specific example where the 'knife' is used towards good: stem cell research. I am not, therefore, by ANY means saying that cloning is good merely in theory. I assure you that if I was so opposed to cloning I wouldnt be opposing people who are saying the same. Standard debating trick really.
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growup man !!....
Btw, dont get too surprise, but there are other books besides koran.
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I understand that your annoying tendency to attempt sarcasm is a product of your nascent skepticism, your first days as someone who discovers "really? I've been an idiot all my life". I assure you, you might discover this a couple of years on (if God is so merciful), you're being a bigger one right now. As for your wiser than thou attitude, it'll wear off, but please, if you must be an ass in the meanwhile, please dont be so publicly.
when you say, clonning is bad if misused...ofcause it is, its commonsense. what has islam to do with it?
There are no verses in support or against clonning in koran. period. If that is the topic.
I understood your example, and also agree with it. Only thing i disagree was your ref to islam. Should we keep dragging religions into every damn thing. And should you force yourself to ref the pgs of religious text for every thing relevant or irrelevant to that faith.
How many times have you seen hindus ref to vedas and christians to bibles for lil' day to day affairs. Can't you also start thinking and outgrow such obsessions.
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your first days as someone who discovers "really? I've been an idiot all my life". I assure you, you might discover this a couple of years on you're being a bigger one right now. As for your wiser than thou attitude, it'll wear off, but please, if you must be an ass in the meanwhile, please dont be so publicly.
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Ditto words to you.
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when you say, clonning is bad if misused...ofcause it is, its commonsense. what has islam to do with it?
There are no verses in support or against clonning in koran. period. If that is the topic. I understood your example, and also agree with it. Only thing i disagree was your ref to islam. Should we keep dragging religions into every damn thing. And should you force yourself to ref the pgs of religious text for every thing relevant or irrelevant to that faith.
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This is the religion forum. All discussions are in context of religion. The original question was "What does Islam say about it". Thus everyone's references to Islam.
You can talk about the same topic in both general ethical terms and in religious terms. Since we believe our religion encompasses ethics, ethics based arguments are not irrelevant. At the same time, the discussion doesnt necessarily reduce to an ethics based discussion.
If you wish to talk purely in philisophical terms, I suggest you open a thread in the general forum.
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How many times have you seen hindus ref to vedas and christians to bibles for lil' day to day affairs. Can't you also start thinking and outgrow such obsessions.
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I think you will have to wait a good deal (Inshallah) before we start taking inspiration from Hindus, or Christians when it comes to our own religious discussions. Dont like this feature of Muslim debates? Nobody's got a gun to your head (inspite of what you might think)
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Ditto words to you.
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really. come on. you can do better than that.